Bill Simmons-Rondo for Paul trade idea

[Mr October]

The proposed Paul deals make a lot of sense for both teams. I don't want to loose Rondo... but those ideas make a lot of sense.

[Birdbrain]

Via his twitter...

CP3 waited too long: had he gone public last month, NYK-NJ-Dal had the cap room/assets to deal. The most realistic matches now: Hou or Bos.

Rondo + Sheed's waivable deal + '11 no. 1 + 3 mill for CP3 + Posey. RT @joshlacey33: Let's hear your idea of a paul to boston

Can't decide. CP's knee scares me but we lost Finals b/c Kobe played 8 ft off Rondo. RT @stevensonpj: Would you rather have Paul than Rondo?

Boston has the hammer offer if they want to make it: Rondo, Perkins, Sheed's ghost, No. 1 + 3m for CP3 + Okafor. NO has to say yes to that.

God this tool overrates Chris Paul.  I love all the 'boston' fans looking to move Rondo at break neck speed.  Pathetic.

His knowledge of the game is that of your basic 15 yr old.

[Fafnir]

Via his twitter...

CP3 waited too long: had he gone public last month, NYK-NJ-Dal had the cap room/assets to deal. The most realistic matches now: Hou or Bos.

Rondo + Sheed's waivable deal + '11 no. 1 + 3 mill for CP3 + Posey. RT @joshlacey33: Let's hear your idea of a paul to boston

Can't decide. CP's knee scares me but we lost Finals b/c Kobe played 8 ft off Rondo. RT @stevensonpj: Would you rather have Paul than Rondo?

Boston has the hammer offer if they want to make it: Rondo, Perkins, Sheed's ghost, No. 1 + 3m for CP3 + Okafor. NO has to say yes to that.

God this tool overrates Chris Paul.  I love all the 'boston' fans looking to move Rondo at break neck speed.  Pathetic.

What?

So I'm not a Boston fan because I'd love to trade Rondo for CP3 because I think it'd make the Celtics better? Is Who not a Boston fan? Is Roy Hobbs not a Boston fan? I could go on....

Does holding the opinion that CP3 is better than Rondo and would make the Celtics better disqualify us all from being Celtic fans?

[Birdbrain]

Via his twitter...

CP3 waited too long: had he gone public last month, NYK-NJ-Dal had the cap room/assets to deal. The most realistic matches now: Hou or Bos.

Rondo + Sheed's waivable deal + '11 no. 1 + 3 mill for CP3 + Posey. RT @joshlacey33: Let's hear your idea of a paul to boston

Can't decide. CP's knee scares me but we lost Finals b/c Kobe played 8 ft off Rondo. RT @stevensonpj: Would you rather have Paul than Rondo?

Boston has the hammer offer if they want to make it: Rondo, Perkins, Sheed's ghost, No. 1 + 3m for CP3 + Okafor. NO has to say yes to that.

God this tool overrates Chris Paul.  I love all the 'boston' fans looking to move Rondo at break neck speed.  Pathetic.

What?

So I'm not a Boston fan because I'd love to trade Rondo for CP3 because I think it'd make the Celtics better? Is Who not a Boston fan? Is Roy Hobbs not a Boston fan? I could go on....

Does holding the opinion that CP3 is better than Rondo and would make the Celtics better?

Ban me if you like I'll stand by my post.  It's pathetic.

Not too mention the obvious fact that Collison is their PG of the future.  My 8 yr old nephew understands the NBA better than Simmons.

[Roy Hobbs]

Via his twitter...

CP3 waited too long: had he gone public last month, NYK-NJ-Dal had the cap room/assets to deal. The most realistic matches now: Hou or Bos.

Rondo + Sheed's waivable deal + '11 no. 1 + 3 mill for CP3 + Posey. RT @joshlacey33: Let's hear your idea of a paul to boston

Can't decide. CP's knee scares me but we lost Finals b/c Kobe played 8 ft off Rondo. RT @stevensonpj: Would you rather have Paul than Rondo?

Boston has the hammer offer if they want to make it: Rondo, Perkins, Sheed's ghost, No. 1 + 3m for CP3 + Okafor. NO has to say yes to that.

God this tool overrates Chris Paul.  I love all the 'boston' fans looking to move Rondo at break neck speed.  Pathetic.

What?

So I'm not a Boston fan because I'd love to trade Rondo for CP3 because I think it'd make the Celtics better? Is Who not a Boston fan? Is Roy Hobbs not a Boston fan? I could go on....

Does holding the opinion that CP3 is better than Rondo and would make the Celtics better?

Ban me if you like I'll stand by my post.  It's pathetic.

I didn't see where anybody threatened to ban you.  Having a contrary opinion isn't against our rules.  

However, suggesting that members aren't "real fans" and calling others "pathetic" is.  Please confine your posts to giving your own opinions, rather than attacking other fans.

[Birdbrain]

Via his twitter...

CP3 waited too long: had he gone public last month, NYK-NJ-Dal had the cap room/assets to deal. The most realistic matches now: Hou or Bos.

Rondo + Sheed's waivable deal + '11 no. 1 + 3 mill for CP3 + Posey. RT @joshlacey33: Let's hear your idea of a paul to boston

Can't decide. CP's knee scares me but we lost Finals b/c Kobe played 8 ft off Rondo. RT @stevensonpj: Would you rather have Paul than Rondo?

Boston has the hammer offer if they want to make it: Rondo, Perkins, Sheed's ghost, No. 1 + 3m for CP3 + Okafor. NO has to say yes to that.

God this tool overrates Chris Paul.  I love all the 'boston' fans looking to move Rondo at break neck speed.  Pathetic.

What?

So I'm not a Boston fan because I'd love to trade Rondo for CP3 because I think it'd make the Celtics better? Is Who not a Boston fan? Is Roy Hobbs not a Boston fan? I could go on....

Does holding the opinion that CP3 is better than Rondo and would make the Celtics better?

Ban me if you like I'll stand by my post.  It's pathetic.

I didn't see where anybody threatened to ban you.  Having a contrary opinion isn't against our rules.  

However, suggesting that members aren't "real fans" and calling others "pathetic" is.  Please confine your posts to giving your own opinions, rather than attacking other fans.

The 'pathetic' portion which I considered essential to my post was what I assumed was a ban able offense.  I just find the whole concept of looking to Trade the guy most of you thought was our future because some loser in NO (under contract) decides he's not getting enough limelight and wants out, to be exactly that.  Bill Simmons hasn't been real been C's fan for years. He only plays one during the good times.

[kozlodoev]

He has the same amount of all defense selections as Rondo.

Besides Rondo also gets a lot of steals. CP3 is an excellent defensive PG by any measure, I don't get why you think he's a poor one.

Rondo changes beavior of PGs just by being near, much in the same way Dwight Howard affects drives to the basket. Chris Paul... he just gets a lot of steals.

I may be wrong, but I am just never worried about Chris Paul shutting down anyone. Or I am maybe I am just biased from watching games like this one:

http://www.youtube.com/v/Mvu01FArM2E&hl=en_US

[Roy Hobbs]

He has the same amount of all defense selections as Rondo.

Besides Rondo also gets a lot of steals. CP3 is an excellent defensive PG by any measure, I don't get why you think he's a poor one.

Rondo changes beavior of PGs just by being near, much in the same way Dwight Howard affects drives to the basket. Chris Paul... he just gets a lot of steals.

I may be wrong, but I am just never worried about Chris Paul shutting down anyone. Or I am maybe I am just biased from watching games like this one:

http://www.youtube.com/v/Mvu01FArM2E&hl=en_US

That's the one game in Rondo's career in which he's outscored Chris Paul.  In their last three meetings, Rondo has gone for 10, 6, and 6 points, on 10-for-30 (33.3%) shooting. 

[celtsfan84]

My take - Rajon Rondo is a terrific player on both ends, young, on a great contract, and we should be happy to have him.  Few players in the NBA are better.

Chris Paul is one of those players.

Not only did Kobe's ability to play off of Rondo mess up Boston's team offense (it is a team game after all), but it allowed Kobe to be closer to the boards and help the Lakers dominate us here.  Kobe had 15 rebounds in Game 7.  Does not happen if he is away from the basket guarding Chris Paul.

Also, we are often afraid to put the ball in Rondo's hands at the end of games because of his awful free throw shooting.  As great as he is, he is often a liability.

Wondering where the information that Chris Paul is a bad defensive player comes from?  Just because he gets steals?  Getting steals alone doesn't make you a great defensive player but it doesn't make you a bad one.  Pippen, Jordan, Alvin Robertson, Rondo himself, they all have high steal numbers.

With Rajon Rondo we have 1 championship.  Great.  Glad to have one.  With Chris Paul we almost certainly would have 2.

Keep in mind that Rajon has played with 3 hall of famers just past their primes while Paul has played with 0.

[soap07]

I just find the whole concept of looking to Trade the guy most of you thought was our future because some loser in NO (under contract) decides he's not getting enough limelight and wants out, to be exactly that.  Bill Simmons hasn't been real been C's fan for years. He only plays one during the good times.

When did Chris Paul say he wanted a trade due to a lack of limelight?

And if it takes being a fake Celtic fan to be willing to trade Rondo for Paul, is it Halloween yet?

[Fafnir]

My take - Rajon Rondo is a terrific player on both ends, young, on a great contract, and we should be happy to have him.  Few players in the NBA are better.

Chris Paul is one of those players.

Not only did Kobe's ability to play off of Rondo mess up Boston's team offense (it is a team game after all), but it allowed Kobe to be closer to the boards and help the Lakers dominate us here.  Kobe had 15 rebounds in Game 7.  Does not happen if he is away from the basket guarding Chris Paul.

Also, we are often afraid to put the ball in Rondo's hands at the end of games because of his awful free throw shooting.  As great as he is, he is often a liability.

Wondering where the information that Chris Paul is a bad defensive player comes from?  Just because he gets steals?  Getting steals alone doesn't make you a great defensive player but it doesn't make you a bad one.  Pippen, Jordan, Alvin Robertson, Rondo himself, they all have high steal numbers.

With Rajon Rondo we have 1 championship.  Great.  Glad to have one.  With Chris Paul we almost certainly would have 2.

Keep in mind that Rajon has played with 3 hall of famers just past their primes while Paul has played with 0.

TP for an excellent post, sums up my thoughts.

Sadly I don't anticipate CP3 in green, good thing we have Rondo!

[Birdbrain]

Do I have to actually state how different they are as players? And how Rondo’s scoring is not essential and actually is a detriment to the overall team success?  Seriously more points?

[Birdbrain]

My take - Rajon Rondo is a terrific player on both ends, young, on a great contract, and we should be happy to have him.  Few players in the NBA are better.

Chris Paul is one of those players.

Not only did Kobe's ability to play off of Rondo mess up Boston's team offense (it is a team game after all), but it allowed Kobe to be closer to the boards and help the Lakers dominate us here.  Kobe had 15 rebounds in Game 7.  Does not happen if he is away from the basket guarding Chris Paul.

Also, we are often afraid to put the ball in Rondo's hands at the end of games because of his awful free throw shooting.  As great as he is, he is often a liability.

Wondering where the information that Chris Paul is a bad defensive player comes from?  Just because he gets steals?  Getting steals alone doesn't make you a great defensive player but it doesn't make you a bad one.  Pippen, Jordan, Alvin Robertson, Rondo himself, they all have high steal numbers.

With Rajon Rondo we have 1 championship.  Great.  Glad to have one.  With Chris Paul we almost certainly would have 2.

Keep in mind that Rajon has played with 3 hall of famers just past their primes while Paul has played with 0.

I love the revisionism.  The dude dominated Cleveland unlike anything Chris Paul would have ever done.  He essentially made the Cavs and LJ quit with his game 4 performance which is so far in past that everyone forgets..

[Snakehead]

My take - Rajon Rondo is a terrific player on both ends, young, on a great contract, and we should be happy to have him.  Few players in the NBA are better.

Chris Paul is one of those players.

Not only did Kobe's ability to play off of Rondo mess up Boston's team offense (it is a team game after all), but it allowed Kobe to be closer to the boards and help the Lakers dominate us here.  Kobe had 15 rebounds in Game 7.  Does not happen if he is away from the basket guarding Chris Paul.

Also, we are often afraid to put the ball in Rondo's hands at the end of games because of his awful free throw shooting.  As great as he is, he is often a liability.

Wondering where the information that Chris Paul is a bad defensive player comes from?  Just because he gets steals?  Getting steals alone doesn't make you a great defensive player but it doesn't make you a bad one.  Pippen, Jordan, Alvin Robertson, Rondo himself, they all have high steal numbers.

With Rajon Rondo we have 1 championship.  Great.  Glad to have one. With Chris Paul we almost certainly would have 2.

Keep in mind that Rajon has played with 3 hall of famers just past their primes while Paul has played with 0.

I love the revisionism.  The dude dominated Cleveland unlike anything Chris Paul would have ever done.  He essentially made the Cavs and LJ quit with his game 4 performance which is so far in past that everyone forgets..

What did he revise?

Apparently you hang your hat on the 2nd Round?  That was a great series for Rondo but I am far more concerned about how we lost the Finals.  Rondo's inability to shoot from the field and the FT line certainly did not help us.  Was he the main culprit?  No not at all, and in fact was the last to give in.  With Perk healthy and Ray hitting a couple of his threes we win the title.  But regardless, the sag off defense and poor shooting of Rondo are major problems with his game that the Lakers exploited on their way to the title.

[Fafnir]

My take - Rajon Rondo is a terrific player on both ends, young, on a great contract, and we should be happy to have him.  Few players in the NBA are better.

Chris Paul is one of those players.

Not only did Kobe's ability to play off of Rondo mess up Boston's team offense (it is a team game after all), but it allowed Kobe to be closer to the boards and help the Lakers dominate us here.  Kobe had 15 rebounds in Game 7.  Does not happen if he is away from the basket guarding Chris Paul.

Also, we are often afraid to put the ball in Rondo's hands at the end of games because of his awful free throw shooting.  As great as he is, he is often a liability.

Wondering where the information that Chris Paul is a bad defensive player comes from?  Just because he gets steals?  Getting steals alone doesn't make you a great defensive player but it doesn't make you a bad one.  Pippen, Jordan, Alvin Robertson, Rondo himself, they all have high steal numbers.

With Rajon Rondo we have 1 championship.  Great.  Glad to have one.  With Chris Paul we almost certainly would have 2.

Keep in mind that Rajon has played with 3 hall of famers just past their primes while Paul has played with 0.

I love the revisionism.  The dude dominated Cleveland unlike anything Chris Paul would have ever done.  He essentially made the Cavs and LJ quit with his game 4 performance which is so far in past that everyone forgets..

How is this revisionist?

Rondo played great and propelled us past Cleveland, he wasn't able to maintain that level of play against Orlando and the Lakers though in those series.