Bobcats shopping Wallace?

[Chris]

It's probably counterproductive to their long term plans, but Stephen Jackson and/or Gerald Wallace would really compliment the Knicks well.

They just went through salary cap hell with a bad team why would they go for that again?

I think you could make an argument that Gerald Wallace would compliment Amare Stoudemire better than Carmelo.

I love the idea of a Jackson/Wallace trade for NY.  They would both fit in really well, and might make that team a borderline contender (assuming Amare and Felton continue to play so well).  

Unfortunately, it will never happen, since they have their hearts set on Melo, and then Paul, and Jackson/Wallace would block both of them, unless Paul stayed an extra season in NO, rather than opting out.

[StartOrien]

Davis + 2011 1st round draft pick + cash for Wallace?  I'd love it if they could pull that off.

I'd love it if it was legal in the trade machine.

No one is giving us a borderline all star for Glen Davis.

Perhaps MJ should read Celticsblog more often to find the "real value" of Davis 

Corrected that for you

[kozlodoev]

Davis + 2011 1st round draft pick + cash for Wallace?  I'd love it if they could pull that off.

I'd love it if it was legal in the trade machine.

No one is giving us a borderline all star for Glen Davis.

We need Glen Davis more than we need Gerald Wallace.

For those who missed it, the Bobcats were given a medical instruction not to play Wallace at PF because of the series of concussions he got a couple of seasons ago.

[PosImpos]

Add Charlotte to the list of third team candidates for the inevitable Melo trade.

They don't have any of the type of pieces that the Nuggets want.

They might get involved in a three team trade, but that's it.

I'm sure CHA would offer both Jax and Wallace for Melo.  The numbers work.  DEN would turn it down if it didn't include a pick, but they'd surely have to think about it.

Or, a Jackson/Wallace/Diaw for Melo/Billups deal works as well...not that Melo would take that deal, either...or anything going to Charlotte.

But really, it's not that CHA doesn't have what Denver wants, it's that they don't have what Melo wants.

They wouldn't have to think about it given Stephen Jackson's contract and production. He has basically negative trade value at this point.

I'm not so sure.  Jackson only makes around $8.5 million this year.  Not bad for a #2 option (which would suit him best).

Of both of these guys go to Orlando for either Rashard Lewis or the expiring deal of Vince Carter (plus random pieces on both sides), that would make Orlando quite something...

He makes around $9 million next year, and he's such an inefficient chucker.....

Compare that to a prospect like Favors? I just don't see how that offer is attractive at all. Plus Wallace is a good contract for his production, but he's not the type who will take them to another level.

He scores 17.7 points a game on .423% from the field and .384% from 3.  For $9 million a year, that's not so bad, given the inefficiency of some chuckers out there (Kobe scores on .448% shooting and .345% on 3's - not saying Kobe is a chucker, but Jackson's numbers aren't so bad).

It's the length of Jax's contract that provides the hindrance.  Doesn't it have a couple years left?

[Fafnir]

He has another year after this one I believe, it was a three year extension right? Or it could be two....

His TS% is a .540 which isn't great, worse than Kobe's. What really kills Jackson is how much he turns it over when he is handling the ball. What's worse is if he is not handling the ball he just becomes an inefficient shooter.

[PosImpos]

He has another year after this one I believe, it was a three year extension right? Or it could be two....

His TS% is a .540 which isn't great, worse than Kobe's. What really kills Jackson is how much he turns it over when he is handling the ball. What's worse is if he is not handling the ball he just becomes an inefficient shooter.

No, he's not as good as Kobe, but I think it's unfair to call him an inefficient chucker.  He's not John Salmons or Joe Johnson (ughhhh).  His PER is still slightly above league average (15.5).  That said, he's clearly having a substandard year (for him) so far, and he's on the wrong side of 30. 

Nevertheless, he could certainly help a team win now, and his contract is far from the worst in the league (nowhere close to JJ or Rashard or Gilbert).

[Fafnir]

He has another year after this one I believe, it was a three year extension right? Or it could be two....

His TS% is a .540 which isn't great, worse than Kobe's. What really kills Jackson is how much he turns it over when he is handling the ball. What's worse is if he is not handling the ball he just becomes an inefficient shooter.

No, he's not as good as Kobe, but I think it's unfair to call him an inefficient chucker.  He's not John Salmons or Joe Johnson (ughhhh).  His PER is still slightly above league average (15.5).  That said, he's clearly having a substandard year (for him) so far, and he's on the wrong side of 30. 

Nevertheless, he could certainly help a team win now, and his contract is far from the worst in the league (nowhere close to JJ or Rashard or Gilbert).

Jackson is still pretty far up there with his Usage, and he's definitely an inefficient shooter and player in general.

He can help a team win, but his contract, attitude, and decision making make it tough to find a fit for him. I don't see him happy being a third or fourth option.

[PosImpos]

He has another year after this one I believe, it was a three year extension right? Or it could be two....

His TS% is a .540 which isn't great, worse than Kobe's. What really kills Jackson is how much he turns it over when he is handling the ball. What's worse is if he is not handling the ball he just becomes an inefficient shooter.

No, he's not as good as Kobe, but I think it's unfair to call him an inefficient chucker.  He's not John Salmons or Joe Johnson (ughhhh).  His PER is still slightly above league average (15.5).  That said, he's clearly having a substandard year (for him) so far, and he's on the wrong side of 30.  

Nevertheless, he could certainly help a team win now, and his contract is far from the worst in the league (nowhere close to JJ or Rashard or Gilbert).

Jackson is still pretty far up there with his Usage, and he's definitely an inefficient shooter and player in general.

He can help a team win, but his contract, attitude, and decision making make it tough to find a fit for him. I don't see him happy being a third or fourth option.

Wasn't he a third or fourth option in San Antonio when they won it all?  I have a feeling he'd be much more amenable to it if he were on a team that actually has a chance of winning.  He's had character issues, especially in the last few years, but he's also played for poorly managed teams with wacky / crotchety old coaches.

[Who]

2009/10 -- 1518 points on 1285 FGA, 397 FTA and 233 TOs
2010/11 -- 424 points on 357 FGA, 81 FTA and 79 TOs

An average of about 0.88 points per possession which is well below average.

Stephen Jackson is a solid offensive player because of his wide range of skills and ability to create matchup problems as a big two guard ... but his lack of efficiency limits him as a go-to scorer on a top team.

Ideally, a third or a fourth scoring option. He'd function well in that role.

[Who]

2009/10 -- 1518 points on 1285 FGA, 397 FTA and 233 TOs
2010/11 -- 424 points on 357 FGA, 81 FTA and 79 TOs

An average of about 0.88 points per possession which is well below average.

Stephen Jackson is a solid offensive player because of his range of skills and ability to create matchup problems as a big two guard ... but his lack of efficiency limits him as a go-to scorer on a top team.

Ideally, a third or a fourth scoring option. He'd function well in that role.

A team that should make a run at Stephen Jackson is the Orlando Magic.

He'd be a nice get for Orlando if they could get him cheap.

[minijericho29]

Stephen Jackson is starting to show his age and is on his way downhill.

Are you serious?? He's averaging 18-4-4 this year.

[Who]

Stephen Jackson is starting to show his age and is on his way downhill.

Are you serious?? He's averaging 18-4-4 this year.

His defense has dropped off badly to start the season. It looks like his athleticism is starting to fade.

[Chris]

Stephen Jackson is starting to show his age and is on his way downhill.

Are you serious?? He's averaging 18-4-4 this year.

His defense has dropped off badly to start the season. It looks like his athleticism is starting to fade.

I think it has more to do with his motivation fading.  While his athleticism may not be what it once was, I think this whole team has begun to quit with Jackson leading the charge.  I think he would be rejuvenated a bit with a change in scenery.

[StartOrien]

FYI, Jackson has 2 more years left on his contract. He'll be making 10.2 in 2012/2013

[PosImpos]

2009/10 -- 1518 points on 1285 FGA, 397 FTA and 233 TOs
2010/11 -- 424 points on 357 FGA, 81 FTA and 79 TOs

An average of about 0.88 points per possession which is well below average.

Stephen Jackson is a solid offensive player because of his range of skills and ability to create matchup problems as a big two guard ... but his lack of efficiency limits him as a go-to scorer on a top team.

Ideally, a third or a fourth scoring option. He'd function well in that role.

A team that should make a run at Stephen Jackson is the Orlando Magic.

He'd be a nice get for Orlando if they could get him cheap.

That's interesting.  He'd make a lot of sense for them.  They might not even have to trade Vince to get him.