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Re: Why I became embarrassed to be a Celtic fan for 15 seconds.
« Reply #105 on: January 22, 2011, 11:10:14 PM »

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Look at the blaxploitation movies of the 60s and 70s. You would never see that kind of blatant racism on tv today...
I don't know. Quinton Tarrantino used the n word like 158 times in Pulp Fiction.....it kinda ticked off Spike Lee
It only ticked him off because Tarantino is a better director and he's also white. Spike just wanted to hear his name in the news.

I've seen that movie 3 times and I had no idea the N word was used that much in it.... I just remember Sam Jackson was the MAN!!!! lol
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Re: Why I became embarrassed to be a Celtic fan for 15 seconds.
« Reply #106 on: January 23, 2011, 02:45:29 AM »

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It's 60 seconds of your life that you have to be quiet for.  Is that really too much to ask for?   ???

Once a year the country recognizes an individual who played a pretty significant role in developing this nation.  Since its a federal holiday, many venues ask for a moment of silence in length of one minute.  That's really not asking too much.  Its a respect thing.  

If you can't take a whole minute of your life to be respecful, you're just being ignorant & self-centered, IMO.  Suck it up for 60 seconds.  

Please, tell me, what does that 60 seconds achieve, other than giving people wanting 60 seconds of silence a reason to complain if not everyone agrees? They named a holiday after him, they run school programs and history books around the holiday, it's on TV non-stop for a week leading up to it. Those 60 seconds are for NBA marketing, it's the same as a business donating to a charity for a tax-writeoff. Jesus doesn't get 60 seconds of silence on Xmas day. It's marketing.

No offense, but being Canadian, which I'm sure nobody really cares about, you Yanks hand out moments of silence and anthems like they're Celtics retirement banners.
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Re: Why I became embarrassed to be a Celtic fan for 15 seconds.
« Reply #107 on: January 23, 2011, 04:37:36 AM »

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It's 60 seconds of your life that you have to be quiet for.  Is that really too much to ask for?   ???

Once a year the country recognizes an individual who played a pretty significant role in developing this nation.  Since its a federal holiday, many venues ask for a moment of silence in length of one minute.  That's really not asking too much.  Its a respect thing.  

If you can't take a whole minute of your life to be respecful, you're just being ignorant & self-centered, IMO.  Suck it up for 60 seconds.  

Please, tell me, what does that 60 seconds achieve, other than giving people wanting 60 seconds of silence a reason to complain if not everyone agrees? They named a holiday after him, they run school programs and history books around the holiday, it's on TV non-stop for a week leading up to it. Those 60 seconds are for NBA marketing, it's the same as a business donating to a charity for a tax-writeoff. Jesus doesn't get 60 seconds of silence on Xmas day. It's marketing.

No offense, but being Canadian, which I'm sure nobody really cares about, you Yanks hand out moments of silence and anthems like they're Celtics retirement banners.
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Re: Why I became embarrassed to be a Celtic fan for 15 seconds.
« Reply #108 on: January 23, 2011, 07:32:41 AM »

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And stop all this crap about how "people are becoming worse"

The world we live in is 1000 times more tolerant than it was 50-60 years ago.

That's the stupidest thing i've ever heard.

Bunch of crabby old guys that think thier generation was the best, give me a break! I mean jeez some of the stuff that comes out your you old people's mouths is ridiculous.

I guarantee you take a room full of 60-70 year old guys and a room full of 15-25 year old kids and the old guys are going to be way more racist and ignorant than the kids...
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Re: Why I became embarrassed to be a Celtic fan for 15 seconds.
« Reply #109 on: January 23, 2011, 07:47:29 AM »

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It's 60 seconds of your life that you have to be quiet for.  Is that really too much to ask for?   ???

Once a year the country recognizes an individual who played a pretty significant role in developing this nation.  Since its a federal holiday, many venues ask for a moment of silence in length of one minute.  That's really not asking too much.  Its a respect thing.  

If you can't take a whole minute of your life to be respecful, you're just being ignorant & self-centered, IMO.  Suck it up for 60 seconds.  

Please, tell me, what does that 60 seconds achieve, other than giving people wanting 60 seconds of silence a reason to complain if not everyone agrees? They named a holiday after him, they run school programs and history books around the holiday, it's on TV non-stop for a week leading up to it. Those 60 seconds are for NBA marketing, it's the same as a business donating to a charity for a tax-writeoff. Jesus doesn't get 60 seconds of silence on Xmas day. It's marketing.

No offense, but being Canadian, which I'm sure nobody really cares about, you Yanks hand out moments of silence and anthems like they're Celtics retirement banners.

I agree with this post but I also agree with the OP and I would have felt identical to him.  MLK owns the minute whether it should be there or not.  (I'll bet MLK would say it's not the right time and place for a minute of silence).  1.  they could honor him with a shorter moment of silence.  2.  they could have no games that day but  do a t.v. special with players discussing their feelings about MLK.if they want.  If they're going to have games, I would have places in the stadium (inside not courtside) where people can go and read a poster and look at photos..establish his presence and allow for voluntary reflection....but leave out the moment of silence.  I would guess players like having it though, and that's where I switch over and think okay, I'll follow, this is how it is and I'm going to shut up for the whole minute and actually honor the person.

 The NBA should stick to basketball and curb the marketing schemes and, while I have no problem if they work towards saving the world (the organization and players do a lot of great things and I hope that continues), stop yapping about it every chance they get...It ends up commercialized and feels false.  What Stern has no clue about it is the number of people, potential fans, who are turned off by his marketing approach.  

I have no real problem with a minute of silence and think people, even big crowds should be able to get all the way through one.  But I would choose to honor MLK in other ways if I were pulling the strings.....

That doesn't mean I think less of MLK.  What a mammoth figure for the U.S. to be proud of.....



Re: Why I became embarrassed to be a Celtic fan for 15 seconds.
« Reply #110 on: January 23, 2011, 10:40:54 AM »

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It's 60 seconds of your life that you have to be quiet for.  Is that really too much to ask for?   ???

Once a year the country recognizes an individual who played a pretty significant role in developing this nation.  Since its a federal holiday, many venues ask for a moment of silence in length of one minute.  That's really not asking too much.  Its a respect thing.  

If you can't take a whole minute of your life to be respecful, you're just being ignorant & self-centered, IMO.  Suck it up for 60 seconds.  

Please, tell me, what does that 60 seconds achieve, other than giving people wanting 60 seconds of silence a reason to complain if not everyone agrees? They named a holiday after him, they run school programs and history books around the holiday, it's on TV non-stop for a week leading up to it. Those 60 seconds are for NBA marketing, it's the same as a business donating to a charity for a tax-writeoff. Jesus doesn't get 60 seconds of silence on Xmas day. It's marketing.

No offense, but being Canadian, which I'm sure nobody really cares about, you Yanks hand out moments of silence and anthems like they're Celtics retirement banners.

It not about acheiving anything, its simply about respect.  Its simple enough.


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Re: Why I became embarrassed to be a Celtic fan for 15 seconds.
« Reply #111 on: January 23, 2011, 10:55:17 AM »

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It's 60 seconds of your life that you have to be quiet for.  Is that really too much to ask for?   ???

Once a year the country recognizes an individual who played a pretty significant role in developing this nation.  Since its a federal holiday, many venues ask for a moment of silence in length of one minute.  That's really not asking too much.  Its a respect thing.  

If you can't take a whole minute of your life to be respecful, you're just being ignorant & self-centered, IMO.  Suck it up for 60 seconds.  

Please, tell me, what does that 60 seconds achieve, other than giving people wanting 60 seconds of silence a reason to complain if not everyone agrees? They named a holiday after him, they run school programs and history books around the holiday, it's on TV non-stop for a week leading up to it. Those 60 seconds are for NBA marketing, it's the same as a business donating to a charity for a tax-writeoff. Jesus doesn't get 60 seconds of silence on Xmas day. It's marketing.

No offense, but being Canadian, which I'm sure nobody really cares about, you Yanks hand out moments of silence and anthems like they're Celtics retirement banners.

  Just out of curiosity, but I don't get to too many Celts games. A question for some of the season ticket holders out there, but how many other individuals that died before 1999 do they have moments of silence for? Is this a regular occurrence?

Re: Why I became embarrassed to be a Celtic fan for 15 seconds.
« Reply #112 on: January 23, 2011, 12:41:32 PM »

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And stop all this crap about how "people are becoming worse"

The world we live in is 1000 times more tolerant than it was 50-60 years ago.

That's the stupidest thing i've ever heard.

Bunch of crabby old guys that think thier generation was the best, give me a break! I mean jeez some of the stuff that comes out your you old people's mouths is ridiculous.

I guarantee you take a room full of 60-70 year old guys and a room full of 15-25 year old kids and the old guys are going to be way more racist and ignorant than the kids...


It is not about "tolerance", it is the lack of respect and caring about anyone or anything else but yourself. That is what I see today. I have never seen a more self-entitled, self-absorbed, narcissistic generation.

Re: Why I became embarrassed to be a Celtic fan for 15 seconds.
« Reply #113 on: January 23, 2011, 12:55:16 PM »

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For a nation of kids that dont care about anything we sure treat eachother a heck of a lot better than previous generations have.



The only thing thats changed is the amount of information we're able to receive. If the internet didnt exist none of us would have any idea that this guy got irritated by some dude at a celtics game. We get information instantly now, from anywhere at any time, anything that is going on is on the internet for the most part. We are just exposed to much more, technically, less ignorant than previous generations because we have a better understanding of whats going on in the world around us.

This quote bears repeating.
I get so tired of hearing how previous generations were better, i.e., "the greatest generation", tired of hearing old people brag about that.

Because it's just not true. It was their generation that was racist in the 50's and 60's and it was their parents parents generation that actually bought slaves.
It is the current generation and the preceding one that made all the advances in technology and everything else. It was this young generation that has made the United States a more civilized and non-brutal country, not to mention numerous medical discoveries. The new communication technologies we have now are fun and new and yes, young people are going to get a kick out of it all, but that will all settle down.

The fact that you think you are superior to today's young people shows your lack of curiousity and objective thought.

Re: Why I became embarrassed to be a Celtic fan for 15 seconds.
« Reply #114 on: January 23, 2011, 12:56:57 PM »

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I am not referring to anyone here in particular, just the 'greatest generation' as a whole.

Re: Why I became embarrassed to be a Celtic fan for 15 seconds.
« Reply #115 on: January 23, 2011, 01:10:22 PM »

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For a nation of kids that dont care about anything we sure treat eachother a heck of a lot better than previous generations have.



The only thing thats changed is the amount of information we're able to receive. If the internet didnt exist none of us would have any idea that this guy got irritated by some dude at a celtics game. We get information instantly now, from anywhere at any time, anything that is going on is on the internet for the most part. We are just exposed to much more, technically, less ignorant than previous generations because we have a better understanding of whats going on in the world around us.

This quote bears repeating.
I get so tired of hearing how previous generations were better, i.e., "the greatest generation", tired of hearing old people brag about that.

Because it's just not true. It was their generation that was racist in the 50's and 60's and it was their parents parents generation that actually bought slaves.
It is the current generation and the preceding one that made all the advances in technology and everything else. It was this young generation that has made the United States a more civilized and non-brutal country, not to mention numerous medical discoveries. The new communication technologies we have now are fun and new and yes, young people are going to get a kick out of it all, but that will all settle down.

The fact that you think you are superior to today's young people shows your lack of curiousity and objective thought.
Technically speaking LBJ, JFK, MLK and all the members of Congress that passed major civil rights legislation were greatest generationers. Not sure why baby boomers always act like it was them that did that stuff when it wasn't.

It was also that generation that cheered Jesse Owens and started the Tuskeege Airmen, and hired Jackie Robinson. 

John Wooden was from that generation and so was Eleanor Roosevelt.

Rather it has been the baby boomers that always pretend like they changed the world yadda yadda but stand in the way of things like gay rights.

I'll take the greatest generation over the baby boomers any day of the week and then some. Sorry. That's just how I feel

Re: Why I became embarrassed to be a Celtic fan for 15 seconds.
« Reply #116 on: January 23, 2011, 01:10:57 PM »

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And stop all this crap about how "people are becoming worse"

The world we live in is 1000 times more tolerant than it was 50-60 years ago.

That's the stupidest thing i've ever heard.

Bunch of crabby old guys that think thier generation was the best, give me a break! I mean jeez some of the stuff that comes out your you old people's mouths is ridiculous.

I guarantee you take a room full of 60-70 year old guys and a room full of 15-25 year old kids and the old guys are going to be way more racist and ignorant than the kids...


It is not about "tolerance", it is the lack of respect and caring about anyone or anything else but yourself. That is what I see today. I have never seen a more self-entitled, self-absorbed, narcissistic generation.

It's a shame that you feel that way.  If you gave some young people a chance, you might be pleasantly surprised.

Here's hoping it's not too late for you to change your mind.
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Re: Why I became embarrassed to be a Celtic fan for 15 seconds.
« Reply #117 on: January 23, 2011, 01:20:35 PM »

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Another note: It is our communications technology that has probably made or will make the biggest contribution to the civilization of the world. The world is much less brutal at this time than in any time in recorded history.

And eja117, yes there was legislation for civil rights by some in the 'greatest generation', but legislation would have never been needed had racism not been prevelant in this country.

Our young people of this generation are more civilized and educated than any previous one.

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« Reply #118 on: January 23, 2011, 01:27:49 PM »

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For a nation of kids that dont care about anything we sure treat eachother a heck of a lot better than previous generations have.



The only thing thats changed is the amount of information we're able to receive. If the internet didnt exist none of us would have any idea that this guy got irritated by some dude at a celtics game. We get information instantly now, from anywhere at any time, anything that is going on is on the internet for the most part. We are just exposed to much more, technically, less ignorant than previous generations because we have a better understanding of whats going on in the world around us.

This quote bears repeating.
I get so tired of hearing how previous generations were better, i.e., "the greatest generation", tired of hearing old people brag about that.

Because it's just not true. It was their generation that was racist in the 50's and 60's and it was their parents parents generation that actually bought slaves.
It is the current generation and the preceding one that made all the advances in technology and everything else. It was this young generation that has made the United States a more civilized and non-brutal country, not to mention numerous medical discoveries. The new communication technologies we have now are fun and new and yes, young people are going to get a kick out of it all, but that will all settle down.

The fact that you think you are superior to today's young people shows your lack of curiousity and objective thought.

  People actually bought slaves in the 1930s? Really?

Re: Why I became embarrassed to be a Celtic fan for 15 seconds.
« Reply #119 on: January 23, 2011, 01:45:27 PM »

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The Point I was trying to make minus the date gafs.