Perk: Shaq and J.O. Can't Do What I Do

[Fafnir]

2.) Shaq does just about everything you do (Better) accept defend the pick and roll (That's when JO comes in).

Getting schooled by Brook Lopez was a straight-up affair, and didn't involve many pick and rolls. Just saying.

Why do people forget that Perk routinely gets owned by the likes of Lopez, Bogut, Kaman (among others)

No kidding.  This is why I hate the argument that we need to pay him whatever he wants just to stop Dwight Howard.  If you slow Howard down, but get killed by Andrew Bogut, it kind of negates that a bit.

I think people focus too much on individual games or matchups.

Overall KP is one of the better post defenders in the game. The points per possesion bare this out.

[CelticG1]

2.) Shaq does just about everything you do (Better) accept defend the pick and roll (That's when JO comes in).

Getting schooled by Brook Lopez was a straight-up affair, and didn't involve many pick and rolls. Just saying.

Why do people forget that Perk routinely gets owned by the likes of Lopez, Bogut, Kaman (among others)

No kidding.  This is why I hate the argument that we need to pay him whatever he wants just to stop Dwight Howard.  If you slow Howard down, but get killed by Andrew Bogut, it kind of negates that a bit.

I think people focus too much on individual games or matchups.

Overall KP is one of the better post defenders in the game. The points per possesion bare this out.

That's what he is though, one of the best post defenders in the league and that's about it. What else does he really do besides that and setting good picks even though probably every 3rd pick he sets ends up being a turnover?

People were ripping Shaq about getting run by Lopez and how Perk wouldn't let that happen and all I say is that it does.

Even Shaq dropped 21 points on Perk in the playoffs last year

[BballTim]

2.) Shaq does just about everything you do (Better) accept defend the pick and roll (That's when JO comes in).

Getting schooled by Brook Lopez was a straight-up affair, and didn't involve many pick and rolls. Just saying.

Why do people forget that Perk routinely gets owned by the likes of Lopez, Bogut, Kaman (among others)

No kidding.  This is why I hate the argument that we need to pay him whatever he wants just to stop Dwight Howard.  If you slow Howard down, but get killed by Andrew Bogut, it kind of negates that a bit.

  We might not need to pay him whatever he wants, but you're ignoring the fact that he guards the rim very well and is one of the reasons players like LeBron don't get to the rim at will. He's one of the best defensive bigs in the league, and Shaq falls somewhere at the other end of the spectrum.

Oh, I am not saying don't resign him if the price is right.  I just hate the argument that we need to sign him because he is good against one player in the league, completely ignoring the guys he struggles against.

  I don't think we should sign him just because he defends Dwight well, but because he's one of the better defensive bigs out there. But I do think that how he fares against Howard is more important over the next few years than how he does against Bogut or Kaman or Lpoez.

[Mike-Dub]

Get healthy Perk... We need you!   

[Fafnir]

2.) Shaq does just about everything you do (Better) accept defend the pick and roll (That's when JO comes in).

Getting schooled by Brook Lopez was a straight-up affair, and didn't involve many pick and rolls. Just saying.

Why do people forget that Perk routinely gets owned by the likes of Lopez, Bogut, Kaman (among others)

No kidding.  This is why I hate the argument that we need to pay him whatever he wants just to stop Dwight Howard.  If you slow Howard down, but get killed by Andrew Bogut, it kind of negates that a bit.

I think people focus too much on individual games or matchups.

Overall KP is one of the better post defenders in the game. The points per possesion bare this out.

That's what he is though, one of the best post defenders in the league and that's about it. What else does he really do besides that and setting good picks even though probably every 3rd pick he sets ends up being a turnover?

People were ripping Shaq about getting run by Lopez and how Perk wouldn't let that happen and all I say is that it does.

Even Shaq dropped 21 points on Perk in the playoffs last year

Shaq dropped 21 points in a game the Cavs lost by 20+ points. Not only that but a lot of his points actually came in the pick and roll where he scored on feeds from Mo Williams. He wasn't a problem for Perkins in the post.

[MG1]

  I don't think we should sign him just because he defends Dwight well, but because he's one of the better defensive bigs out there. But I do think that how he fares against Howard is more important over the next few years than how he does against Bogut or Kaman or Lpoez.

Shaq defends Howard and Bynum better than Perkins. Lakers got owned by Cavs last reason.

[BballTim]

  I don't think we should sign him just because he defends Dwight well, but because he's one of the better defensive bigs out there. But I do think that how he fares against Howard is more important over the next few years than how he does against Bogut or Kaman or Lpoez.

Shaq defends Howard and Bynum better than Perkins. Lakers got owned by Cavs last reason.

  Howard puts up somewhat better numbers against Shaq. But that's ignoring the difference in team/help defense between the two, like Shaq's pick and roll D.

[Fafnir]

  I don't think we should sign him just because he defends Dwight well, but because he's one of the better defensive bigs out there. But I do think that how he fares against Howard is more important over the next few years than how he does against Bogut or Kaman or Lpoez.

Shaq defends Howard and Bynum better than Perkins. Lakers got owned by Cavs last reason.

  Howard puts up somewhat better numbers against Shaq. But that's ignoring the difference in team/help defense between the two, like Shaq's pick and roll D.

Yeah, Shaq is only a good post defender at this point. He's very poor in every other aspect of D.

[MG1]

I think we'd better wait and see how Celtics perform on defense with Shaq and JO and without Perkins. IMO, Perkins defense is somehow overrated. The truth is Shaq is also one of the best post defender, just like Perkins. Shaq's only weakness is his pick and roll defense.

Considering Shaq's offense is far better than Perkins. So overall, Shaq provides much more positives than negatives.

[makaveli]

I expect apsolutely nothing from Perk this year, that injury is serious and with healthy ex-allstar J.O. and Shaq Perk has no chance.
Perk has NO offense, both O'Neals combined with Rondo will produce points in the paint thah in some games we missed a lot.

[MG1]

  I don't think we should sign him just because he defends Dwight well, but because he's one of the better defensive bigs out there. But I do think that how he fares against Howard is more important over the next few years than how he does against Bogut or Kaman or Lpoez.

Shaq defends Howard and Bynum better than Perkins. Lakers got owned by Cavs last reason.

  Howard puts up somewhat better numbers against Shaq. But that's ignoring the difference in team/help defense between the two, like Shaq's pick and roll D.

Yeah, Shaq is only a good post defender at this point. He's very poor in every other aspect of D.

Shaq was not a very good defender even in his prime. So what? It didn't prevent him from getting his 4 rings. Defense is not everything.

[GreenFaith1819]

I think that drza44 and a few others mentioned it briefly here - but I hope Perk realizes that Kevin Garnett is (IMO) the anchor of the defense.

Yes - Perk is a top 5 defensive center, which is why I believe the man should stay in Boston. But - at the end of the day - KG has made Perk look really good on defense over the last few years.

KG will make Shaq (even at 38) a better defender, too - I believe that. No way that KG will let Shaq (or JO) be taken advantage of defensively, while he's in the game.

Perk - don't forget your Main Man - KG.

 

[BballTim]

I think that drza44 and a few others mentioned it briefly here - but I hope Perk realizes that Kevin Garnett is (IMO) the anchor of the defense.

Yes - Perk is a top 5 defensive center, which is why I believe the man should stay in Boston. But - at the end of the day - KG has made Perk look really good on defense over the last few years.

KG will make Shaq (even at 38) a better defender, too - I believe that. No way that KG will let Shaq (or JO) be taken advantage of defensively, while he's in the game.

Perk - don't forget your Main Man - KG.

 

  Perk was already a good defender. It might have been hard to see when he was playing with mainly inexperienced players and poor defenders, but he was. Same with Rondo and TA.

[Q_FBE]

Outside the box thinking:

THe emergence of the Beast of Erdin makes Perkins trade bait in February.......

Then we can trade Perkins to Portland for Greg Oden      

I like to think outside the box in certain situations to keep egos in check and rethink possible. Nothing personal. It is part of the rules of 33 that govern my life.

[kozlodoev]

2.) Shaq does just about everything you do (Better) accept defend the pick and roll (That's when JO comes in).

Getting schooled by Brook Lopez was a straight-up affair, and didn't involve many pick and rolls. Just saying.

Why do people forget that Perk routinely gets owned by the likes of Lopez, Bogut, Kaman (among others)

May have something to do with the fact that Perk hasn't said "No big man will come here and dominate" on the day before getting his rear end handed to him on a platter.

I am also quite curious who the "others" are among which you selected those three.