Sign me up for the Semih Sucks Bandwagon

[Who]

Matchups permitting, I'd like to see Erden benched for a 2-3 games in favour of Harangody.

Erden seems to be struggling at the minute and not giving a good account of himself. Give him a short break and help him regain his form.

The team would lose some defense but they'd gain a rebounder and more of an offensive threat.

[RJ87]

There won't be many people on that bandwagon. He is playing with a bad shoulder. He is fundamentally sound. He boxes out, can finish with either hand and can pass. And he runs the floor.  As he gains more experience he will become more comfortable with the defensive rotations.  He has good hands and he rebounds reasonably well.  If they'd had him vs LA in game 7 I think he would have grabbed more boards than Rasheed.  He goes up against Shaq in every practice.  That alone will improve him.   People were quick to rip Al Jefferson back in the day.  He became a walking
double double. Show a little patience.  KG has been working with him on his pick and roll defense.  KG doesn't waste his
time on humpties.

/co sign

also co-sign

triple co-sign.
Semih gets props for gutting it out with the bum shoulder with J.O. being out (what's up with him btw??). I see the potential there for him to be able to contribute backup minutes on this team, I don't see him as another Patrick O'Bryant.

[housecall]

Matchups permitting, I'd like to see Erden benched for a 2-3 games in favour of Harangody.

Erden seems to be struggling at the minute and not giving a good account of himself. Give him a short break and help him regain his form.

The team would lose some defense but they'd gain a rebounder and more of an offensive threat.

I buy that especially when the C's are playing teams that require less defense for example a team like the Suns where less defense inside is required but they can be a three pt threat at any given time.We could use Harangody's youth to run up/down to defend the three and in return shoot the three with a respectable percentage hopefully...key word hopefully.   

[LooseCannon]

We could use Harangody's youth to run up/down to defend the three and in return shoot the three with a respectable percentage hopefully...key word hopefully.   

Harangody may be a hark-working rookie, but he's unathletic and slow.  I doubt any scheme that involves him doing a lot of running.

Erden and Harangody play different positions.  If you wanted to rest Erden and hold him out of a game in favor of Harangody, you would have to do it against a team where you don't mind playing Glen Davis and the Skillz Train side by side.

[Meadowlark_Scal]

Erden had some good moments last night, a few nice dunks, which means he was running the floor, and in good position, good hands. If you think he didn't do a good job covering bargani, well....who did?  No one has shown they can shut him down. You comparte Erden to who....seasoned centers...? Well, compare him to anyone....in their rookie year..! He is doing okay. Not only do some people think he should be as good as shaq right off, they think we can just go get a better center anytime....

[Fafnir]

We could use Harangody's youth to run up/down to defend the three and in return shoot the three with a respectable percentage hopefully...key word hopefully.   

Harangody may be a hark-working rookie, but he's unathletic and slow.  I doubt any scheme that involves him doing a lot of running.

Erden and Harangody play different positions.  If you wanted to rest Erden and hold him out of a game in favor of Harangody, you would have to do it against a team where you don't mind playing Glen Davis and the Skillz Train side by side.

Erden isn't exactly athletic and quick. BBD can play C and Gody can handle the PF position.

[Rondo_is_better]

There won't be many people on that bandwagon. He is playing with a bad shoulder. He is fundamentally sound. He boxes out, can finish with either hand and can pass. And he runs the floor.  As he gains more experience he will become more comfortable with the defensive rotations.  He has good hands and he rebounds reasonably well.  If they'd had him vs LA in game 7 I think he would have grabbed more boards than Rasheed.  He goes up against Shaq in every practice.  That alone will improve him.   People were quick to rip Al Jefferson back in the day.  He became a walking
double double. Show a little patience.  KG has been working with him on his pick and roll defense.  KG doesn't waste his
time on humpties.

/co sign

also co-sign

triple co-sign.
Semih gets props for gutting it out with the bum shoulder with J.O. being out (what's up with him btw??). I see the potential there for him to be able to contribute backup minutes on this team, I don't see him as another Patrick O'Bryant.

Though KG did waste his time with Patrick O'Bryant.

[xmuscularghandix]

There won't be many people on that bandwagon. He is playing with a bad shoulder. He is fundamentally sound. He boxes out, can finish with either hand and can pass. And he runs the floor.  As he gains more experience he will become more comfortable with the defensive rotations.  He has good hands and he rebounds reasonably well.  If they'd had him vs LA in game 7 I think he would have grabbed more boards than Rasheed.  He goes up against Shaq in every practice.  That alone will improve him.   People were quick to rip Al Jefferson back in the day.  He became a walking
double double. Show a little patience.  KG has been working with him on his pick and roll defense.  KG doesn't waste his
time on humpties.

/co sign

also co-sign

triple co-sign.
Semih gets props for gutting it out with the bum shoulder with J.O. being out (what's up with him btw??). I see the potential there for him to be able to contribute backup minutes on this team, I don't see him as another Patrick O'Bryant.

Quadruple Co-Sign.

[Rondo9dunx]

Co-Sign to the 5th power.

1: Bad Shoulder
2: Rookie
3: From Turkey, does not speak english.
4: On a team with 6-7 potential HoFers.
5: Again, from Turkey.


Given those 5 things that certainly need to be taken into consideration I dont see how you can say this guy sucks.

[LooseCannon]

We could use Harangody's youth to run up/down to defend the three and in return shoot the three with a respectable percentage hopefully...key word hopefully.   

Harangody may be a hark-working rookie, but he's unathletic and slow.  I doubt any scheme that involves him doing a lot of running.

Erden and Harangody play different positions.  If you wanted to rest Erden and hold him out of a game in favor of Harangody, you would have to do it against a team where you don't mind playing Glen Davis and the Skillz Train side by side.

Erden isn't exactly athletic and quick. BBD can play C and Gody can handle the PF position.

Erden's going to play as long as a Erden/BBD frontcourt combo provides better defense than BBD/Harangody.

Erden is sufficiently athletic and mobile that some analysts thought he had a chance of developing into someone who can play some minutes at power forward.  He has been described as running the floor well and suitable for an up-tempo offense that some people want to see Rondo run.

What I've seen of him suggests that that assessment isn't horribly wrong.

Erden is suspected of having a torn labrum.  I don't think that's been confirmed, but that's the general suspicion out there.  That's an injury that doesn't go away and it will have to be repaired surgically at some point.  Resting him won't heal it or make it hurt less. 

[guava_wrench]

We could use Harangody's youth to run up/down to defend the three and in return shoot the three with a respectable percentage hopefully...key word hopefully.   

Harangody may be a hark-working rookie, but he's unathletic and slow.  I doubt any scheme that involves him doing a lot of running.

Erden and Harangody play different positions.  If you wanted to rest Erden and hold him out of a game in favor of Harangody, you would have to do it against a team where you don't mind playing Glen Davis and the Skillz Train side by side.

Erden isn't exactly athletic and quick. BBD can play C and Gody can handle the PF position.

He seems to me to be on the quick end of the spectrum for players his height.

[Meadowlark_Scal]

BBD cannot guard players who don't post up. Taller forwards like nowitski, bargani, and one guy from the bucks, they know they can shoot over him, so they just use him, gody cannot play center...NO WAY...he shoots too much also, as bbd is starting to do also.....why don't bbd start thinking like a rebounder....like in the pre season where he asked his role.....doc dosn't care about rebounders, he wants rebounds, but discards the rebounders we had. Erden is doing pretty well so far.

[Fafnir]

I just looked up his rebounding numbers responding to the Celticshub post about Semih, I thought I should share it here:

He's tied for 51 out of 58 Cs on pace to play 500 minutes

Throwing in PFs to that list he's 109th of 128 PF/Cs on pace to play 500 minutes.

Yuck.

[RJ87]

There won't be many people on that bandwagon. He is playing with a bad shoulder. He is fundamentally sound. He boxes out, can finish with either hand and can pass. And he runs the floor.  As he gains more experience he will become more comfortable with the defensive rotations.  He has good hands and he rebounds reasonably well.  If they'd had him vs LA in game 7 I think he would have grabbed more boards than Rasheed.  He goes up against Shaq in every practice.  That alone will improve him.   People were quick to rip Al Jefferson back in the day.  He became a walking
double double. Show a little patience.  KG has been working with him on his pick and roll defense.  KG doesn't waste his
time on humpties.

/co sign

also co-sign

triple co-sign.
Semih gets props for gutting it out with the bum shoulder with J.O. being out (what's up with him btw??). I see the potential there for him to be able to contribute backup minutes on this team, I don't see him as another Patrick O'Bryant.

Though KG did waste his time with Patrick O'Bryant.

If you can't already see differences between POB and Erden, I don't really know what to say... O'Bryant's limitations seemed to be mental - while Erden's shoulder has definitely inhibited him to start the season. I'm not saying Semih would be the next coming of Charles Barkeley if he was 100% healthy, but you can definitely see the work he puts in.

[ballin]

There won't be many people on that bandwagon. He is playing with a bad shoulder. He is fundamentally sound. He boxes out, can finish with either hand and can pass. And he runs the floor.  As he gains more experience he will become more comfortable with the defensive rotations.  He has good hands and he rebounds reasonably well.  If they'd had him vs LA in game 7 I think he would have grabbed more boards than Rasheed.  He goes up against Shaq in every practice.  That alone will improve him.   People were quick to rip Al Jefferson back in the day.  He became a walking
double double. Show a little patience.  KG has been working with him on his pick and roll defense.  KG doesn't waste his
time on humpties.

/co sign

also co-sign

triple co-sign.
Semih gets props for gutting it out with the bum shoulder with J.O. being out (what's up with him btw??). I see the potential there for him to be able to contribute backup minutes on this team, I don't see him as another Patrick O'Bryant.

Though KG did waste his time with Patrick O'Bryant.

Actually this is bullcrap. Patrick O'Bryant was the guy Doc was referring to when he made the statement about how KG doesn't waste his time with players who don't listen to him. Don't you remember those reports?