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Re: Perk: Shaq and J.O. Can't Do What I Do
« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2010, 11:16:16 PM »

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Sorry Perk, but I'm not entirely sure that's true.

1.) KG's the captain of the defense.

2.) Shaq does just about everything you do (Better) accept defend the pick and roll (That's when JO comes in).


Shaq, at this point in his career, is no where near the defender Perk is and that is in all phases in "D" not just the pick and roll... and Perk is a bettter per 48 rebounder than either one are.. Without a healthy Perk at the end of the season we will not win banner 18

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« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2010, 12:12:18 AM »

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Perk makes a valid point. If he hadn't went down in Game 7, we would've had Banner 18.

Perk going down is a blessing in disguise, in that we have even more weapons at our disposal.

Get well, Perk.

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« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2010, 12:34:42 AM »

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Perkins has a bit of a chip on his shoulder.  I wouldn't be shocked if he considers himself more important to the defense.  I'm pretty sure he thinks he should be more than the fifth option on offense and that they should run more plays specifically for him.  I wouldn't be shocked if Perkins bolts as a free agent if Ainge decides that Perk's injury history and limited offensive capabilities means that he is worth only so many dollars for so many years and Perkins thinks he is worth more money and a maximum length contract.  I don't know about you, but I would hate to give Perk a five-year contract unless he gave the team a discount.  On the other hand, I can see some other team massively overpaying, even if Perkins isn't fully recovered from his injury by the end of this season.

If Perkins said he was as important to the team as Rondo and demanded an equal contract, would you pay him without hesitation?
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« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2010, 12:45:41 AM »

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Sorry Perk, but I'm not entirely sure that's true.

1.) KG's the captain of the defense.

2.) Shaq does just about everything you do (Better) accept defend the pick and roll (That's when JO comes in).


Kendrick Perkins was the captain of the defense, KG may have been the best defensive player. BUT Perk, as the Center, is the quarterback of the defense.

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« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2010, 01:44:45 AM »

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Perkins has a bit of a chip on his shoulder.  I wouldn't be shocked if he considers himself more important to the defense.  I'm pretty sure he thinks he should be more than the fifth option on offense and that they should run more plays specifically for him.  I wouldn't be shocked if Perkins bolts as a free agent if Ainge decides that Perk's injury history and limited offensive capabilities means that he is worth only so many dollars for so many years and Perkins thinks he is worth more money and a maximum length contract.  I don't know about you, but I would hate to give Perk a five-year contract unless he gave the team a discount.  On the other hand, I can see some other team massively overpaying, even if Perkins isn't fully recovered from his injury by the end of this season.

If Perkins said he was as important to the team as Rondo and demanded an equal contract, would you pay him without hesitation?



Perkins has made some bold statements thus far in the early season. I think splurging anything over MLE type money would be overpaying. Perk is simply redundant at this point with Shaq and Jermaine, and he just doesn't possess the skills to be a future building block. I wouldn't shocked or sad to see him shipped out at the deadline, because, barring some type of miracle, he will be out of the rotation when he comes back healthy. The C's might as well get something in return for him, instead of letting him bolt in free agency.

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« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2010, 06:17:22 AM »

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Perkins has a bit of a chip on his shoulder.  I wouldn't be shocked if he considers himself more important to the defense.  I'm pretty sure he thinks he should be more than the fifth option on offense and that they should run more plays specifically for him.  I wouldn't be shocked if Perkins bolts as a free agent if Ainge decides that Perk's injury history and limited offensive capabilities means that he is worth only so many dollars for so many years and Perkins thinks he is worth more money and a maximum length contract.  I don't know about you, but I would hate to give Perk a five-year contract unless he gave the team a discount.  On the other hand, I can see some other team massively overpaying, even if Perkins isn't fully recovered from his injury by the end of this season.

If Perkins said he was as important to the team as Rondo and demanded an equal contract, would you pay him without hesitation?



Perkins has made some bold statements thus far in the early season. I think splurging anything over MLE type money would be overpaying. Perk is simply redundant at this point with Shaq and Jermaine, and he just doesn't possess the skills to be a future building block. I wouldn't shocked or sad to see him shipped out at the deadline, because, barring some type of miracle, he will be out of the rotation when he comes back healthy. The C's might as well get something in return for him, instead of letting him bolt in free agency.


If Perk is healthy, Perk is starting.


How many times do we have to hear Doc say that starting 5 as a unit have not lost a playoff series to understand Doc wants that starting 5 out there? 


When everyone is healthy, the battle will be between JO and Davis for minutes at PF as Perk and Shaq will run the C spot.  Perk the defender, Shaq the low post threat.  Two big bodies that give the Celtics a different look.  (plus the best two defenders on Howard)

Re: Perk: Shaq and J.O. Can't Do What I Do
« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2010, 06:29:00 AM »

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I am honestly very curious to see what the team looks like during this time when Perkins is out.  I have always believed that KG was the defense, and that Perk was more of a defensive role player who happened to have the required size and attitude to play his role.  But, Perk was still, IMO, the either the 2nd or 3rd most important person for the defense (interchanged with Thibs, just ahead of Rondo). 

From this quote, it sounds as though Perk sees himself as even more of a key to the defense, and confidence is good.  But if Perk is right, then essentially he is one of the best defensive players in the NBA and the defense shouldn't be able to function without him.  I don't believe that to be true, but we'll soon see.  Perhaps Perk is being so aggressive in his comments now (between this one and the one stating emphatically that he'll start when he gets back) because he knows that if the team comes out and has a top defense this year even while he's out, he loses a lot of leverage to maintain his argument.

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« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2010, 06:50:37 AM »

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What's that Perk, they can't get injured against the Lakers in a 7 game series? Didn't that happen to you twice? Isn't that why they're here, slow poke? Is it that they can't lead the league in techs? We know they can't be in the NBA without making All-Star, All-Defensive & All-NBA teams(yes even 3rd team). I like Perk, but shouldn't he be rehabbing, then spouting about accomplished players? Get to work and stop all that hollering.

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« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2010, 07:18:15 AM »

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What's that Perk, they can't get injured against the Lakers in a 7 game series? Didn't that happen to you twice? Isn't that why they're here, slow poke? Is it that they can't lead the league in techs? We know they can't be in the NBA without making All-Star, All-Defensive & All-NBA teams(yes even 3rd team). I like Perk, but shouldn't he be rehabbing, then spouting about accomplished players? Get to work and stop all that hollering.

LOL. I agree with this.  But I do like Perk.  I just wish he didn't think he was better than he is.
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« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2010, 07:20:25 AM »

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Don't most good players think they are better than they are?
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« Reply #25 on: October 13, 2010, 07:22:19 AM »

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Perkins has a bit of a chip on his shoulder.  I wouldn't be shocked if he considers himself more important to the defense.  I'm pretty sure he thinks he should be more than the fifth option on offense and that they should run more plays specifically for him.  I wouldn't be shocked if Perkins bolts as a free agent if Ainge decides that Perk's injury history and limited offensive capabilities means that he is worth only so many dollars for so many years and Perkins thinks he is worth more money and a maximum length contract.  I don't know about you, but I would hate to give Perk a five-year contract unless he gave the team a discount.  On the other hand, I can see some other team massively overpaying, even if Perkins isn't fully recovered from his injury by the end of this season.

If Perkins said he was as important to the team as Rondo and demanded an equal contract, would you pay him without hesitation?

Perk has said repeatedly that Boston is the only place he wants to be, and he gave the team a pretty hefty hometown discount once (which was below market, and reportedly against his agent's advice).  I think he'll agree to a fair deal.

Reasonable minds can disagree on what's fair, but I think he's looking in the ball park of $8 million per year. 


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« Reply #26 on: October 13, 2010, 07:28:31 AM »

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"OK, listen," Perkins said, "I'm going to put it like this here: I can't do what Shaq is doing, and Shaq can't do what I do. I can't do what Jermaine does, and Jermaine can't do what I do. So the things that they bring to the table are different than what I bring to the table. See what I'm saying?

"At the end of the day you can say what you want, but I'm really the captain of the defense," he said. "And that won't change."


Read more: http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/69535/20101012/perkins_im_still_captain_of_bostons_defense/#ixzz12CKm5IFC

Good for Perk.  I love the confidence, and I love the acknowledgment that all three centers have a role.  He knows what his role is, and that's to defend the paint.  (Quibble, though:  isn't KG the captain of the defense?)

Seems like both a logical and insightful answer from Perkins to a question meant to create controversy.  The media knows Perkins is very confident (rightfully so) and has a chip on his shoulder so they are hoping he says something that they can use to create tension among the ranks.

He means he's the anchor of the defense but, as I mentioned he words things poorly which is what they are hoping he'll do to create controversy.  There is just too many good vibes going on with this team.  No major KG injuries to harp on and all the players appear to get along even though they are very talented and want to play.  Too boring for the press so they will keep hammering Perkins and he will eventually get fed up having to justify why a former champion who's best known for his defense against the best Center in the league deserves playing time.
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« Reply #27 on: October 13, 2010, 07:35:28 AM »

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Yeah, that's the important thing to remember:  Perk was responding to a question.  It's not like he was calling his own press conference, holding court and issuing proclamations.


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« Reply #28 on: October 13, 2010, 08:04:58 AM »

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Perk makes a valid point. If he hadn't went down in Game 7, we would've had Banner 18.

Perk going down is a blessing in disguise, in that we have even more weapons at our disposal.

Get well, Perk.

Was just going to say that.  I agree with him though.  The O'neals do some things that Perk can't do.  Perk does some things which they can't do.  We all should know that by now.  Come playoff time, a healthy Perkins is what we want in that starting line up.  He's going to do a much better job defending guys like Dwight Howard, Al Horford, Joakim Noah/Carlos Boozer and hopefully we can include guys like Bynum/Gasol, Duncan but thats a lot of playoff basketball away.  We know what Shaq and Jermaine bring to the table.  Shaq is going to come in, give us instant post offense and he's going to rebound.  Jermaine plays more of a KG style on offense and he's a solid defender.  Perkins has zero offensive game, but he rebounds and is one of the best interior defenders in basketball.  Ultimately the 3 should be able to work very well together.
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« Reply #29 on: October 13, 2010, 08:08:36 AM »

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Don't most good players think they are better than they are?

Perk borders on delusional though. He's only really good at one thing, defense.  But I love the big lug. ;D
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