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[nickagneta]

East

1. Chicago
2. Washington
3. Milwakee
4. Charlotte
5. New York
6. Orlando
7. Toronto
8. New Jersey

You might be like the only guy that thinks the Atlantic deserves three teams in the top 9 in the East, I'm assuming you would have had Miami in the playoffs somewhere.

Do you want to explain that?

I also think there will be 2 Atlantic teams in the top 9. I'll explain it if you like.

1) I think this is going to be the year Oden lasts more than 50 games. He'll still miss some games here or there (tendinitis from playing beer pong?) and he'll be maybe the most dominant big in the conference at times.

2) I can't in good faith keep out a team that has Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, and David Lee from the top 10 in the conference, not with Jameer Nelson manning the point. They're going to be weak at the 5, even when Perkins comes back (probably not at full strength at all next season), but I still like them for the playoff bubble.

I have no problem seeing 2 teams from the Atlantic in the top 9. I can see where reasonable arguments can be made for two Atlantic teams making the playoffs though I don't see that happening.

3?

That confuses me. Given the depth of quality in the Southeast and the 3 very good teams in the Central, I just find it hard to see 3 Atlantic teams in the top 9 of a ballot.

[riah32]

I think Boston is being under appreciated.

[Roy H.]

I think Boston is being under appreciated.

Rating all the teams in the East, where would you slot Boston, riah?

[indeedproceed]

Everyone agrees with my vote?

To provide a real answer to your question, I thought you had Toronto a little high in the East, and perhaps Jersey a little low.

For the West, I can see a vote for Golden State to make the playoffs (although, ahead of Houston?), although I just couldn't place that much faith in Splitter and Randolph. I had OKC ranked there, and GSW in the bottom third.

The biggest problem i have with Houston is Diaw+Hickson and Dalembert+Zaza pairing. In your conference you're going to face Tim Duncan, Dwight Howard, Yao Ming, Pau Gasol, Al Horford, Z-Bo, Boozer, etc...3 times minimum each. If you didn't have to compete with so many gifted offensive big men I would rank you higher, but those are matchups you're behind on every game.

[Lucky17]

Everyone agrees with my vote?

To provide a real answer to your question, I thought you had Toronto a little high in the East, and perhaps Jersey a little low.

For the West, I can see a vote for Golden State to make the playoffs (although, ahead of Houston?), although I just couldn't place that much faith in Splitter and Randolph. I had OKC ranked there, and GSW in the bottom third.

The biggest problem i have with Houston is Diaw+Hickson and Dalembert+Zaza pairing. In your conference you're going to face Tim Duncan, Dwight Howard, Yao Ming, Pau Gasol, Al Horford, Z-Bo, Boozer, etc...3 times minimum each. If you didn't have to compete with so many gifted offensive big men I would rank you higher, but those are matchups you're behind on every game.

Good points.

But do you feel Golden State has better bigs to match up against the same conference foes?

[indeedproceed]

I think Boston is being under appreciated.

I posted this, you never responded to it:

riah, regarding your team:

I think that you have a case that your team is being under valued.

obviously you built around rondo and bogut. id look at comparing your team to last season's bucks, who were capable of beating any team on any given night while bogut was healthy.

there is some fear from the bucks camp now because no one knows for sure when bogut will be back.

that aside, rondo's better than jennings, so that's a good place to start.

I don't think anyone is buying your chemistry or 2 guards with problematic crawford being the only one who will be active starting opening night, as jr smith has proven to be a class a knucklehead, and brandon rush isn't doing himself any favours using the gange during the season enough to get caught 3 times (that's bad).

rondo's a silent leader, and if you search 'bogut high five' on youtube, you'll see bogut is a better player than a leader also.

to me it looks like you have a rudderless ship. a talented, potentially very good ship, but rudderless all the same.

[riah32]

I think Boston is being under appreciated.

Rating all the teams in the East, where would you slot Boston, riah?

4-7 range probably...if you do the math and assume all my starters and smith and bynum average the same amount of pts per game as last year thats 86.6 pts per game not to mention the rest of my bench who can score. I would pry only need like 12-16 pts from players 8-13. Very doable.

[StartOrien]

I think Boston is being under appreciated.

Rating all the teams in the East, where would you slot Boston, riah?

4-7 range probably...if you do the math and assume all my starters and smith and bynum average the same amount of pts per game as last year thats 86.6 pts per game not to mention the rest of my bench who can score. I would pry only need like 12-16 pts from players 8-13. Very doable.

Rank em!

[indeedproceed]

Everyone agrees with my vote?

To provide a real answer to your question, I thought you had Toronto a little high in the East, and perhaps Jersey a little low.

For the West, I can see a vote for Golden State to make the playoffs (although, ahead of Houston?), although I just couldn't place that much faith in Splitter and Randolph. I had OKC ranked there, and GSW in the bottom third.

The biggest problem i have with Houston is Diaw+Hickson and Dalembert+Zaza pairing. In your conference you're going to face Tim Duncan, Dwight Howard, Yao Ming, Pau Gasol, Al Horford, Z-Bo, Boozer, etc...3 times minimum each. If you didn't have to compete with so many gifted offensive big men I would rank you higher, but those are matchups you're behind on every game.

Good points.

But do you feel Golden State has better bigs to match up against the same conference foes?

I think Splitter will be able to play better defense right away, and be a better defensive leader than Dalembert. Dalembert's biggest enemy is himself, and I don't think its warranted to expect too much of him just because his coaches change (he's already had what, 8 coaches in his career already?). He might turn his career around and become the player everyone hopes he will be, but the guy couldn't even shut up long enough to play one game with the canadian national team, so I'm taking the low road with him for now.  

[StartOrien]

Vote Gorillaz!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4UtbrbsrjY&ob=av2e

[Who]

This was my vote

Eastern Conference

(1) Chicago
(2) Washington
(3) New York
(4) Orlando
(5) Boston
(6) Milwaukee
(7) Indiana
[8] Atlanta

(9) Toronto
(10) Miami
(11) Cleveland
(12) Detroit
(13) Charlotte/Seattle
(14) New Jersey
(15) Phily

Western Conference

(1) Utah
(2) Phoenix
(3) Sacramento
(4) Denver
(5) Houston Rockets
(6) New Orleans
(7) LA Clippers
[8] LA Lakers

(9) Minnesota
(10) San Antonio
(11) Dallas
(12) Memphis
(13) Oklahoma City
(14) Portland

[Rondo2287]

This was my vote

Eastern Conference

(1) Chicago
(2) Washington
(3) New York
(4) Orlando
(5) Boston
(6) Milwaukee
(7) Indiana
[8] Atlanta

(9) Toronto
(10) Miami
(11) Cleveland
(12) Detroit
(13) Charlotte/Seattle
(14) New Jersey
(15) Phily

Western Conference

(1) Utah
(2) Phoenix
(3) Sacramento
(4) Denver
(5) Houston Rockets
(6) New Orleans
(7) LA Clippers
[8] LA Lakers

(9) Minnesota
(10) San Antonio
(11) Dallas
(12) Memphis
(13) Oklahoma City
(14) Portland

Interesting first time ive seen Milwaukee outside the top 3

[jgod213]

East

1. Chicago
2. Washington
3. Milwakee
4. Charlotte
5. New York
6. Orlando
7. Toronto
8. New Jersey

You might be like the only guy that thinks the Atlantic deserves three teams in the top 9 in the East, I'm assuming you would have had Miami in the playoffs somewhere.

Do you want to explain that?

I also think there will be 2 Atlantic teams in the top 9. I'll explain it if you like.

1) I think this is going to be the year Oden lasts more than 50 games. He'll still miss some games here or there (tendinitis from playing beer pong?) and he'll be maybe the most dominant big in the conference at times.

2) I can't in good faith keep out a team that has Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, and David Lee from the top 10 in the conference, not with Jameer Nelson manning the point. They're going to be weak at the 5, even when Perkins comes back (probably not at full strength at all next season), but I still like them for the playoff bubble.

I have no problem seeing 2 teams from the Atlantic in the top 9. I can see where reasonable arguments can be made for two Atlantic teams making the playoffs though I don't see that happening.

3?

That confuses me. Given the depth of quality in the Southeast and the 3 very good teams in the Central, I just find it hard to see 3 Atlantic teams in the top 9 of a ballot.

Sure, i'd love to explain...

I think that ultimately, the Southeast is so strong that in the end teams are really going to be beating up on eachother, which will leave room for other teams to step in.

If i could of voted Miami in a spot, i would've put us at 7th, thus bumping Tornonto to 8th and New Jersey out of the top 8 - so in that sense it would only leave two Atlantic teams in the top 8.

Although i like Orlando and Atlanta, i think that they suffer the most due to the competative SE division.  Durant can't will Atlanta past all of the SE by himself (tho he would give it his best shot).  Orlando is deep, but i see the lack of a true PG (and the decomposed body of VC) as a problem.

Its pretty dissapointing to me to see people leaving a team with Nash/Jax/Odom out of the playoffs entirely - esp when they're being coached by the best in the game.

[nickagneta]

This was my vote

Eastern Conference

(1) Chicago
(2) Washington
(3) New York
(4) Orlando
(5) Boston
(6) Milwaukee
(7) Indiana
[8] Atlanta

(9) Toronto
(10) Miami
(11) Cleveland
(12) Detroit
(13) Charlotte/Seattle
(14) New Jersey
(15) Phily

Western Conference

(1) Utah
(2) Phoenix
(3) Sacramento
(4) Denver
(5) Houston Rockets
(6) New Orleans
(7) LA Clippers
[8] LA Lakers

(9) Minnesota
(10) San Antonio
(11) Dallas
(12) Memphis
(13) Oklahoma City
(14) Portland

Interesting first time ive seen Milwaukee outside the top 3

That's okay.

What do you think KC is thinking right now? 13th?!?!?!

[indeedproceed]

This was my vote

Eastern Conference

(1) Chicago
(2) Washington
(3) New York
(4) Orlando
(5) Boston
(6) Milwaukee
(7) Indiana
[8] Atlanta

(9) Toronto
(10) Miami
(11) Cleveland
(12) Detroit
(13) Charlotte/Seattle
(14) New Jersey
(15) Phily

Western Conference

(1) Utah
(2) Phoenix
(3) Sacramento
(4) Denver
(5) Houston Rockets
(6) New Orleans
(7) LA Clippers
[8] LA Lakers

(9) Minnesota
(10) San Antonio
(11) Dallas
(12) Memphis
(13) Oklahoma City
(14) Portland

Interesting first time ive seen Milwaukee outside the top 3

Oh how easily we get cocky......