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Re: Moss may be gone
« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2010, 08:27:12 PM »

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We really really  better be getting something good in return and I too hope its not this Moss extend me or trade me or I'll make a fuss Moss stuff.

It will kill my fantasy team if Moss's production drops. Thank god this is a bye week.

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Re: Moss may be gone
« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2010, 08:29:29 PM »

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Re: Moss may be gone
« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2010, 08:31:37 PM »

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and twitter exploding too.

count me as
a. Skeptical
b. worried if it goes through (defense still quite suspect, we need our offense to score lots of points to win, and moss still draws double teams consistently; i think we'd really miss him, and does Brady want to lose him?)

On the flipside, he's a complainer and on the decline (how'd he miss that TD to end the 1st half?)


Here it is here too:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/10/05/glazer-vikings-patriots-talking-trade-for-moss/

Hopefully it's because it's a deal too good to be true in order for desperate Minny to keep Favre happy so he doesn't retire at the bye week.

Berrian and Jared Allen!! (I wish)



Hopefully it's NOT because Moss told the Pats to extend him or trade him because he was going to start making a major fuss.


And hopefully it's none of this "2014 First Rounder" stuff...you can only stockpile for so long before your All-Pro HOF QB, your single greatest advantage, fastest QB ever to 100 wins, is too old to play with the stockpiled assets anymore.

I wouldn't mind a 2011 1st rounder. We'd be stacked in the upcoming draft, and have the hard cap space to replace Moss through free agency. Plus, if he's going to be gone after this season anyway, then why not? Brady has proven he doesn't need a clear cut #1 receiver to win.

Interesting note: Moss had 0 catches last night. I'm betting he's not too happy about putting up a donut.

I'd be very very scared to trade Moss for nothing immediate because
A. Though deep with pass targets (Tate, Welker, 3 TEs, Edelman...anyone else?) Moss still has something special, as demonstrated by his splitting 3 defenders for the deep bomb in the Buffalo game.
B. Though deep with pass targets, one injury (never an NFL rarity) can suddenly change that.
C. I want Brady excited and happy to run the offense
D. Our defense is still suspect; does the monday night game end the same way without the fluky special teams stuff? What if they get that punt off and the Pats don't get the easy TD and they settle for punt/FG? What if, then, the Dolphins can continue to pound the run? Does the outcome change? I don't know. Point is, Defense is still unproven and thus, unless we're getting immediate help, the Pats need all the weapons they have to outscore other teams
E. I acknowledge I could be completely wrong with this, BUT: I get the sense that Moss is still frequently double teamed/gameplanned for. What is the domino effect on the offense (including the highly suspect and thin running game) if Moss is gone and not replaced? Scares me.



On the flipside, there are still times each week I think Moss is overrated and contained; but on the flip flip side I can't tell if that's just because he's double teamed and therefore opening things up for everyone else. But if he IS overrated, the Pats could definitely come out ahead if getting appropriate talent now. Personally, the Pats are already stacked for the future, and they need to be getting real players so that they can take advantage of being lucky enough to have one of the all-time greatest QBs. At some point, you can't build for the future all the time, you need to pounce on chances to win Super Bowls while you can.

Re: Moss may be gone
« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2010, 08:34:53 PM »

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E. I acknowledge I could be completely wrong with this, BUT: I get the sense that Moss is still frequently double teamed/gameplanned for. What is the domino effect on the offense (including the highly suspect and thin running game) if Moss is gone and not replaced? Scares me.

Seemed like he was a big part of Miami's gameplan last night.

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Re: Moss may be gone
« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2010, 08:37:46 PM »

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The Herald is reporting moss was demanding a trade after week one.

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http://bostonherald.com/blogs/sports/rap_sheet/

Good find:
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Following his Week 1 soliloquy to the media, Patriots WR Randy Moss asked to be traded, a source told the Herald’s Karen Guregian.

Re: Moss may be gone
« Reply #20 on: October 05, 2010, 08:38:11 PM »

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Good ridance Moss.  We gave you your second chance when no one else would and this is how you repay us.

Get outta town and I can't wait till we beat you and your Vikings butt in week 8!
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Re: Moss may be gone
« Reply #21 on: October 05, 2010, 08:39:35 PM »

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BREAKING: After Week 1, Randy Moss had his agent Joel Segal call Bill Belichick and ask for a trade, The Herald's Karen Guregian has learned

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Re: Moss may be gone
« Reply #22 on: October 05, 2010, 08:42:09 PM »

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http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/10/05/randy-moss-trade-being-discussed-by-patriots-vikings/

Vomit in mouth.. They are saying 3rd round pick on NFL fanhouse. 
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Re: Moss may be gone
« Reply #23 on: October 05, 2010, 08:44:46 PM »

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http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/10/05/randy-moss-trade-being-discussed-by-patriots-vikings/

Vomit in mouth.. They are saying 3rd round pick on NFL fanhouse. 


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source did say the two sides have been having discussions that have centered on Moss going to Minnesota for a third-round draft pick.

Oh man... that's not enough.

Re: Moss may be gone
« Reply #24 on: October 05, 2010, 08:46:09 PM »

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http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/10/05/randy-moss-trade-being-discussed-by-patriots-vikings/

Vomit in mouth.. They are saying 3rd round pick on NFL fanhouse. 


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source did say the two sides have been having discussions that have centered on Moss going to Minnesota for a third-round draft pick.

Oh man... that's not enough.

Not enough at all there's got to be more than this.  I'm bout to vomit.  This is a joke.

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Re: Moss may be gone
« Reply #25 on: October 05, 2010, 08:47:46 PM »

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Im so mad right now if this third rounder report is true.  Its taking all the strength i have not to launch into a profanity laced tirade
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Re: Moss may be gone
« Reply #26 on: October 05, 2010, 08:50:19 PM »

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Re: Moss may be gone
« Reply #27 on: October 05, 2010, 08:54:31 PM »

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Im so mad right now if this third rounder report is true.  Its taking all the strength i have not to launch into a profanity laced tirade

You're not the only one.  This is ridiculous!
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Re: Moss may be gone
« Reply #28 on: October 05, 2010, 08:55:42 PM »

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/10/05/pats-say-there-is-no-trade/


Nevermind just read the whole article.  No trade yet..
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Re: Moss may be gone
« Reply #29 on: October 05, 2010, 08:57:31 PM »

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Unless the Vikings are willing to pay a price the Pats can't refuse, I'm scratching my head a bit on why the Pats would do this at this particular moment.

Concur (TP) I don't see the motivation for this move unless there's stuff going on behind the scenes that we aren't privy to, (which wouldn't surprise me with Moss, actually). I can't imagine one game of not being thrown to would be enough motivation to make Randy want to leave ... yes, every receiver wants some attempts to come his way, but they were on him like white on rice last night, and the opportunities were just not there. I know Randy is very temperamental, but I would not want to lose him ... if we do, our long game is pretty much screwed. Moss's height and speed make him a long-passing game target that's very hard to find these days. I really hope this is just banter for the pundits.
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