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Re: Perk: Shaq and J.O. Can't Do What I Do
« Reply #30 on: October 13, 2010, 08:47:40 AM »

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Don't most good players think they are better than they are?

Perk borders on delusional though. He's only really good at one thing, defense.  But I love the big lug. ;D
Perkins also sets some brutal screens. That's very important for the C's offense.

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« Reply #31 on: October 13, 2010, 09:09:25 AM »

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Perk makes a valid point. If he hadn't went down in Game 7, we would've had Banner 18.

Perk going down is a blessing in disguise, in that we have even more weapons at our disposal.

Get well, Perk.

I don't know if I am reading what you are saying correctly, but I would take Banner #18 this past June if it meant not signing JO and Shaq this offseason.
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« Reply #32 on: October 13, 2010, 09:23:32 AM »

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Perk makes a valid point. If he hadn't went down in Game 7, we would've had Banner 18.

Perk going down is a blessing in disguise, in that we have even more weapons at our disposal.

Get well, Perk.

I don't know if I am reading what you are saying correctly, but I would take Banner #18 this past June if it meant not signing JO and Shaq this offseason.
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Good Point! I had planned to be more direct with my statement, but didn't want to come across as disrespectful towards our two new weapons.

But you are correct! If Perk didn't go down and we won Banner 18 (more than likely), then JO and Shaq wouldn't be here....

But at the same time - Say we won Banner 18 last June, then after a summer of celebration we realize that we needed some more length - I think we would've had to have gone after at least one (or both) of these guys.....

I also hope that Perk, while being confident, doesn't come across as smug to Shaq and JO. He has to maintain a certain level of competition and respect.

He shouldn't be concerned with coming back here; I see no reason why Danny can't sign him to something respectful - along the lines of what Roy said (8-9 mil?)

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« Reply #33 on: October 13, 2010, 09:40:20 AM »

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Hey I understand. He's just confident. I want him signed going forward as well. He is a vital player for the Celtics. Although, I will say if Perk can't control his emotions for these new ref rules...I don't know. He'll get enough time to be prepared for that I guess. Til then, work on getting up the court faster than you speak at least, Perk. :-X
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Re: Perk: Shaq and J.O. Can't Do What I Do
« Reply #34 on: October 13, 2010, 10:38:46 AM »

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2.) Shaq does just about everything you do (Better) accept defend the pick and roll (That's when JO comes in).
Getting schooled by Brook Lopez was a straight-up affair, and didn't involve many pick and rolls. Just saying.
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« Reply #35 on: October 13, 2010, 11:25:59 AM »

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I guess I like his confidence.
Perk has about as much athletic ability as Shaq's pinky toe however.

I'm pretty sure there are things Shaq can still do- that Perk will never be able to do & there are things that PERK does that SHAQ could learn in 20 minutes.

Sorry Perk- I love the way you play- but don't compare yourself to HOFers  not even old ones.
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Re: Perk: Shaq and J.O. Can't Do What I Do
« Reply #36 on: October 13, 2010, 11:38:13 AM »

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I agree with Perk's comments.

I also think he is very motivated and will come back as close to 100% as possible.

We will still need Perk for the Lakers (if they make it to the finals[/i) and the Magic and Heat.  If we are to beat any of those teams in a 7 game series we need ALL 3 of our Centers to play well.

This is kinda off topic, but I said it before and will say it again.  I have a feeling in my gut something bad is going to happen to the Lakers this year.  They will have a major injury to Kobe or Pau, bank on it.
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« Reply #37 on: October 13, 2010, 12:23:30 PM »

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2.) Shaq does just about everything you do (Better) accept defend the pick and roll (That's when JO comes in).
Getting schooled by Brook Lopez was a straight-up affair, and didn't involve many pick and rolls. Just saying.

Why do people forget that Perk routinely gets owned by the likes of Lopez, Bogut, Kaman (among others)

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« Reply #38 on: October 13, 2010, 12:31:08 PM »

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I guess I like his confidence.
Perk has about as much athletic ability as Shaq's pinky toe however.

I'm pretty sure there are things Shaq can still do- that Perk will never be able to do & there are things that PERK does that SHAQ could learn in 20 minutes.

Sorry Perk- I love the way you play- but don't compare yourself to HOFers  not even old ones.

  Haha. If people look back to before the Cavs series last year, Shaq was frequently cited as a reason we'd be able to beat them. If Shaq could learn to defend like Perk in 20 minutes, I'd assume he could learn to hit most of his foul shots in the same amount of time.

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« Reply #39 on: October 13, 2010, 12:40:09 PM »

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I guess I like his confidence.
Perk has about as much athletic ability as Shaq's pinky toe however.

I'm pretty sure there are things Shaq can still do- that Perk will never be able to do & there are things that PERK does that SHAQ could learn in 20 minutes.

Sorry Perk- I love the way you play- but don't compare yourself to HOFers  not even old ones.

  Haha. If people look back to before the Cavs series last year, Shaq was frequently cited as a reason we'd be able to beat them. If Shaq could learn to defend like Perk in 20 minutes, I'd assume he could learn to hit most of his foul shots in the same amount of time.

Not to sound too much like a homer, but I know for me, that had a lot more to do with his fit on the team...and I think he fits better on the C's than the Cavs (although they needed him for the Magic).  He just clogged up the middle for Lebron, and having him on the floor kept a guy that killed the C's (Andy) off the floor.

On the C's, I don't think it is much of a problem, because Rondo needs much less room to work inside, and his style makes better use of Shaq hanging out on the weakside post when he drives.  Plus, the C's love running their offense through the low post, and there are few guys better in the league at that than Shaq.

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« Reply #40 on: October 13, 2010, 12:44:32 PM »

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2.) Shaq does just about everything you do (Better) accept defend the pick and roll (That's when JO comes in).
Getting schooled by Brook Lopez was a straight-up affair, and didn't involve many pick and rolls. Just saying.

Why do people forget that Perk routinely gets owned by the likes of Lopez, Bogut, Kaman (among others)

No kidding.  This is why I hate the argument that we need to pay him whatever he wants just to stop Dwight Howard.  If you slow Howard down, but get killed by Andrew Bogut, it kind of negates that a bit.

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« Reply #41 on: October 13, 2010, 12:46:13 PM »

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Boston Celtics Kendrick Perkins Is Doing A Lot Of Talking: He Might Be Out Of Boston
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October 13, 2010


            I preface this article with the following fact: I love Kendrick Perkins as a player. Perkins has been the anchor of the Boston Celtics defense in the paint for years. He sacrifices his offense and focuses on being the best defender and rebounder that he can be. However, Kendrick Perkins is a man doing a lot of talking. He is coming across as a guy trying to defend his right to his spot on this team. Looking at Danny Ainge’s recent moves and the team’s early success, he may be right.

            This preseason has been very impressive for the people replacing Perkins thus far. Shaq has proven to be a beast in the middle on offense. He scores at will off the easy passes that Rondo feeds him. He also looks quite mobile and active in the paint of defense. He is in shape and looks great. Jermaine O’Neal has only played limited minutes. However, during those limited minutes he has been very impressive. He has shown a nose for rebounds and blocks. When his offense comes back close to form, he will be a legit low post scoring threat off the bench. Semhi Erden has also impressed. The rookie has shown tremendous poise and is fundamentally sound at both ends of the floor. Combined all three are very impressive and only making 7.5 million a year combined.

Let us state the fact that Kendrick Perkins is a free agent after this year. He is young and has a lot of solid years ahead of him. Guys like Noah in Chicago and Tyson Chandler are making 10 plus million a year. Heck, even Brendan Heywood is making almost 7 million. They are all providing similar numbers to Kendrick Perkins. Two important questions are here. Number one is Danny Ainge going to want to spend that much money on Perkins with cheaper options out there?   The other is Kendrick Perkins going to take a discount to stay in Boston if that is the only way he stays.

I love Kendrick Perkins. The man does bring so much to the Celtics. He has given his body and soul to this team’s defense. Danny Ainge and Kendrick Perkins will have some very tough decisions to make. The question is beginning to burn, Is Perkins a Celtic after this year?

http://network.yardbarker.com/nba/article_external/boston_celtics_kendrick_perkins_is_doing_a_lot_of_talking_he_might_be_out_of_boston/3405226

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« Reply #42 on: October 13, 2010, 12:46:46 PM »

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I guess I like his confidence.
Perk has about as much athletic ability as Shaq's pinky toe however.

I'm pretty sure there are things Shaq can still do- that Perk will never be able to do & there are things that PERK does that SHAQ could learn in 20 minutes.

Sorry Perk- I love the way you play- but don't compare yourself to HOFers  not even old ones.

  Haha. If people look back to before the Cavs series last year, Shaq was frequently cited as a reason we'd be able to beat them. If Shaq could learn to defend like Perk in 20 minutes, I'd assume he could learn to hit most of his foul shots in the same amount of time.

Not to sound too much like a homer, but I know for me, that had a lot more to do with his fit on the team...and I think he fits better on the C's than the Cavs (although they needed him for the Magic).  He just clogged up the middle for Lebron, and having him on the floor kept a guy that killed the C's (Andy) off the floor.

On the C's, I don't think it is much of a problem, because Rondo needs much less room to work inside, and his style makes better use of Shaq hanging out on the weakside post when he drives.  Plus, the C's love running their offense through the low post, and there are few guys better in the league at that than Shaq.

  Shaq is better on offense, no doubt. But people are just dismissing the difference on defense. Doc's already talking about how the perimeter players are going to need to work harder to stop penetration. There's a reason for this.

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« Reply #43 on: October 13, 2010, 12:50:27 PM »

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2.) Shaq does just about everything you do (Better) accept defend the pick and roll (That's when JO comes in).
Getting schooled by Brook Lopez was a straight-up affair, and didn't involve many pick and rolls. Just saying.

Why do people forget that Perk routinely gets owned by the likes of Lopez, Bogut, Kaman (among others)

No kidding.  This is why I hate the argument that we need to pay him whatever he wants just to stop Dwight Howard.  If you slow Howard down, but get killed by Andrew Bogut, it kind of negates that a bit.

  We might not need to pay him whatever he wants, but you're ignoring the fact that he guards the rim very well and is one of the reasons players like LeBron don't get to the rim at will. He's one of the best defensive bigs in the league, and Shaq falls somewhere at the other end of the spectrum.

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2.) Shaq does just about everything you do (Better) accept defend the pick and roll (That's when JO comes in).
Getting schooled by Brook Lopez was a straight-up affair, and didn't involve many pick and rolls. Just saying.

Why do people forget that Perk routinely gets owned by the likes of Lopez, Bogut, Kaman (among others)

No kidding.  This is why I hate the argument that we need to pay him whatever he wants just to stop Dwight Howard.  If you slow Howard down, but get killed by Andrew Bogut, it kind of negates that a bit.

  We might not need to pay him whatever he wants, but you're ignoring the fact that he guards the rim very well and is one of the reasons players like LeBron don't get to the rim at will. He's one of the best defensive bigs in the league, and Shaq falls somewhere at the other end of the spectrum.

Oh, I am not saying don't resign him if the price is right.  I just hate the argument that we need to sign him because he is good against one player in the league, completely ignoring the guys he struggles against.