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Re: Someone please tell me why we want Marquis back?
« Reply #45 on: July 17, 2010, 04:00:57 PM »

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And let's also remember the piece of mind that Marquis would give us.  While most of us would like to see him be the 4th wing, we could at least start the season with him as the primary option.  This means that Danny doesn't have to rush to trade Sheed's deal if the market isn't good right this second.  
I see where you are coming from with the not rushing out to use the Sheed dollars,but can you honestly trust a player that always turns up hurt during each season he's played in the NBA...and usually its long stretches that he's out.(averages 57.3games a season).He hasn't  played a full NBA season in the 7seasons in the NBA.Maybe Danny and Wyc are a little hesitate about bringing him back.  

That is an issue.  However, it looks like we're going to need a wing from the Sheed trade and a wing via free agency.  Marquis might just be the best option out there on the free agent market.  There are argument for a couple of other guys (like Butler); however, there's no guarantee they'll be there for the minimum.  With Marquis, we can at least offer him more than the minimum, which is something. 

As far as injuries, all we really need is for him to be healthy for the playoffs.  If he goes down for 15 games in the regular season, we can live with it as long as Doc will forget about wins and just stick to limited minutes for Paul and Ray.

Re: Re-signing Marquis Daniels: Pros and Cons (merged)
« Reply #46 on: July 17, 2010, 04:14:55 PM »

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I question his offensive game, to not have enough handle to back out and give himself options. Instead he threw his head into Gasol's chest like someone who wasn't meant to play in the Finals. Yes, he has TA's foot speed and can play defense, but he had his chance, in the Finals,and let us down.

Re: Re-signing Marquis Daniels: Pros and Cons (merged)
« Reply #47 on: July 17, 2010, 04:25:49 PM »

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The real reason why Daniels suffered is that we really couldn't afford to have both him and Tony Allen in the rotation. Daniels is a better shooter than Allen but he is still _not_ a jump shooter. He actually has a pretty nice post-up game for a guy his size, and if there is some space there, he can get to the rim.

Therefore, if we manage to sign a spot-up shooting wing, I think people will be surprised with how nicely Daniels is going to fit in the rotation.

And really, there is no loss there. We're not really short on roster spots, and there aren't too many veteran minimum signings that would be better than Daniels.
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Re: Re-signing Marquis Daniels: Pros and Cons (merged)
« Reply #48 on: July 17, 2010, 04:35:23 PM »

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I don't buy that Daniels was a better player before his injury. I felt that his best game was his first one or two after he came  back. His overall problem is that he is a below average outside shooter. We need someone in his role who can stick the outside jumper, especially from 3.  He also lacks the energy we need out of that position. He plays too much like an old guy. We have enough real old guys. That is why I liked Tony, despite his lack of IQ and outside J: he played young and aggressive, and really clicked with Rondo.

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« Reply #49 on: July 17, 2010, 06:25:41 PM »

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I definitely like Quisy on the court better when Nate is also out there. 

Actually, with BBD, Nate, and Quisy, plus another spot-up shooter (T-Mac?) and I think there is a bench that could play meaningful minutes as a unit.  We needed scorers with the 2nd unit last year.  Perhaps a combination of Nate and T-Mac with BBD and Quisy being glue guys would really work?  I  might consider going small and playing BBD at the 5 with perhaps James Singleton at PF? 

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« Reply #50 on: July 17, 2010, 07:59:27 PM »

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one year deal with the 120% pay raise they can give him. He will play hard for a bigger contract the following because he knows last year didn't help his cause with the injury and being stuck behind TA in the lineup. At that price he will fill that role nicely.

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« Reply #51 on: July 17, 2010, 08:25:58 PM »

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Initially I was dead set against him. But we may not have any other viable options as of today. Brewer gone and looks like Barnes is too. Plus count me among those doubtful regarding our chances of getting Josh Howard.  I suppose we could do worse, and maybe he will be able to be more productive next to Nate, who will have to be covered for his outside shot, giving MQD more chances to take it to the hole, where he excels.  I can hear Doc whispering in Danny's ear, though: "anyone but Marquis."

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« Reply #52 on: July 17, 2010, 08:27:57 PM »

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Seems like people keep forgetting Doc only plays 8 or 9 players.  Quis would be forced to play the 3 this year with Nate and Bradley getting run at 1 and 2, and that I think would magnify his weakness'.  We need someone that can muscle Bron Kobe and the like.
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« Reply #53 on: July 17, 2010, 09:23:51 PM »

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I wonder how he would do if he wasn't asked to be the PG? 



I wouldn't have an issue with another one year contract.

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« Reply #54 on: July 17, 2010, 10:23:51 PM »

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i love marquis!  he played GREAT until he got injured, and i didn't understand why doc benched him.

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« Reply #55 on: July 17, 2010, 10:43:22 PM »

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I want Daniels back next year. TA just took advantage of his injury and took his time from him. Daniels is already a proven NBA player that is a very good role player, so why not have him back?

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« Reply #56 on: July 17, 2010, 11:48:30 PM »

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I want Daniels back next year. TA just took advantage of his injury and took his time from him. Daniels is already a proven NBA player that is a very good role player, so why not have him back?

All Marquis has proven is that he’s capable of letting his team down with injuries that seem to ride out forever.

At the beginning of the year i said he was “everything we wish TA was” then he ended up being bench warmer.

Pass.

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« Reply #57 on: July 18, 2010, 12:01:25 AM »

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I want Daniels back next year. TA just took advantage of his injury and took his time from him. Daniels is already a proven NBA player that is a very good role player, so why not have him back?

All Marquis has proven is that he’s capable of letting his team down with injuries that seem to ride out forever.

At the beginning of the year i said he was “everything we wish TA was” then he ended up being bench warmer.

Pass.

I pass as well ... I heard a lot about what he could do, and what people expected him to do, but every time he was on the floor was tentative, and not remotely aggressive, or even assertive. He seems out-of-place in the NBA, and not ready for the pressures of playing on this big of a stage. All the potential in the world is worth nothing if you can't apply it. Time to let 'Quis move on.
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« Reply #58 on: July 18, 2010, 01:36:49 AM »

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Pro: He's affordable
Con: He's inadequate for the role we need. Pass.

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« Reply #59 on: July 18, 2010, 01:50:27 AM »

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My memory of Marquis is that he was playing really well for us when TA was hurt earlier this year...then, if my memory serves me, Marquis got that wrist injury in late december or early Jan? He didn't get back to us until like March, and by then we had a resurgent TA who was filling both Ray and Pierces' relief roles.

I thought Marquis Daniels played Really Well for us..not long range from 3, but a good slasher and defender.

If Danny does bring him back, I think Marquis could help us. With no TA, Marquis could easily fill his role, and add 2-3 inches in height as well.

As the free agents are being picked up, the better players for our team may be right under our noses....