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Should we shop KG and #19 pick
« on: June 24, 2010, 08:30:38 AM »

Offline thedawg

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Would there be any takers if we wanted to trade KG and perhaps our #19th pick along? No disrespect to what he has done for us but we need to think of all options, and this is an option just like all our contracts. However, would there be any takers if we would offer KG+#19?  ???
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Re: Should we shop KG and #19 pick
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2010, 08:35:46 AM »

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Im just not sure how the salary would work.  Would any team really want to take that kind of salary instead of going after the top tier free agents?
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Re: Should we shop KG and #19 pick
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2010, 08:40:18 AM »

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Agreed with Rondo...KG is still a talented player, and I'm glad he's a Celtic, but he's clearly on the downside of his career at this point.  I don't see anyone who would be interested in taking on that gigantic salary.  Maybe next year when it's going to be an expiring deal, but definitely not this year.

Re: Should we shop KG and #19 pick
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2010, 08:49:06 AM »

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I would not be afraid to pull the trigger on a KG trade, but it would have to be for a top 3 pick. 

Re: Should we shop KG and #19 pick
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2010, 08:54:14 AM »

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I think the top 5 or 6 picks are as good as the 3 for our purposes. Likewise from 6 or 7 to 14 or 15.

Re: Should we shop KG and #19 pick
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2010, 09:14:52 AM »

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KG is gonna have a great year with his knee fully recovered. The problem is other teams most likely won't feel that way, You know, "getting older", "can he come back?", etc. His value is much higher to us than to another team for next year and as other posters have pointed out, will be more valuable league-wide as an expiring the following year, depending on the new CBA as being the same as this one regarding the value of expirings' implications.

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« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2010, 09:22:08 AM »

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Would there be any takers if we wanted to trade KG and perhaps our #19th pick along? No disrespect to what he has done for us but we need to think of all options, and this is an option just like all our contracts. However, would there be any takers if we would offer KG+#19?  ???

I think the only way we could move him is if there is someone out there with an equally cripping cap hold whether it is for a longer time or a player with worse skills. The only one that even comes close is Gilbert Arenas and I think we can all agree that is a bad deal.

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« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2010, 09:23:06 AM »

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trade KG and Paul likely will opt out - he's not into rebuilding
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Re: Should we shop KG and #19 pick
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2010, 09:33:07 AM »

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trade KG and Paul likely will opt out - he's not into rebuilding

This should end this discussion unless KG nets you a top 3 player, not a top 3 pick.

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« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2010, 09:34:34 AM »

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trade KG and Paul likely will opt out - he's not into rebuilding

This should end this discussion unless KG nets you a top 3 player, not a top 3 pick.

Unfortunately, at this point KG isn't a top 20 player.

Re: Should we shop KG and #19 pick
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2010, 09:35:46 AM »

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Im just not sure how the salary would work.  Would any team really want to take that kind of salary instead of going after the top tier free agents?

teams over the cap might (like Dallas).  Teams that want to move other contracts might (like Toronto & Cleveland)
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Re: Should we shop KG and #19 pick
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2010, 09:48:08 AM »

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trade KG and Paul likely will opt out - he's not into rebuilding
depends on what we get though.  What if it is Chris Paul?

Boston trades Garnett, Rondo, Sheed
Boston receives Chris Paul, Okafor, Posey

Toronto trade Hedo, Banks
Toronto receives Garnett

New Orleans trades Paul, Okafor, Posey
New Orleans receives Al Jefferson, Rondo, Sheed

Minnesota trades Jefferson
Minnesota receives Hedo, Banks

According to trade machine on ESPN this works (if made now)

It allows the C's to then move Perkins before or after the draft in a trade to get a new starting PF.  Obviously pieces can be adjusted as teams see fit.  The only thing I wasn't sure about was Hedo to Minnesota.  Minny needs a SF I'm just not sure they want Hedo as that SF. 

It may set us back a bit next year, but Pierce has got to like a team that has Chris Paul going forward and depending on what happens with Perkins in a separate move, it may not even set us back.
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« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2010, 09:50:15 AM »

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trade KG and Paul likely will opt out - he's not into rebuilding

This should end this discussion unless KG nets you a top 3 player, not a top 3 pick.

Unfortunately, at this point KG isn't a top 20 player.

True he's not top 20.  But his intangibles are still #1 in the league, and that's what some contending team would be after....

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« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2010, 10:13:54 AM »

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I think in order for someone to be willing to take on his big contract we would not get much in exchange for him.
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Re: Should we shop KG and #19 pick
« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2010, 10:27:44 AM »

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Trading KG is trading the main piece of your puzzle to the finals next season(imo)...what he brings to the table is not all seen on a stat sheet.You can't teach high intensity and its very hard to replace.

 a starter on a team that just finish#2 in the NBA,and now people want to trade him,go figure. >:(
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