Anyone else getting sick of the backlash towards Miami?

[Birdbrain]

I know I am.


Three really good players decided they want to play together.  I have no issue with that.

The way one of them went about it and the circus that has followed was awful.



But now, it is just getting annoying listening to everyone (radio, TV, newspapers, and blogs) complaining about it. 

Nope I'm quite fine with it.  It's been what a whole 5 days and you feel sorry for them already?  How about feeling sorry for our C's and the fact that like some have ranted they are struggling to get any talent to come to Boston... (rondo 3 HOFs) and we just lost Tony Allen (great talent, high BBIQ) and Sheed retired (everyone complained about him all year now he's a big loss).  I think Boston has better use for your sympathy...

Why would I be sorry for them? 


I am annoyed at the backlash that keeps going on. 


And I don't feel sorry for Boston.  I am looking forward to seeing them make a run at the title again this season.


I am eager to hear the players that will be added to the bench to replace Wallace (who physically needs to retire) and TA (high BBIQ?  since when). 


I am not feeling sorry for anyone.


But how many more times do we have to hear someone gush over or whine, whine, whine about the new Miami Heat? 


And yes, I still think a healthy Celtics team can (and will) beat this Miami team in the playoffs.

I guess I'm not following so well.  Sorry about that.

So you just hate the story?  Oh me too.  ESPN has gone from promoting it, too destroying it and LJ, too lamenting the back lash on LJ...

TP for clarifying your point and correcting my ignorance.  Some of my post especially the portion about TA was sarcasm.  I have to stop using sarcasm it's not doing me or anyone else any favors.

I still don't have any problems with the back lash though because LJ deserves it.  It will be over soon enough though when they start destroying the NBA (except the C's).

Not just ESPN.

The talking heads on the radio. 

The fans whining about it on the radio and on the sports blog.

Aren't most sports radio stations linked to ESPN in some way?  It's their style to overplay something playing both sides until the horse is so dead it's a zombie horse.

It's only 5 days.  It will go away soon enough. 

[wdleehi]

I know I am.


Three really good players decided they want to play together.  I have no issue with that.

The way one of them went about it and the circus that has followed was awful.



But now, it is just getting annoying listening to everyone (radio, TV, newspapers, and blogs) complaining about it. 

Nope I'm quite fine with it.  It's been what a whole 5 days and you feel sorry for them already?  How about feeling sorry for our C's and the fact that like some have ranted they are struggling to get any talent to come to Boston... (rondo 3 HOFs) and we just lost Tony Allen (great talent, high BBIQ) and Sheed retired (everyone complained about him all year now he's a big loss).  I think Boston has better use for your sympathy...

Why would I be sorry for them? 


I am annoyed at the backlash that keeps going on. 


And I don't feel sorry for Boston.  I am looking forward to seeing them make a run at the title again this season.


I am eager to hear the players that will be added to the bench to replace Wallace (who physically needs to retire) and TA (high BBIQ?  since when). 


I am not feeling sorry for anyone.


But how many more times do we have to hear someone gush over or whine, whine, whine about the new Miami Heat? 


And yes, I still think a healthy Celtics team can (and will) beat this Miami team in the playoffs.

I guess I'm not following so well.  Sorry about that.

So you just hate the story?  Oh me too.  ESPN has gone from promoting it, too destroying it and LJ, too lamenting the back lash on LJ...

TP for clarifying your point and correcting my ignorance.  Some of my post especially the portion about TA was sarcasm.  I have to stop using sarcasm it's not doing me or anyone else any favors.

I still don't have any problems with the back lash though because LJ deserves it.  It will be over soon enough though when they start destroying the NBA (except the C's).

Not just ESPN.

The talking heads on the radio. 

The fans whining about it on the radio and on the sports blog.

Aren't most sports radio stations linked to ESPN in some way?  It's their style to overplay something playing both sides until the horse is so dead it's a zombie horse.

It's only 5 days.  It will go away soon enough. 

Not everyone.  I heard the ranting from NY the fan (I can actually pick it up at night here in VA and in NC's outer Banks)

The local DC station (the non owned by the Redskins ESPN abomination)

[vinnie]

I have seen a couple of posters comparing the Pierce/Ray/KG press conference to what we just saw in Miami with Wade/Bosh/LBJ:

First, I must have missed the fireworks and the big event they held at the Garden when KG and Ray were acquired.

Second, the situations are completely different. The Celtics traded for both Ray and KG and they did not happen simultaneously.

As for being tired of the backlash, I hope it continues forever. Pat Riley did a great job of clearing cap space, but he has always been a west coast, faker and a fraud in my opinion.

As for Lebron - Tool is the only word that comes to mind.

As for taking less money, that is correct. However, being in Miami, with no state tax, Lebron will make almost as much as if he took the max salary from a team in a city with a state tax, and Bosh will make more given that he was in high-tax Canada.

Again, Riley did a great job clearing the space, but this whole deal continues to stink to high heaven.

[wdleehi]

I have seen a couple of posters comparing the Pierce/Ray/KG press conference to what we just saw in Miami with Wade/Bosh/LBJ:

First, I must have missed the fireworks and the big event they held at the Garden when KG and Ray were acquired.

Second, the situations are completely different. The Celtics traded for both Ray and KG and they did not happen simultaneously.

As for being tired of the backlash, I hope it continues forever. Pat Riley did a great job of clearing cap space, but he has always been a west coast, faker and a fraud in my opinion.

As for Lebron - Tool is the only word that comes to mind.

As for taking less money, that is correct. However, being in Miami, with no state tax, Lebron will make almost as much as if he took the max salary from a team in a city with a state tax, and Bosh will make more given that he was in high-tax Canada.

Again, Riley did a great job clearing the space, but this whole deal continues to stink to high heaven.

I compared it to the pre-Lebron press conference with just Wade and Bosh.  Not the Lebron special and that big WWE entrance. 

[nba is the worst]

For me, hoping that LeQuit will have (bad) karma unfold going forward is different than a backlash.

First year, no depth will be an issue.

New CBA may kill the MLE, making the Heat's task harder.

Time will tell if this move will yield any 'chips...

[get_banners]

i think the heat will have serious financial issues moving forward once the new CBA is signed. 3 max players leaves them little wiggle room now. the new deal will be harsher, so this season might be their best chance to win.

[Finkelskyhook]

No

It's a trainwreck anyway.  Spoelstra will be VanGundy'd by Riley by mid-season.  The messiah will respect Riley about as much as he respected Davis.  Neither Wade nor the messiah will yield to the other.  It'll be hilarious to watch.

[CeltsAcumen]

I just cannot hate on Lebron for this free agent fiasco and his decision when ESPN covers the Brett Favre Minnesota Vikings signing by flying a team of reporters to Louisiana and stalking Favre while he plays catch with High school kids for over three months.

I love what the Heat did.  I have a lot of respect for Lebron, Bosh and Wade to get this done and for Riley having the balls to go out and achieve the unthinkable.

Cleveland is just a city of bad karma, bad attitudes and very little class.  So I could care less what happens to Dan Gilbert and his team.

[wiley]

I know I am.


Three really good players decided they want to play together.  I have no issue with that.

The way one of them went about it and the circus that has followed was awful.



But now, it is just getting annoying listening to everyone (radio, TV, newspapers, and blogs) complaining about it. 

Good Thread Idea and TP.  Very annoying....if it continues much longer it will dwarf how annoying Lebron's modus-operandi continues to be....

Also, if it doesn't work out, they will simply dissolve it, leaving a Miami team with Wade and Bosh and whoever they get in a Lebron trade, and the traded Lebron will most likely end up in a better situation, at least winning-wise, than if he had stayed in Cleveland.  Failure in Miami is not the end of anyone's career.  However, it would probably be good for the league (personal feeling).

Also agree with previous poster....I've got much more loathing for ESPN than for Lebron.

[Birdbrain]

For me, hoping that LeQuit will have (bad) karma unfold going forward is different than a backlash.

First year, no depth will be an issue.

New CBA may kill the MLE, making the Heat's task harder.

Time will tell if this move will yield any 'chips...

Aren't you a laker fan?  How does it feel to hear some Celtic fans say they would rather see the Lakers win against the Heat?

[MMacOH]

If Miami tampered (and I am pretty sure Windhorst has a lot more dirt on this) then they deserve all of the backlash they are getting.  Cheating is cheating, end of story.

I would have been fine with Lebron admitting he wasn't one of the greatest and signing with Miami if he would have done it with any sense of class.  But, he doesn't know what that word means and he doesn't care.  That's why I am mad  

[sk7326]

I know I am.


Three really good players decided they want to play together.  I have no issue with that.

The way one of them went about it and the circus that has followed was awful.



But now, it is just getting annoying listening to everyone (radio, TV, newspapers, and blogs) complaining about it. 

The people who are discussing LeBron's rights to do whatever miss the argument.  Nobody argues his right to go to Miami and have a Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants sort of friendship with Dream Team BFFs.

The only disappointment I have is that the best player since Jordan basically told the world he does not have the stomach for it.  He told the world he'd rather be Scottie Pippen than Michael Jordan.  That is just absolutely stunning to me. 

On the other hand, this is a guy who roots for the Cowboys and Yankees despite not being from there.  So being a frontrunner is in his blood - and probably the only way he would have left his hometown.

[lovely_20]

First off, TP to Bahku for posting exactly how I am feeling.  I have always liked DWade.  He doesn't come off as arrogant as some other guys.  And I haven't seen too much of Bosh to really have an opinion on him, other than I respect him as a player.  LeQueen...I'm not even gonna go there. 

On another note, I totally feel bad for the fans in Cleveland.  Not the owners and the team, per se, but the fans.  That city has such bad luck in the sporting world...

[Rondo_is_better]

I think the outrage at this is outrageous.

Lets, for example, look at Joe Johnson.  Dude took max money and crippled his own chances at ever winning a ring for extra money.

LBJ/Wade/Bosh all took less money for a shot at a ring..... isn't that like a noble thing to do in basketball???  I always thought so.  I still think so.

Had LBJ/Wade/Bosh all stayed home and took max contacts I would have been disgusted.

I like Lebron, Wade, and Bosh a lot more now then I did before.  They are actually sacrificing money for a chance to win.  Something that doesn't happen all that often.  Sure it happens to players as they get older and various other circumstances.  But never does it happen to players with youth in their prime.


Why are people mad at this? I read this whole thread and didn't see any valid reasons at all.

Ya'll a bit mad at how LBJ is a never ending hype machine?  Get over it, been that way for 7 years.  He gained my respect by taking less money and not wanting to be the man just wanting to get a ring.

Ya'll mad cause Bosh tweeted some dumb stuff?  Get over it... it's freaking twitter.... not a reason to around hating a guy who left money on the table for a chance at a ring.

So what are you mad at really?? That all of a sudden Boston's title chances have dwindled considerably?

Tough luck for us I guess, hate them though? No... I dont hate them, if anything I respect them all a little more for doing something we all said we would do if we were NBA players probably a million times.

I am a little tired of all the backlash they are getting.  It just shows you who is jealous and who just wants to be a hater.

So because some of us don't feel sorry for them, or aren't "sick of the back-lash", we're jealous and want to be haters?!? Sorry, but I take exception to that, (forgive me if I'm mis-interpreting).

Personally, I don't listen to much of the back-lash, because I've been through plenty of it as a Boston fan ... it comes with the territory, and teams who are our competition, aren't going to get my pity because they get it, too.

Saying that these guys are more worthy of our admiration just because they took a temporary cut in pay to become a "Super-Team", is a bit short-sighted, IMHO.

This will benefit them all, and not just in terms of winning ... their exposure and "Star" power will soar as a result, and endorsements and residual monetary benefits will go on for years.

They want to win, so they took a salary cut ... but that's no shining endorsement of their character, merely what they should be doing as competitors, (in the media's eyes), and what will benefit them even more in the long run, than if they had stayed autonomous.

If you want to make a comparison of character, just look at Paul ... he took a pay-cut primarily out of loyalty to his team and fans, not as part of a betrayal to his home-town fans for the sake of joining a "Super" team.

The fans of Toronto and Cleveland are bitter, and they have a right to be ... they gave their hearts and loyalty to guys who saw their personal gain as the ultimate consideration.

Sure, that's what this league is about nowadays, and Pierce's motivations weren't completely unselfish. But to feel sorry for Miami because they'er taking some guff for decisions that hurt a lot of people, well, I just can't go there.

It's also a misnomer to label people as "mad" just because they feel no sympathy for the Heat ... I'm not remotely mad, in fact, I started a whole thread about how I love all this hype, as it makes the Celtics an underdog.

I don't hate the Heat because they've become the big favorite in the East, I hate them because they're our competition, as I did before this happened, and now even more because LeBron is there, not because I'm jealous or afraid of their new "Super" team.

You and others feel sorry for them for the backlash, and that's your right, but please allow the rest of us the latitude to be indifferent about the whole thing, and not label us as "haters" and jealous, just because we don't feel bad for the new Super-heroes of the NBA.

The fans of Cleveland and Toronto ... that's who I feel sorry for in the light of this whole thing. I can't imagine having the rug pulled out from underneath like that ... and I hope I never have to find out.

I need to give you TPs for about 3 weeks, Bahku.

[incoherent]

I think the outrage at this is outrageous.

Lets, for example, look at Joe Johnson.  Dude took max money and crippled his own chances at ever winning a ring for extra money.

LBJ/Wade/Bosh all took less money for a shot at a ring..... isn't that like a noble thing to do in basketball???  I always thought so.  I still think so.

Had LBJ/Wade/Bosh all stayed home and took max contacts I would have been disgusted.

I like Lebron, Wade, and Bosh a lot more now then I did before.  They are actually sacrificing money for a chance to win.  Something that doesn't happen all that often.  Sure it happens to players as they get older and various other circumstances.  But never does it happen to players with youth in their prime.


Why are people mad at this? I read this whole thread and didn't see any valid reasons at all.

Ya'll a bit mad at how LBJ is a never ending hype machine?  Get over it, been that way for 7 years.  He gained my respect by taking less money and not wanting to be the man just wanting to get a ring.

Ya'll mad cause Bosh tweeted some dumb stuff?  Get over it... it's freaking twitter.... not a reason to around hating a guy who left money on the table for a chance at a ring.

So what are you mad at really?? That all of a sudden Boston's title chances have dwindled considerably?

Tough luck for us I guess, hate them though? No... I dont hate them, if anything I respect them all a little more for doing something we all said we would do if we were NBA players probably a million times.

I am a little tired of all the backlash they are getting.  It just shows you who is jealous and who just wants to be a hater.

The Onion should pick this up and post it in response to backlash. 

What? Why?  Because I posted an alternative point of view? Waste of time writing responses like that man.