Official Discuss your CB Draft team

[jgod213]

Do we have any idea how many people have made their rankings?

Last I read Faf said he had 9.5 ballots and that a ballot wouldn't be counted unless you voted for both conferences.

yeah that .5 belonged to me but i've since put in my vote for the western conference.

[StartOrien]

IP, don't you dare try to steal my 'spell your name with a z' gimmick! Or else...

[Lucky17]

IP, don't you dare try to steal my 'spell your name with a z' gimmick! Or else...

Is that with a side of angry pickles?

[nickagneta]

Orlando is deep, but i see the lack of a true PG (and the decomposed body of VC) as a problem.

I think you're ignoring Ty Lawson. In a crop full of rookie PG's he arguably sat comfortably on the list at 5th, behind Evans, Jennings, Curry, Collison, but ahead of guys like Johnny Flynn and Jrue Holiday.

Out of those 7 guys, 5 are being tagged as starters in the CB draft.

With the exception of Evans, Lawson's Per36 numbers across the board and PER were as good or better than every single one of those other guys. His TS% was an off the charts 60%. That is awesome for any PG never mind a rookie.

Yeah, but Lawson's passing was not near where Curry, Jennings, or Collison's was. That however might have had a lot to do with role. Billups didn't pass much last season either.

Actually on a Per36 basis Lawson only had .3 less assists than Curry and .7 assists less than Jennings.

Another thing, Lawson had a +4 differential between his offensive and defensive ratings, the only one of the group with a positive number. Now, you may say that was because of the team he was playing on but Denver had the 16th best defensive team rating in the game whereas Milwaukee, who Jennings played for had the third best team defensive rating, yet he had a -4 differential between his offensive and defensive ratings.

So statistics at least point in the direction that Lawson might be one of the best defensively as well.

[ChampKind]

The Magic have one of the finest playmaking wings in the league in Joe Johnson and another good playmaker in Vince Carter + a good passing combo-forward in Kirilenko.

The burden on the point guard to be a creative passer is minimal.

Someone like Jason Terry who is a good setup guard and a very efficient shooter is an excellent fit.

Thanks, Who. I think that Terry is the best fit alongside that starting 5, who don't necessarily need a pure point to be effective. Lawson's status as a change of pace guy is much more effective off the bench, similar to how he was used in Denver last year, although with a larger role for this fake team.

In situations that call for a steady hand and play-caller, Lawson will be there, no doubt. This extends to late game and postseason situations as well, though I will be the first to point out that Terry's experience gives him an edge here. However, Lawson, a NCAA National Champion, shines under pressure as well. All things considered, it's probably 24 mins apiece for Lawson/Terry at the point, with Terry picking up 6 or so minutes at SG alongside Ty.

Lawson is young, but steady and willing to learn under a guy like Terry - and since Lawson has such nice pure point instincts, I don't have to worry about him getting caught up in a shoot-first role. We've got the guys to generate the offense as well as a few different players who can set the table.

My votes will be coming in soon, Faf.

[dark_lord]

i was told to post my vote by KC in this thread.  are we supposed to do that?

i have no problem posting it, but i dont want people grilling me why i voted the way i do causing petty drama bc their feelings are all hurt bc i didnt vote a particular team as high as they thought it should be. 

[Lucky17]

i was told to post my vote by KC in this thread.  are we supposed to do that?

i have no problem posting it, but i dont want people grilling me why i voted the way i do causing petty drama bc their feelings are all hurt bc i didnt vote a particular team as high as they thought it should be. 

This is a no-grill zone, I believe.

[dark_lord]

i was told to post my vote by KC in this thread.  are we supposed to do that?

i have no problem posting it, but i dont want people grilling me why i voted the way i do causing petty drama bc their feelings are all hurt bc i didnt vote a particular team as high as they thought it should be. 

This is a no-grill zone, I believe.

doesnt mean it wont carry over into other areas or at other times on the blog. 

[Roy H.]

i was told to post my vote by KC in this thread.  are we supposed to do that?

i have no problem posting it, but i dont want people grilling me why i voted the way i do causing petty drama bc their feelings are all hurt bc i didnt vote a particular team as high as they thought it should be. 

It's completely optional.  If you don't want to discuss your picks, I'd say just keep it secret.

[KCattheStripe]

i was told to post my vote by KC in this thread.  are we supposed to do that?

i have no problem posting it, but i dont want people grilling me why i voted the way i do causing petty drama bc their feelings are all hurt bc i didnt vote a particular team as high as they thought it should be. 

It's completely optional.  If you don't want to discuss your picks, I'd say just keep it secret.

I was intending to show enthusiasm for the idea, not demanding it. Do what you feel like DL!

[dark_lord]

i was told to post my vote by KC in this thread.  are we supposed to do that?

i have no problem posting it, but i dont want people grilling me why i voted the way i do causing petty drama bc their feelings are all hurt bc i didnt vote a particular team as high as they thought it should be. 

It's completely optional.  If you don't want to discuss your picks, I'd say just keep it secret.

I was intending to show enthusiasm for the idea, not demanding it. Do what you feel like DL!

oh, i know.  i understand u guys put a lot of time and energy into it so u want to know what other people think, especially outsiders not involved in the process.

screw it.....here it is, lol.

Eastern Conf:
1. TOR
2. ORL
3. CHI
4. ATL
5. MIL
6. CHAR
7. IND
8. WASH
9. MIA
10. NY
11. DET
12. CLE
13. BOS
14. NJ
15. PHI


Western Conf.
1. LA CLIPS
2. PHX
3. SPURS
4. G.S
5. SAC
6. HOU
7. LAL
8. MIN
9. DEN
10. DAL
11. UTAH
12. N.O
13. MEM
14. OKC
15. POR

[dark_lord]

btw,  i thought this was tough to vote on.  i think in a lot of cases teams could be moved up or down a couple slots bc they are close with the other teams near them. 

i hope no one is hurt by my vote and understands it was completely objective.  unfortunately, not everyone can be in first place and not everyone can make the playoffs.

[ChampKind]

btw,  i thought this was tough to vote on.  i think in a lot of cases teams could be moved up or down a couple slots bc they are close with the other teams near them. 

i hope no one is hurt by my vote and understands it was completely objective.  unfortunately, not everyone can be in first place and not everyone can make the playoffs.

Thanks for the input, man. I think this year's draft is a lot friendlier than last year's, so I think you'll have a better experience. I totally agree that the rankings are extremely difficult this year - there are a lot of good teams.

[Rondo2287]

i was told to post my vote by KC in this thread.  are we supposed to do that?

i have no problem posting it, but i dont want people grilling me why i voted the way i do causing petty drama bc their feelings are all hurt bc i didnt vote a particular team as high as they thought it should be. 

It's completely optional.  If you don't want to discuss your picks, I'd say just keep it secret.

I was intending to show enthusiasm for the idea, not demanding it. Do what you feel like DL!

oh, i know.  i understand u guys put a lot of time and energy into it so u want to know what other people think, especially outsiders not involved in the process.

screw it.....here it is, lol.

Eastern Conf:
1. TOR
2. ORL
3. CHI
4. ATL
5. MIL
6. CHAR
7. IND
8. WASH
9. MIA
10. NY
11. DET
12. CLE
13. BOS
14. NJ
15. PHI


Western Conf.
1. LA CLIPS
2. PHX
3. SPURS
4. G.S
5. SAC
6. HOU
7. LAL
8. MIN
9. DEN
10. DAL
11. UTAH
12. N.O
13. MEM
14. OKC
15. POR

Really Surprised by Toronto in first place.  Most people dont have them making the playoffs.  Even their Gm admits they have a substantial lack of depth.  Really interesting.

[dark_lord]

i was told to post my vote by KC in this thread.  are we supposed to do that?

i have no problem posting it, but i dont want people grilling me why i voted the way i do causing petty drama bc their feelings are all hurt bc i didnt vote a particular team as high as they thought it should be. 

It's completely optional.  If you don't want to discuss your picks, I'd say just keep it secret.

I was intending to show enthusiasm for the idea, not demanding it. Do what you feel like DL!

oh, i know.  i understand u guys put a lot of time and energy into it so u want to know what other people think, especially outsiders not involved in the process.

screw it.....here it is, lol.

Eastern Conf:
1. TOR
2. ORL
3. CHI
4. ATL
5. MIL
6. CHAR
7. IND
8. WASH
9. MIA
10. NY
11. DET
12. CLE
13. BOS
14. NJ
15. PHI


Western Conf.
1. LA CLIPS
2. PHX
3. SPURS
4. G.S
5. SAC
6. HOU
7. LAL
8. MIN
9. DEN
10. DAL
11. UTAH
12. N.O
13. MEM
14. OKC
15. POR

Really Surprised by Toronto in first place.  Most people dont have them making the playoffs.  Even their Gm admits they have a substantial lack of depth.  Really interesting.

not that interesting to me