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Re: Rondo is Average
« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2010, 11:23:55 PM »

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Rondo is an average PG. He can't carry a team a la Steve Nash, Chris Paul, and Deron Williams. He is not a scoring threat a la Chauncey Billups, Tony Parker, Tyreke Evans. Is he better than Aaron Brooks? (questionable) Is he better than Derrick Rose? (Noo) In couple of years, you can add Stephen Curry, Brandon Jennings, Jonny Flynn, Rodney Stuckey, and Darren Collison to list of guys that will surpass Rondo.

A nice building block, but not a franchise player.

Totally agree! Actually on second thought I disagree, you know why? I think Rondo half of the time is pure garbage. He missess shots, turns the ball over way too much, travels, steps out of bounds (like he did all night tonight.)


wait,,,he travled, turned the ball over and stepped out of bounds all night?.....would that be his 2 turnovers to 8 asissts?....makes sense
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Re: Rondo is Average
« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2010, 11:28:37 PM »

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Rondo is an average PG. He can't carry a team a la Steve Nash, Chris Paul, and Deron Williams. He is not a scoring threat a la Chauncey Billups, Tony Parker, Tyreke Evans. Is he better than Aaron Brooks? (questionable) Is he better than Derrick Rose? (Noo) In couple of years, you can add Stephen Curry, Brandon Jennings, Jonny Flynn, Rodney Stuckey, and Darren Collison to list of guys that will surpass Rondo.

A nice building block, but not a franchise player.
Totally agree. He has his moments were he dominates. They are too far and few in between. Mostly he is a liability on defense and it puts too much pressure on the back line.

Not true, he recognizes that his teams offense is dependent on steals and blocks. Thats why he gambles. He may be a little overrated as a defensive player but he's DEFINITELY one of the best defensive PG's in the league.

And the only reason he doesn't carry the team is because he's not trying to force it... which IMO he should be.

Re: Rondo is Average
« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2010, 11:28:46 PM »

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of top tier pgs rondo is 4th is assist to turnover ratio.....

ahead of D williams, nash, parker, baron davis, andre miller, chauncy....everyone not named cp3, bibby or kidd

rondo's shooting may be something to nitpick, but certainly not turnovers
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« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2010, 11:29:05 PM »

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Rondo is an average PG. He can't carry a team a la Steve Nash, Chris Paul, and Deron Williams. He is not a scoring threat a la Chauncey Billups, Tony Parker, Tyreke Evans. Is he better than Aaron Brooks? (questionable) Is he better than Derrick Rose? (Noo) In couple of years, you can add Stephen Curry, Brandon Jennings, Jonny Flynn, Rodney Stuckey, and Darren Collison to list of guys that will surpass Rondo.

A nice building block, but not a franchise player.

So, now Rondo is average? Whats next...Osama Bin Laden for the noble peace prize?

Oh please....equating your love of Rondo to bin Laden is a bit extreme don't you think? In my eyes, Rondo is trash! He is the supposed leader of the team when things go well, but when things go sour, Rondo always gets a pass.

Trust me, unless Rondo simplifies his game, extending him for five years is going to end up being a HUGE, HUGE mistake.

He was HORRIBLE tonight against Memphis-He missess shots, turns the ball over, steps out of bounds, travels, and that's just the beginning. He did everything wrong, short of kicking the basketball into the stands like Nick Nolte in Blue Chips.

Rondo is the most overrated player in the NBA and I have no problem saying it. I would trade him for Nash, Chris Paul, Mo Williams, Derrik Fisher, whoever, in a heartbeat.

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« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2010, 11:33:10 PM »

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Rondo is anything but average. Put him on a team where he isn't held back by a circus of slowpokes, a team where he can play freely and not have to meticulously equalize the shot attempts taken by the supposed superstars, a team where the coach actually runs plays for him, a team that gives him the green light to dominate the game, a team that doesn't demand that guards turn a blind eye to the offensive glass... honestly, I feel like he's not carrying the team right now because he's not allowed to carry the team. Not because he can't - he definitely can.

Re: Rondo is Average
« Reply #20 on: March 10, 2010, 11:33:50 PM »

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Oh please....equating your love of Rondo to bin Laden is a bit extreme don't you think? In my eyes, Rondo is trash! He is the supposed leader of the team when things go well, but when things go sour, Rondo always gets a pass.

Trust me, unless Rondo simplifies his game, extending him for five years is going to end up being a HUGE, HUGE mistake.

He was HORRIBLE tonight against Memphis-He missess shots, turns the ball over, steps out of bounds, travels, and that's just the beginning. He did everything wrong, short of kicking the basketball into the stands like Nick Nolte in Blue Chips.

Rondo is the most overrated player in the NBA and I have no problem saying it. I would trade him for Nash, Chris Paul, Mo Williams, Derrik Fisher, whoever, in a heartbeat.

Now you're going overboard. Chris Paul is the best. Rondo is Average. D-Fish is horrible.

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« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2010, 11:34:25 PM »

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hmmmmm is it me or is rondo the only consistent player on the team....i dont mean every game, but 9 out of 10

not pierce, not kg, not ray,,,,rondo has easily been the most consistent player this year

hmmmm...what games are you watching? Rondo is a clumsy hack who is TOTALLY overrated.

you are watching games where the big 3 are playing consistently solid....did you forget to the 2008 dvd out of the player?  

until the allstar break ray was having his worst shooting season of his career

kg's rebounds are at a career low, especially offensive

and pierce is averaging 2ppg below his career low
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Re: Rondo is Average
« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2010, 11:38:08 PM »

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Rondo is an average PG. He can't carry a team a la Steve Nash, Chris Paul, and Deron Williams. He is not a scoring threat a la Chauncey Billups, Tony Parker, Tyreke Evans. Is he better than Aaron Brooks? (questionable) Is he better than Derrick Rose? (Noo) In couple of years, you can add Stephen Curry, Brandon Jennings, Jonny Flynn, Rodney Stuckey, and Darren Collison to list of guys that will surpass Rondo.

A nice building block, but not a franchise player.

So, now Rondo is average? Whats next...Osama Bin Laden for the noble peace prize?

Oh please....equating your love of Rondo to bin Laden is a bit extreme don't you think? In my eyes, Rondo is trash! He is the supposed leader of the team when things go well, but when things go sour, Rondo always gets a pass.

Trust me, unless Rondo simplifies his game, extending him for five years is going to end up being a HUGE, HUGE mistake.

He was HORRIBLE tonight against Memphis-He missess shots, turns the ball over, steps out of bounds, travels, and that's just the beginning. He did everything wrong, short of kicking the basketball into the stands like Nick Nolte in Blue Chips.

Rondo is the most overrated player in the NBA and I have no problem saying it. I would trade him for Nash, Chris Paul, Mo Williams, Derrik Fisher, whoever, in a heartbeat.

again...TWO TURNOVERS....he couldnt have "turned the ball over, stepped out of bounds and traveled....and that be just the beginning", its simple math

yes he stepped out of bounds....should he expect his award for being the first player to do so,,,,or does he have to wait for eddie house and ray ray to return theirs for the dozens of times they have?
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Re: Rondo is Average
« Reply #23 on: March 10, 2010, 11:38:28 PM »

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Not saying Rondo is the problem. But thinking somehow Rondo can keep this team afloat after the big3 is in fact illusional. The guy is average. Nothing about him is exceptional.

You mean besides his passing, transition play, stealing ability, rebounding, and interior scoring?

Passing to wide open ray allen or KG, woow.... that must be amazing. Isn't he even grabbing around 4boards a game? There goes your rebounding argument. Leaving his assignment to get steals, yeah that smart. No wonder why opposing PG torch the Celtics. Interior Scoring should never be left to Point-Guards. That's the bigs job. In the playoffs he won't get too many open layups. Especially against shot blocking Centers and Power-Fowards. Rondo will struggle in the playoffs. 

If you're going to diminish assist #s  because of talented teammates, would you also take credit away from Nash for having Amare and J-Rich to pass to?  

Rondo's definitely having an off-year by his rebounding standards, but he's still above average for a guard, and his previous 3-years were downright Kidd-like.  

And if you don't want your PG's scoring on the inside, do you disapprove of Tony Parker, Derrick Rose and Tyreke Evans?
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Re: Rondo is Average
« Reply #24 on: March 10, 2010, 11:39:11 PM »

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Rondo is an average PG. He can't carry a team a la Steve Nash, Chris Paul, and Deron Williams. He is not a scoring threat a la Chauncey Billups, Tony Parker, Tyreke Evans. Is he better than Aaron Brooks? (questionable) Is he better than Derrick Rose? (Noo) In couple of years, you can add Stephen Curry, Brandon Jennings, Jonny Flynn, Rodney Stuckey, and Darren Collison to list of guys that will surpass Rondo.

A nice building block, but not a franchise player.

So, now Rondo is average? Whats next...Osama Bin Laden for the noble peace prize?

Oh please....equating your love of Rondo to bin Laden is a bit extreme don't you think? In my eyes, Rondo is trash! He is the supposed leader of the team when things go well, but when things go sour, Rondo always gets a pass.

Trust me, unless Rondo simplifies his game, extending him for five years is going to end up being a HUGE, HUGE mistake.

He was HORRIBLE tonight against Memphis-He missess shots, turns the ball over, steps out of bounds, travels, and that's just the beginning. He did everything wrong, short of kicking the basketball into the stands like Nick Nolte in Blue Chips.

Rondo is the most overrated player in the NBA and I have no problem saying it. I would trade him for Nash, Chris Paul, Mo Williams, Derrik Fisher, whoever, in a heartbeat.

Most overrated player in NBA? Really? Mo Williams and Co. would like to thank you for the honour you have bestowed upon them. I know you are angry/upset with the loss and the team's overall performace...but you need to find another scapegoat. Rondo is not the problem. Did you watch Mo Williams in the ECF?
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« Reply #25 on: March 10, 2010, 11:39:59 PM »

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Not saying Rondo is the problem. But thinking somehow Rondo can keep this team afloat after the big3 is in fact illusional. The guy is average. Nothing about him is exceptional.

You mean besides his passing, transition play, stealing ability, rebounding, and interior scoring?

Passing to wide open ray allen or KG, woow.... that must be amazing. Isn't he even grabbing around 4boards a game? There goes your rebounding argument. Leaving his assignment to get steals, yeah that smart. No wonder why opposing PG torch the Celtics. Interior Scoring should never be left to Point-Guards. That's the bigs job. In the playoffs he won't get too many open layups. Especially against shot blocking Centers and Power-Fowards. Rondo will struggle in the playoffs

Gee I sure hope he struggles in the playoffs just as much as last year  ::)

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« Reply #26 on: March 10, 2010, 11:41:28 PM »

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Not saying Rondo is the problem. But thinking somehow Rondo can keep this team afloat after the big3 is in fact illusional. The guy is average. Nothing about him is exceptional.

You mean besides his passing, transition play, stealing ability, rebounding, and interior scoring?

Passing to wide open ray allen or KG, woow.... that must be amazing. Isn't he even grabbing around 4boards a game? There goes your rebounding argument. Leaving his assignment to get steals, yeah that smart. No wonder why opposing PG torch the Celtics. Interior Scoring should never be left to Point-Guards. That's the bigs job. In the playoffs he won't get too many open layups. Especially against shot blocking Centers and Power-Fowards. Rondo will struggle in the playoffs

Gee I sure hope he struggles in the playoffs just as much as last year  ::)

He was so inconsistent... some times he got 14pts, 9reb, 10ast... sometimes 8pts, 12reb 14ast... sometimes 29pts, 7ast, 8reb.... it really drove me insane.

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« Reply #27 on: March 10, 2010, 11:42:22 PM »

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Not saying Rondo is the problem. But thinking somehow Rondo can keep this team afloat after the big3 is in fact illusional. The guy is average. Nothing about him is exceptional.

You mean besides his passing, transition play, stealing ability, rebounding, and interior scoring?

Passing to wide open ray allen or KG, woow.... that must be amazing. Isn't he even grabbing around 4boards a game? There goes your rebounding argument. Leaving his assignment to get steals, yeah that smart. No wonder why opposing PG torch the Celtics. Interior Scoring should never be left to Point-Guards. That's the bigs job. In the playoffs he won't get too many open layups. Especially against shot blocking Centers and Power-Fowards. Rondo will struggle in the playoffs. 

If you're going to diminish assist #s  because of talented teammates, would you also take credit away from Nash for having Amare and J-Rich to pass to?  

Rondo's definitely having an off-year by his rebounding standards, but he's still above average for a guard, and his previous 3-years were downright Kidd-like.  

And if you don't want your PG's scoring on the inside, do you disapprove of Tony Parker, Derrick Rose and Tyreke Evans?

Not to diss our team right now but Rondo is not playing with talented teammates at the moment.... Substitute Rondo for Jennings last night and the Bucks SMOKE us

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« Reply #28 on: March 10, 2010, 11:42:36 PM »

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If you're going to diminish assist #s  because of talented teammates, would you also take credit away from Nash for having Amare and J-Rich to pass to?  



nevermind nash,,,who couldnt get assists playing with abdul jabbar and worthy,,,,magics assists mean nothing

birds assist too, he had mchale and parish.

stockton? that was all malone

isiah? that was dumars, lambier and the microwave
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« Reply #29 on: March 10, 2010, 11:44:48 PM »

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If you're going to diminish assist #s  because of talented teammates, would you also take credit away from Nash for having Amare and J-Rich to pass to?  



nevermind nash,,,who couldnt get assists playing with abdul jabbar and worthy,,,,magics assists mean nothing

birds assist too, he had mchale and parish.

stockton? that was all malone

isiah? that was dumars, lambier and the microwave

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