Why I became embarrassed to be a Celtic fan for 15 seconds.

[Celtics18]

Someone asked if I thought it has been the same in every generation. My answer is no: The internet, cell phones, iPods and reality television are all a big part of what has made this generation different, much more selfish, and in many cases insufferable. Everyone thinks they can be a star -- just like the morons on Jersey Shore. Wow, would I be proud if my kids were like that -- NOT. Bottom line is this is the most entitled, me, me, me, generation that has ever been raised. And sadly, I don't see it getting much better.

Vinnie, I think you're mistaken if you think a majority of today's young people are emulating the kids on Jersey Shore. 

I'm a generation removed from the young people growing up today, but I have met many teens and young adults whose character and personalities have impressed me very much.

[Celtics18]

Someone asked if I thought it has been the same in every generation. My answer is no: The internet, cell phones, iPods and reality television are all a big part of what has made this generation different, much more selfish, and in many cases insufferable. Everyone thinks they can be a star -- just like the morons on Jersey Shore. Wow, would I be proud if my kids were like that -- NOT. Bottom line is this is the most entitled, me, me, me, generation that has ever been raised. And sadly, I don't see it getting much better.

[Rondo9dunx]

Yea of course athiests believe in things, I was basically just talking about believing in a deity when I said that, sorry for not clarifying.


I'm 28, I have 3 young kids, i've had a cell phone and been all over the internet since I was 15. I personally feel like my grandfather would be proud of the person I am. I treat people the way I want to be treated, I go out of my way to help the people I care about every day. That being said I dont think that this generation is the only one thats ever been detached or disrespectful. 60 years ago black people werent allowed to drink from the same water fountains as white people, and they were treated very poorly for no reason what-so-ever. The prejudice and hatred that was built into society by these so called "better" generations of americans is finally being erased, thank god.

[Eja117]

I think the whole "moment of silence" thing as opposed to a "moment of prayer" is just the result of a growing number of athiests who are also becoming more tired of having to hear about god everywhere they go. Its somewhat like (to a lesser degree) the same thing minorities, women, homosexuals etc have gone through.. As time goes by more and more people stand up and say ya know what, i'm tired of this, ackowledge my beliefs too, just like you do everyone else.

It's much like the whole "happy holidays" vs "merry christmas" thing you hear people complain about all the time.

More and more people are starting to believe in nothing, basically

LOL. Let's not get too crazy with this talk.

What is crazy about what I said?

Athiests are becoming more vocal and open about thier beliefs.
Athiests are still for the most part a "minority".

Much like other "minorities" or "religious groups" athiests dont want thier beliefs or way of life being interferred with because of someone elses personal beliefs.

There's nothing crazy or radical about what I said, I didnt insult anyone or place blame on anyone for anything.

 

My point wasn't exactly about atheism becoming more vocal. It was just about the de-religionization of society and religion going from public places to private ones.

[Rondo9dunx]

For a nation of kids that dont care about anything we sure treat eachother a heck of a lot better than previous generations have.



The only thing thats changed is the amount of information we're able to receive. If the internet didnt exist none of us would have any idea that this guy got irritated by some dude at a celtics game. We get information instantly now, from anywhere at any time, anything that is going on is on the internet for the most part. We are just exposed to much more, technically, less ignorant than previous generations because we have a better understanding of whats going on in the world around us.

[Jon]

No excuse for that behavior, but I wouldn't be embarrassed to be a Celtic fan, I'd be embarrassed to be a human being. 

I'm sure you can find jackasses like that in all corners of the country (and world for that matter). 

[Rondo9dunx]

I think the whole "moment of silence" thing as opposed to a "moment of prayer" is just the result of a growing number of athiests who are also becoming more tired of having to hear about god everywhere they go. Its somewhat like (to a lesser degree) the same thing minorities, women, homosexuals etc have gone through.. As time goes by more and more people stand up and say ya know what, i'm tired of this, ackowledge my beliefs too, just like you do everyone else.

It's much like the whole "happy holidays" vs "merry christmas" thing you hear people complain about all the time.

More and more people are starting to believe in nothing, basically

LOL. Let's not get too crazy with this talk.

What is crazy about what I said?

Athiests are becoming more vocal and open about thier beliefs.
Athiests are still for the most part a "minority".

Much like other "minorities" or "religious groups" athiests dont want thier beliefs or way of life being interferred with because of someone elses personal beliefs.

There's nothing crazy or radical about what I said, I didnt insult anyone or place blame on anyone for anything.

 

My point wasn't exactly about atheism becoming more vocal. It was just about the de-religionization of society and religion going from public places to private ones.

Personally I don't have any problem with any of the "In God We Trust" type of things because they dont affect my day to day life in the least bit, so I tolerate it. I dont think people with religious beliefs should be forced to keep it behind closed doors at all times either. Everyone, on both sides, just need to be more tolerant of eachother.

[butterbeanlove]

Not sure why anyone is surprised. This is what our society has become. No one respects anyone or anything. Everyone is too caught up in their world, their drama, their music, their space, etc. It's all about me. Look at me on the Internet, listen to me talk loud on my cellphone so everyone knows how important I am, and so on. I am probably one of the older guys on the board, and it pains me when things like this happen. However, I have learned to let it roll off my back. If I didn't, I would be in an insane asylum.

In my experience, it's mostly a Boston/North East societal thing.  I never even noticed this phenomena until I visited North Carolina for the first time a few years ago; I just took for granted that was the way people are and had always been.  I was visiting a friend down there who attends Duke U.  He was a co-worker of min a few years back in the north shore, originally from Chicago, and would gripe often about how self-centered and unfriendly Boston people were.  I agreed with him to an extent, but hadn't been outside the area enough to really understand it like he did.  Then I went to NC, and met some of his friends.  I was seriously blown away by how many questions they would ask me during conversation and how genuinely interested they were to converse with me.  Not talk at me, but converse with me.  It was about a year later than I spent a few months living in Guatemala and found the same thing true about many other people I met from Europe, Australia, and other parts of the US.  (I was too interested to listen to people from Central American talk about their experiences to allow myself to actually share anything.)

I do think it's more prevalent in Boston/North East than elsewhere, but I do agree with vinnie that it is a product of "Generation Me" as well.  Look at facebook - what was originally a "social network" which was a great means of communication is now dominated by this "news feed" of people "sharing" what they are doing with a whole bunch of people who largely don't give a crap.

Whenever I travel elsewhere in the country it always blows me away how much more friendly and open people are than in our little corner of the world. With a few exceptions. People in Santa Fe are obnoxious. San Fran... similar to Boston.

Charleston, Twin Cities, Dallas-Fort Worth, San Antonio, San Diego: you're good to go.

[Rondo9dunx]

Not sure why anyone is surprised. This is what our society has become. No one respects anyone or anything. Everyone is too caught up in their world, their drama, their music, their space, etc. It's all about me. Look at me on the Internet, listen to me talk loud on my cellphone so everyone knows how important I am, and so on. I am probably one of the older guys on the board, and it pains me when things like this happen. However, I have learned to let it roll off my back. If I didn't, I would be in an insane asylum.

In my experience, it's mostly a Boston/North East societal thing.  I never even noticed this phenomena until I visited North Carolina for the first time a few years ago; I just took for granted that was the way people are and had always been.  I was visiting a friend down there who attends Duke U.  He was a co-worker of min a few years back in the north shore, originally from Chicago, and would gripe often about how self-centered and unfriendly Boston people were.  I agreed with him to an extent, but hadn't been outside the area enough to really understand it like he did.  Then I went to NC, and met some of his friends.  I was seriously blown away by how many questions they would ask me during conversation and how genuinely interested they were to converse with me.  Not talk at me, but converse with me.  It was about a year later than I spent a few months living in Guatemala and found the same thing true about many other people I met from Europe, Australia, and other parts of the US.  (I was too interested to listen to people from Central American talk about their experiences to allow myself to actually share anything.)

I do think it's more prevalent in Boston/North East than elsewhere, but I do agree with vinnie that it is a product of "Generation Me" as well.  Look at facebook - what was originally a "social network" which was a great means of communication is now dominated by this "news feed" of people "sharing" what they are doing with a whole bunch of people who largely don't give a crap.

Whenever I travel elsewhere in the country it always blows me away how much more friendly and open people are than in our little corner of the world. With a few exceptions. People in Santa Fe are obnoxious. San Fran... similar to Boston.

Charleston, Twin Cities, Dallas-Fort Worth, San Antonio, San Diego: you're good to go.

I've been to a quite a few far away cities/states as well. I've found people in the south to be very cordial. Tennessee is a great place. I was making a lay-over in atlanta(of course) one time and I lost a piece of luggage that had all of my 8month olds stuff in it, clothers, medicine, diapers, forumla etc etc.

I asked dozens of people of different races, ages etc. Regardless if it was some 17y/o kid who was kinda thugged out, or some older guy in a suit, everyone was very pleasant and helpful in trying to find my bag. Two young kids, one white, one black ended up finding my bag somewhere else in the airport and tracked me down to return it to me.

I couldn't believe how nice everyone was, from the other travelers, maintenence workers to the flight attendants and security staff, everyone I met in atlanta was awesome.

Also living in Boston i've lost my wallet 3 times, each time with money and bank cards in it. Every single time I lost it it showed up in my mailbox 3-4 days later. The money was always there!

I live in southern california now. I dont think people are any nicer here than they are in Boston. Down in San Diego, people are a bit more pleasant tho, up north as well.

I fell asleep in a chicago airport one time during a blizzard and I woke up with a blanket on me lol. That was kinda wierd, but nice of someone.

[timpiker]

You have got to be kidding.  Expecting silence for 60 seconds is just plain ridiculous.  And waiting 60 seconds is unwarranted as well. 

[Donoghus]

I have no problems with cheering during the national anthem (heck, Blackhawk fans have made a tradition of it). 

Cheering during a moment of silence is pretty classless, IMO.  If you're honoring the dead, show some respect.  That being said, I'm not surprised it happened.  There are all sorts of idiots walking this earth.

[nickagneta]

TP Nick, I was there too and was mortified.  But it only served to confirm what I already knew, people are idiots no matter how awesome their basketball team is 

TP Reggie...well said.

[DRJ1]

I wasn't there. But I have one question. Are you sure that the FACT that it was a "moment of silence" was CLEAR to everyone there? Very often, it's hard to understand the announcers in these events, what with the echo, the ambient noise and the sheer size of the place. So could some people have not HEARD the announcement? And what about the ones that walked in late, or came back from the bathrooms, or were distracted, etc.?

Idk... it's just that things are rarely black-and-white when it comes to human nature.

[Celtics4ever]

Getting 20K+ people to comply with anything has to be hard.

[thirstyboots18]

Sounding really old, she said "Age is not excuse for bad behavior".  I have know plenty of seniors who had no sense of courtesy, too.  That being said, I learned a long time ago not to let others' behavior embarrass me.  If you are behaving correctly, they are the ones who should be embarrassed.