Baby Complaining

[moiso]

Didn't sound like he was complaining to me.

How so?  One of his comments was:

"It's difficult because, as a player, you kind of don't understand where [the organization is] going or what they are doing. No matter what I do -- I can play great -- it's still not enough.

To me, that sounds like a complaint.  Doc took it that way, saying that BBD was "living up to his nickname" (i.e., being a baby) and indicating that BBD was trying to get headlines.

To me it doesn't.  Just because he's stating that he's not sure about his role doesn't mean he's complaining, especially considering what he says immediately thereafter.  And I can't tell from the story if he was asked that question or not.  He probably was.

I have to find out what my role is this year,” Davis said. “With Rasheed last year, I had to become a center. Now, I don’t know. Do I become a 4 now? Do I go back to playing the 4? We’ll see.”

With training camp beginning tomorrow, Davis is hoping for an answer about his role.

“It’s going to go through some ups and downs with me and Doc (Rivers), but that’s what it is,” Davis said. “As long as I find out what my role is, I’m going to do my role and that’s it.”

Though Davis is trying to keep the focus on the team, he can’t ignore the fact that he’ll be a free agent after this season.

“You just do what you’re supposed to do, the basketball gods will reward you,” Davis said. “Don’t play somebody you’re not. Play who you are and play within the team, sacrifice yourself and on the other end, things will work out your way. I’m just trying to look at this situation positive. I’m not even looking at a contract year. At the same time, I am. But if I sit there and focus on that, I’m not focused on my team and that takes away from not only winning, but also this (team).”

And people have to know by now that Davis is going to say whatever is on his mind when a microphone is shoved in his face, whether it should be said out loud or not.

Yeah i agree with this.  Even if its a tiny little thought in the back of his head, its going to come out.

[Andy Jick]

i think it's time to ditch the "big baby" moniker he carries...

...it's like a built-in excuse for him to whine and sulk.  time for him to grow up and stop this nonsense.  my guess is that danny's already tiring of this and i wouldn't be surprised if danny's gauging interest...

[Fafnir]

9 rebounds, 6 points on 50% FG and 100% FT in 21 minutes isn't nowhere Roy.

He wasn't great that game, but he did his part. He scored when he took shots and he got rebounds. We needed rebounds as much as we needed scoring.

Rebounds are a moot point if they are offensive ones under your own basket and you proceed to force a follow up shot up and get it blocked or miss wildly. People on here way overvalue his offensive rebounding since they typically result in a turnover or a miss. That gives us nothing.

I admire the guys hustle on the floor. I admire the way he is able to body up big guys. He is actually pretty good when getting the ball about 10 feet out and attacking the rim from there. Other than that he doesn't really give you much. Solid, but not by any stretch anything special. There are lots of players in the league that put up as good or better numbers than he does. The guy only averaged 3.8 boards a game last season and just under that for his career. The legend of BBD and his production is almost as big as Tony Allens!

I'm assuming you're talking about his game in general, because if you're responding to my comment about game 7 I don't know where you're coming from at all. He had 8 defensive boards and 1 offensive board, and scored at a decent clip 6 possessions for 6 points.

[Bankshot]

i think it's time to ditch the "big baby" moniker he carries...

...it's like a built-in excuse for him to whine and sulk.  time for him to grow up and stop this nonsense.  my guess is that danny's already tiring of this and i wouldn't be surprised if danny's gauging interest...

Why?  Because you don't like it?  That's his nickname he grew up with, it's not going anywhere.  You know you don't have to call him Big Baby if you don't want to.

[Chris]

I am a Big Baby fan, but he needs to shut up.  He just doesn't think things through before he says them to the media, and that just is not smart.

I am afraid he is also shooting himself out of town a bit here.  I think he sees the writing on the wall and knows that once Perk comes back, he is going to really struggle to get PT in a contract year.  I think he is going to push really hard to be traded this season.

[RAcker]

With stuff like this, it's no wonder that Doc's hair is getting thinner and thinner and Danny's is getting whiter and whiter.

[RAcker]

I am a Big Baby fan, but he needs to shut up.  He just doesn't think things through before he says them to the media, and that just is not smart.

I am afraid he is also shooting himself out of town a bit here.  I think he sees the writing on the wall and knows that once Perk comes back, he is going to really struggle to get PT in a contract year.  I think he is going to push really hard to be traded this season.

Amen.

[Fafnir]

With stuff like this, it's no wonder that Doc's hair is getting thinner and thinner and Danny's is getting whiter and whiter.

Its a high pressure career, there is a reason why these guys get paid so much money. Its big bussiness with tough expectations.

[moiso]

The ridiculous thing is that it's not like they are asking him to play football or baseball.  He's still going to be playing basketball.  I really don't see his point at all.  So he gets to take a few more jumpers and gets to have his shot blocked a little less.  Big deal.  If he is playing well, he's going to be playing well.  And it's not like he is going to be playing with Shaq 100% of the time.  Jermaine prefers to pop out and shoot jumpers.

Baby doesn't think before he speaks, but he really doesn't even have a point here.

[EJPLAYA]

9 rebounds, 6 points on 50% FG and 100% FT in 21 minutes isn't nowhere Roy.

He wasn't great that game, but he did his part. He scored when he took shots and he got rebounds. We needed rebounds as much as we needed scoring.

Rebounds are a moot point if they are offensive ones under your own basket and you proceed to force a follow up shot up and get it blocked or miss wildly. People on here way overvalue his offensive rebounding since they typically result in a turnover or a miss. That gives us nothing.

I admire the guys hustle on the floor. I admire the way he is able to body up big guys. He is actually pretty good when getting the ball about 10 feet out and attacking the rim from there. Other than that he doesn't really give you much. Solid, but not by any stretch anything special. There are lots of players in the league that put up as good or better numbers than he does. The guy only averaged 3.8 boards a game last season and just under that for his career. The legend of BBD and his production is almost as big as Tony Allens!

I'm assuming you're talking about his game in general, because if you're responding to my comment about game 7 I don't know where you're coming from at all. He had 8 defensive boards and 1 offensive board, and scored at a decent clip 6 possessions for 6 points.

Of course I am talking about his overall game. Picking out one game doesn't give you an honest assessment of his abilities. If it did, then why not use his line from game 5?! The guys numbers do not allow him to say the things he said. He is a mediocre player that is a bench/role player. Defending him or overlooking him whining makes no sense at all. The guy needs to shut his trap, collect his paycheck, and work on the deficiencies in his game. If you want to have a solid role then come back 30 lbs lighter. Show the dedication needed to becoming a better player before you run your mouth, because you're just not that good. 

[BballTim]

9 rebounds, 6 points on 50% FG and 100% FT in 21 minutes isn't nowhere Roy.

He wasn't great that game, but he did his part. He scored when he took shots and he got rebounds. We needed rebounds as much as we needed scoring.

Rebounds are a moot point if they are offensive ones under your own basket and you proceed to force a follow up shot up and get it blocked or miss wildly. People on here way overvalue his offensive rebounding since they typically result in a turnover or a miss. That gives us nothing.

I admire the guys hustle on the floor. I admire the way he is able to body up big guys. He is actually pretty good when getting the ball about 10 feet out and attacking the rim from there. Other than that he doesn't really give you much. Solid, but not by any stretch anything special. There are lots of players in the league that put up as good or better numbers than he does. The guy only averaged 3.8 boards a game last season and just under that for his career. The legend of BBD and his production is almost as big as Tony Allens!

I'm assuming you're talking about his game in general, because if you're responding to my comment about game 7 I don't know where you're coming from at all. He had 8 defensive boards and 1 offensive board, and scored at a decent clip 6 possessions for 6 points.

Of course I am talking about his overall game. Picking out one game doesn't give you an honest assessment of his abilities. If it did, then why not use his line from game 5?!

  They were, in fact, discussing his play in particular games.

[Fafnir]

9 rebounds, 6 points on 50% FG and 100% FT in 21 minutes isn't nowhere Roy.

He wasn't great that game, but he did his part. He scored when he took shots and he got rebounds. We needed rebounds as much as we needed scoring.

Rebounds are a moot point if they are offensive ones under your own basket and you proceed to force a follow up shot up and get it blocked or miss wildly. People on here way overvalue his offensive rebounding since they typically result in a turnover or a miss. That gives us nothing.

I admire the guys hustle on the floor. I admire the way he is able to body up big guys. He is actually pretty good when getting the ball about 10 feet out and attacking the rim from there. Other than that he doesn't really give you much. Solid, but not by any stretch anything special. There are lots of players in the league that put up as good or better numbers than he does. The guy only averaged 3.8 boards a game last season and just under that for his career. The legend of BBD and his production is almost as big as Tony Allens!

I'm assuming you're talking about his game in general, because if you're responding to my comment about game 7 I don't know where you're coming from at all. He had 8 defensive boards and 1 offensive board, and scored at a decent clip 6 possessions for 6 points.

Of course I am talking about his overall game.

Perhaps you shouldn't have quoted my post then, since you weren't really responding to me at all.

[MBz]

I actually don't mind him saying this.  His role has been jerked around each year since he's been here.  His first year his role was playing inside, his second year KG got hurt and he developed the 12-15 jumper more a midrange game.  Last year they brought in Sheed and he had to go back to working inside.  This year with Shaq and Jermaine O'Neal coming in, he may not actually know what his role is.  Should he have said it? Probably not, the best way for him to figure out his role is to head into Doc's office and ask him.   In his defense though, he is probably the most criticized player on the team.  Even when he was playing well and keeping his mouth shut, people still found flaws to bring out.  He is what he is.  A 6'8 big which we drafted in the 2nd round and has been great value for his contract.

[Chris]

I actually don't mind him saying this.  His role has been jerked around each year since he's been here.  His first year his role was playing inside, his second year KG got hurt and he developed the 12-15 jumper more a midrange game.  Last year they brought in Sheed and he had to go back to working inside.  This year with Shaq and Jermaine O'Neal coming in, he may not actually know what his role is.  Should he have said it? Probably not, the best way for him to figure out his role is to head into Doc's office and ask him.   In his defense though, he is probably the most criticized player on the team.  Even when he was playing well and keeping his mouth shut, people still found flaws to bring out.  He is what he is.  A 6'8 big which we drafted in the 2nd round and has been great value for his contract.

Honestly, he brings it upon himself.  Most of the time he is criticized based on his actions and words.  If he doesn't want to be criticized, he should be more careful with what he says, and act in a more mature manner.

I am a fan of him, and I think there was a great chance he was taken a bit out of context here, and an even bigger chance this is just making a mountain out of a molehill.  But the bottom line is, he should know better than to say things like this to the media by now.  They are going to blow it up, because it is what they do. 

[LooseCannon]

Does it seem that perhaps Glen Davis thinks he should be the first big off the bench when the team is healthy and the temporary starter if Perk or KG is out of the lineup?

Or maybe he feels threatened by Harangody.