Roy, I know nothing of Marquis' off court experience, I'll take at face value that he comes from the streets and understand all that can entail at it's worst.
But honestly, that doesn't mean anything to me, as you also said, once he steps on a court. I grew up playing agaisnt a bunch of kids who spent their entire youth on scallop dragging boats, digging clams or hauling Lobster traps since they could see over the side of the boat. You want tough, you'll find it there. Toughness isn't where you're from, it's who you are, or aren't. Ask Bill Laimbeer or Michael Jordan how worried they would be about any number of players from whatever rough back ground they came from....Rodman, Barkeley, Bird....not from the mean streets...
Bball, you win, you're right, Marquis is a stud and a great back up for Pierce. I have no issue whatsoever with Marquis as Pierce's back up. He is tall enough, strong enough, mentally aggressive enough and he never gets injured so I know he will be a great, solid back up for Pierce, especially when Pierce needs rest or is injured himself and Marquis needs to guard the bigger small forwards and hang and bang on the borads with them. He will crush them, they will cower simply due to his presence. I can tell you this, LeBron, Artest, Kobe? They see Daniels coming, they see an appetizer. They see TAllen coming, they see a mini pitbull. How that difference is lost on anyone is beyond my comprehension.
Another question: Do you think all lines of argument never deviate whatsoever from an original statement? They all do. If I say Marquis is too samll and you ask me if he's too soft as well, the obvious answer to that question is a resounding yes. If you ask me if there are any other reasons he's inadequate at the position, you get the laundry list.
TAllen is undersized, which is WHY i have stated I'd like
another, BIGGER small forward with TA, like Harangody or anyone with some decent size and physical toughness.
But yes, to answer your question for about the 100th time, if I had a choice between TAllen and Daniels, I'd choose TAllen every day of the week and twice on Sundays.
The actual height of the guy doesn't matter to me!!!! That's like asking me if I think Charles Barkeley is too small to play the PF spot? Or Dennis Rodman is too small to guard Shaq. The answer to both is "NO" BECAUSE, they ARE TOUGH, PHYSICAL GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you are going to comb over every word I've written, do it right. I STATED Big baby was undersized form a length standpoint but he can MAKE UP for it with his STRENGTH AND PHYSICAL TOUGHNESS, as can TALLEN.
MARQUIS DANIELS CANNOT DO THIS! HE DOES NOT HAVE THAT CALLING CARD!!!
I have said already that TA and Big Baby are both undersized in some way, but they can both make up for it because of some similar traits they both have which are:
1. an actual sack between their legs
2. unusaul physical strength for the size in a pound for pound context.
Christ, watch TAllen play, guys, even big men, go the other way when they meet him in the air or at the rim. Big Baby body slammed Shaquille O'neal in the past for ****. Marquis Daniels couldn't body slam Shirley Temple.
IMHO anyone who doesn't understand why Marquis ( an off guard) is a very subpar back up for Paul Pierce doens't really understand baketball or hasn't played much of it.
I really just don't get what part of my argument you find so difficult to follow.
It seems to me you know it's a losing argument so you're just trying to find any minutia of contradictory statements.
The bottom line is Marquis is a great back up off guard for Ray along with Wafer, but because he's too small, too soft and too weak to be a sufficient Small forward, he blows as Pierce's back up. There, that's my argument.