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Re: Anyone else getting sick of the backlash towards Miami?
« Reply #90 on: July 13, 2010, 02:47:42 PM »

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So what is the NBA going to do when the next great triumvirate gets together and decides where they are going to play in a couple of years and how much each of them will make? For example, while a long shot, say the Paul/Melo/Amar'e thing happens in New York? Or something else happens somewhere else? What will the league be like when there are three or four superteams and everyone else plays for the scraps? What will the league be like when the small market teams have even less chance to compete? Honestly, the league needs to do something about this situation before it happens two or three more times.

I think the CBA will take care of it. THe CBA will stop this kind of player collusion, and it will stop being able to trade an expiring contract which is prearranged to be waved, then have the player join his original team.

There's nothing the league can do to prevent friends from playing together or having conversations about those kinds of things. For star players, this is going to be the new normal.

The NBA can however ensure that teams do not have cap room in any given year for more than 2 max players.

AKA: no more than 24 million or so cap room can be used in any 1 given season.

That'll make it a little harder at least.

Don't like that idea. If teams want to take a huge gamble, they should be able to do so. Most of the time it will fail, anyway.

Well right, but one time it will succeed. I don't like the idea of whatever team can sell its self better being the team that has all the best players. If I liked that I'd be a Calipari fan.

So, I gather you're liking the Heat to come out of the east next year?

You seem to be looking for CBA protection against the odd spectacular move which requires an alignment of cap space, contract expiration and player willingness to take less money. I don't think the CBA should protect against odds that long.

Also, it's really just a different way of accomplishing what Danny did with the big three.

Riley pulled it off (or rather, Wade/Bosh/LBJ did) and you have to give them credit for such a bold move.

Re: Anyone else getting sick of the backlash towards Miami?
« Reply #91 on: July 13, 2010, 02:49:23 PM »

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Re: Anyone else getting sick of the backlash towards Miami?
« Reply #92 on: July 13, 2010, 02:53:34 PM »

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So what is the NBA going to do when the next great triumvirate gets together and decides where they are going to play in a couple of years and how much each of them will make? For example, while a long shot, say the Paul/Melo/Amar'e thing happens in New York? Or something else happens somewhere else? What will the league be like when there are three or four superteams and everyone else plays for the scraps? What will the league be like when the small market teams have even less chance to compete? Honestly, the league needs to do something about this situation before it happens two or three more times.

I think the CBA will take care of it. THe CBA will stop this kind of player collusion, and it will stop being able to trade an expiring contract which is prearranged to be waved, then have the player join his original team.

There's nothing the league can do to prevent friends from playing together or having conversations about those kinds of things. For star players, this is going to be the new normal.

The NBA can however ensure that teams do not have cap room in any given year for more than 2 max players.

AKA: no more than 24 million or so cap room can be used in any 1 given season.

That'll make it a little harder at least.

Don't like that idea. If teams want to take a huge gamble, they should be able to do so. Most of the time it will fail, anyway.

Well right, but one time it will succeed. I don't like the idea of whatever team can sell its self better being the team that has all the best players. If I liked that I'd be a Calipari fan.

So, I gather you're liking the Heat to come out of the east next year?

You seem to be looking for CBA protection against the odd spectacular move which requires an alignment of cap space, contract expiration and player willingness to take less money. I don't think the CBA should protect against odds that long.

Also, it's really just a different way of accomplishing what Danny did with the big three.

Riley pulled it off (or rather, Wade/Bosh/LBJ did) and you have to give them credit for such a bold move.

The Heat are probably the odds on favorites, but I'm far from conceding the east to them.

That's actually not my gripe. My bigger gripe is teams continuing to make them selves worse and worse by taking on inferior talent to shed contract for one hypothetical off season. It's screwing with the talent, and it's annoying.

But, on the other hand, the KNicks are having a good offseason, the Nets have some promise, and the Clippers got Ryan Gomes. Maybe Im seeing ghosts that aren't there.

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Re: Anyone else getting sick of the backlash towards Miami?
« Reply #93 on: July 13, 2010, 03:15:44 PM »

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Yes, getting sick of the conversation.  Each perspective has made its points - any further conversation is just a rehashing of what has already been put out there.  People who feel one way aren't likely to change their perspectives at this point, so is there really any purpose to continue talking about it? 

All that said, if LeBron really wanted to impress the world with his willingness to take less money to win a championship, he would have taken the MLE to sign with the Celtics, or at the very least taken an 8mil a year contract from the Heat so they'd have the cap room to sign some good veterans and fill out their roster. He still got a six year max deal - it was a sign and trade.  To claim that he took less to win is really empty rhetoric on his part, there was no real sacrifice involved. 
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