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Re: Rondo is Average
« Reply #60 on: March 11, 2010, 05:45:35 PM »

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Rondo is a lot of things but average isn't a word I'd use to describe him. I can't think of one basketball-related area where's he's average - he's either very good or quite bad. 

He has a lot of room to grow and he's one of the best PGs around so he'll probably be a good building block. If the team wants to build around him obviously they will try to assemble pieces that complement his skills and play to his strengths.
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Re: Rondo is Average
« Reply #61 on: March 11, 2010, 07:14:08 PM »

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all i can say is "wow", lol.

the following is all i have to say about this topic:
there are A LOT of nba teams that want our "average" pg. 

Re: Rondo is Average
« Reply #62 on: March 11, 2010, 07:41:06 PM »

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Rondo is an all-star. WHile i agree he will never be the man on a championship team to call him average is a disgrace. And to those who argued this dumb post for 5 pages also a disgrace. The NBA is dominated by slashing wings. Paul Pierce is our problem right now he's transforming into a set shooter not a scorer.

Re: Rondo is Average
« Reply #63 on: March 11, 2010, 07:44:19 PM »

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Rondo is an all-star. WHile i agree he will never be the man on a championship team to call him average is a disgrace. And to those who argued this dumb post for 5 pages also a disgrace. The NBA is dominated by slashing wings. Paul Pierce is our problem right now he's transforming into a set shooter not a scorer.

Again I ask what point guard has ever been "the man" on a championship team?

Re: Rondo is Average
« Reply #64 on: March 11, 2010, 07:47:37 PM »

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Rondo is an all-star. WHile i agree he will never be the man on a championship team to call him average is a disgrace. And to those who argued this dumb post for 5 pages also a disgrace. The NBA is dominated by slashing wings. Paul Pierce is our problem right now he's transforming into a set shooter not a scorer.

Again I ask what point guard has ever been "the man" on a championship team?

magic and isiah come to mind

Re: Rondo is Average
« Reply #65 on: March 11, 2010, 07:55:12 PM »

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Rondo is an all-star. WHile i agree he will never be the man on a championship team to call him average is a disgrace. And to those who argued this dumb post for 5 pages also a disgrace. The NBA is dominated by slashing wings. Paul Pierce is our problem right now he's transforming into a set shooter not a scorer.

Again I ask what point guard has ever been "the man" on a championship team?

magic and isiah come to mind

Exactly we're going back 20 years to find one. Having a point guard as our "main" guy isn't too exciting when you look at recent history. I'm not sure I see a point guard in the league right now that would be the main guy on a championship team- and yes that includes Chris Paul.

Re: Rondo is Average
« Reply #66 on: March 11, 2010, 07:57:13 PM »

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Rondo is an all-star. WHile i agree he will never be the man on a championship team to call him average is a disgrace. And to those who argued this dumb post for 5 pages also a disgrace. The NBA is dominated by slashing wings. Paul Pierce is our problem right now he's transforming into a set shooter not a scorer.

Again I ask what point guard has ever been "the man" on a championship team?

magic and isiah come to mind

Exactly we're going back 20 years to find one. Having a point guard as our "main" guy isn't too exciting when you look at recent history. I'm not sure I see a point guard in the league right now that would be the main guy on a championship team- and yes that includes Chris Paul.

one would argue that tony parker and chauncey billups' finals mvp awards reflect the importance of their play

Re: Rondo is Average
« Reply #67 on: March 11, 2010, 08:19:23 PM »

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Rondo is a Average player when he plays within himself.

Rondo is a Great player when he plays within his team.

What's wrong with this team is Rondo being to aggressive on both sides of the Ball.

Yes maybe Rondo feels he plays within himself, But his team is much older than him and would rather play a strategic game rather than a up and down the court trading hoops game.

Rondo needs to look in the mirror and see himself and not Dwayne Wade.

He needs to then look at his team and there abilities and play within his team on both sides of the ball.

This team isn't about arrogance, and choosing to go for a steal can put your Team members on there heals.

When the team is always thinking they have to cover the lane and Rondo's man every time down the court.

Yes he gets a fair share of those steals but at the same time he does it so much he is loosing the respect of his team.

When Rondo is playing in overdrive, his team is playing in low gear and contemplating just putting it in park.


Also Glen Davis has become a liability to this team and yet Game after game Doc inserts him into the lineup and never yanks him out for launching up shots, or not playing Defense.

I thought the actions of Glen Davis on Shaq was way uncalled for and it seems every game he is just becoming a even more irresponsible player playing with vengeance.

This team is on the verge of destruction, Doc as the Head coach, Danny Ainge as GM and Paul Pierce as team Captain have a responsibility to this team.

I expect a team meeting was held today. I hope within that meeting everyone was honest with there feelings.



Re: Rondo is Average
« Reply #68 on: March 11, 2010, 08:19:58 PM »

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Rondo is an all-star. WHile i agree he will never be the man on a championship team to call him average is a disgrace. And to those who argued this dumb post for 5 pages also a disgrace. The NBA is dominated by slashing wings. Paul Pierce is our problem right now he's transforming into a set shooter not a scorer.

Again I ask what point guard has ever been "the man" on a championship team?

magic and isiah come to mind

Exactly we're going back 20 years to find one. Having a point guard as our "main" guy isn't too exciting when you look at recent history. I'm not sure I see a point guard in the league right now that would be the main guy on a championship team- and yes that includes Chris Paul.

one would argue that tony parker and chauncey billups' finals mvp awards reflect the importance of their play

Yeah they were important to their team but they weren't "the man" or whatever that means to their team.

Re: Rondo is Average
« Reply #69 on: March 11, 2010, 08:24:44 PM »

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Rondo is an all-star. WHile i agree he will never be the man on a championship team to call him average is a disgrace. And to those who argued this dumb post for 5 pages also a disgrace. The NBA is dominated by slashing wings. Paul Pierce is our problem right now he's transforming into a set shooter not a scorer.

Again I ask what point guard has ever been "the man" on a championship team?

magic and isiah come to mind

Exactly we're going back 20 years to find one. Having a point guard as our "main" guy isn't too exciting when you look at recent history. I'm not sure I see a point guard in the league right now that would be the main guy on a championship team- and yes that includes Chris Paul.

one would argue that tony parker and chauncey billups' finals mvp awards reflect the importance of their play

Yeah they were important to their team but they weren't "the man" or whatever that means to their team.

they were when it counted most

Re: Rondo is Average
« Reply #70 on: March 11, 2010, 08:42:30 PM »

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Rondo is an all-star. WHile i agree he will never be the man on a championship team to call him average is a disgrace. And to those who argued this dumb post for 5 pages also a disgrace. The NBA is dominated by slashing wings. Paul Pierce is our problem right now he's transforming into a set shooter not a scorer.

Again I ask what point guard has ever been "the man" on a championship team?

magic and isiah come to mind

Exactly we're going back 20 years to find one. Having a point guard as our "main" guy isn't too exciting when you look at recent history. I'm not sure I see a point guard in the league right now that would be the main guy on a championship team- and yes that includes Chris Paul.

one would argue that tony parker and chauncey billups' finals mvp awards reflect the importance of their play

Yeah they were important to their team but they weren't "the man" or whatever that means to their team.

they were when it counted most

Anyone on a championship team can be the MVP of the finals, they don't have to be the best player on their team.

I think we are getting sidetracked. Originally people were saying that Rondo won't be "the man" for a championship team. My argument was that very few PG's are "the man" for championship teams. I didn't say that they wouldn't be important to their team or play well when called upon.

Yes, I think PG's can win a finals MVP, but I think looking through history PG's on championship teams were not the best player on their team.

Re: Rondo is Average
« Reply #71 on: March 12, 2010, 12:47:03 AM »

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I'm sure it took you a while to make this post, but you can show me any number you want that says Rondo is better then Deron Williams and I will not believe them.  There is just no way Rondo is better then Williams.  Williams is on the Chris Paul level for PGs.  It's those 2 and then everyone else.  Rondo is just simply not that at that level.

Deron Williams has not been anywhere near as productive as Chris Paul in their last five seasons (and this is with Paul missing more playing time due to injuries).

As far as opinions go on Rondo, whether you believe him to be a better point guard than Williams or not, doesn't change what he brings to his team.

When constructing a team, one should always remember that a single player can never really win games by themselves. But, I'd certainly prefer having Rondo as my building block, over Williams.

Re: Rondo is Average
« Reply #72 on: March 12, 2010, 05:31:59 AM »

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Chauncey Billups didn't get his nickname of Mr Big Shot for nothing

He was THE leader and best player and the reason that Detroit team was what it was

And when it was most in need of leadership and a big shot, they turned to their most important player, Mr Big Shot

Some want to say that that was a team devoid of stars, I say it was a team led by it's best player, Chauncey Billups
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Re: Rondo is Average
« Reply #73 on: March 12, 2010, 07:35:22 AM »

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Yes he is (basically) average. Agree 100%.

Re: Rondo is Average
« Reply #74 on: March 12, 2010, 09:00:00 AM »

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i haven't looked at who is the OP, so it won't be a personal attack when I call this the dumbest thread title i've seen in 2010.
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