Rondo is Average

[Rashi]

The thing with Rondo is that 'as he goes so go the Celtics'.


He needs to realize that he is in charge of setting the tempo/pace of the game in the 1st quarter. Yes Rondo isn't one of the greatest PG shooters, but he has improved, but more than that Rondo has a very good vision offensive-wise and he needs to make plays and get his shooters good looks/easy baskets for them to become effective earlier on.

Lately Rondo has either gassed himself out by putting all his energy in the 1st half or just sleep walked through the first half....and either way the end was resulted in a loss.

[Change]

Not saying Rondo is the problem. But thinking somehow Rondo can keep this team afloat after the big3 is in fact illusional. The guy is average. Nothing about him is exceptional.

You mean besides his passing, transition play, stealing ability, rebounding, and interior scoring?

Passing to wide open ray allen or KG, woow.... that must be amazing. Isn't he even grabbing around 4boards a game? There goes your rebounding argument. Leaving his assignment to get steals, yeah that smart. No wonder why opposing PG torch the Celtics. Interior Scoring should never be left to Point-Guards. That's the bigs job. In the playoffs he won't get too many open layups. Especially against shot blocking Centers and Power-Fowards. Rondo will struggle in the playoffs. 

Gee I sure hope he struggles in the playoffs just as much as last year  

He'll struggle. Shot Blockers negate his 'inside scoring'. Teams will sag off and dare him to shoot. Then what will he do? This team already has #1 liability with Perk, Rondo will be liability #2 in the playoffs.

[Truck Lewis]

i hadnt even seen the derek fisher thing....this guy has got to be a troll

and if not, please get a job in the front office of the lakers, cavs, colts, or yankees

[Induna]

Is it low levels of BBall IQ amongst some here or just pure desparation? Rondo average..... after all the tripple doubles and consistant performances including the well deserved allstar honour This is just silly now

[CelticG1]

Not saying Rondo is the problem. But thinking somehow Rondo can keep this team afloat after the big3 is in fact illusional. The guy is average. Nothing about him is exceptional.

You mean besides his passing, transition play, stealing ability, rebounding, and interior scoring?

Passing to wide open ray allen or KG, woow.... that must be amazing. Isn't he even grabbing around 4boards a game? There goes your rebounding argument. Leaving his assignment to get steals, yeah that smart. No wonder why opposing PG torch the Celtics. Interior Scoring should never be left to Point-Guards. That's the bigs job. In the playoffs he won't get too many open layups. Especially against shot blocking Centers and Power-Fowards. Rondo will struggle in the playoffs. 

Gee I sure hope he struggles in the playoffs just as much as last year  

He was so inconsistent... some times he got 14pts, 9reb, 10ast... sometimes 8pts, 12reb 14ast... sometimes 29pts, 7ast, 8reb.... it really drove me insane.

He was ridiculous in the playoffs best Celtic by far and we took the team that made it to the finals to 7 games. You are looking at those numbers as inconsistent but I'm looking at them as sheer effort. If he wasn't scoring he was dishing the ball and rebounding, when we needed baskets he scored. Inonsistent for Ray Allen is 30 points one night 0-3 the next. If inconsistent for Rondo is any variation of the stats you just listed I can certainly live with that

[CelticG1]

Not saying Rondo is the problem. But thinking somehow Rondo can keep this team afloat after the big3 is in fact illusional. The guy is average. Nothing about him is exceptional.

You mean besides his passing, transition play, stealing ability, rebounding, and interior scoring?

Passing to wide open ray allen or KG, woow.... that must be amazing. Isn't he even grabbing around 4boards a game? There goes your rebounding argument. Leaving his assignment to get steals, yeah that smart. No wonder why opposing PG torch the Celtics. Interior Scoring should never be left to Point-Guards. That's the bigs job. In the playoffs he won't get too many open layups. Especially against shot blocking Centers and Power-Fowards. Rondo will struggle in the playoffs. 

Gee I sure hope he struggles in the playoffs just as much as last year  

He'll struggle. Shot Blockers negate his 'inside scoring'. Teams will sag off and dare him to shoot. Then what will he do? This team already has #1 liability with Perk, Rondo will be liability #2 in the playoffs.

I would love to agree with you but in the playoffs last year against Dwight Howard an ok shot blocker, he seemed to do fine. Also against the Bucks last night against another semi-ok shot blocker Bogut, he seemed to do fine as well.

[Truck Lewis]

He was so inconsistent... some times he got 14pts, 9reb, 10ast... sometimes 8pts, 12reb 14ast... sometimes 29pts, 7ast, 8reb.... it really drove me insane.

all 3 are great boxscores....isnt that the mark of a great player, he can still succeed even when shots arent falling

[barefacedmonk]

Yea, Rondo is so average. Thats why Phil Jackson, Doc, Danny Ainge, Stan Van Gundy....and a whole lot of other "basketball experts" have praised Rondo's game and talent...I wonder why? Oh, btw, Clippers will need a new coach next season and Celticsblog seems to have many talented candidates. Anybody interested?

Its so very sad that we can't appreciate the fact that we have a very talented point guard. I guess, he won't get his full due untill he plays for another team...and I can tell you this, the Cavs will love to have Rondo over Mo anytime.

[Who]

Rondo is an average PG.

Seriously?

[scurvmeister]

He was so inconsistent... some times he got 14pts, 9reb, 10ast... sometimes 8pts, 12reb 14ast... sometimes 29pts, 7ast, 8reb.... it really drove me insane.

all 3 are great boxscores....isnt that the mark of a great player, he can still succeed even when shots arent falling

I sense massive sarcasm from xmuscularghandix

[Lord_of_the17Rings]

Rondo is not an average point guard.  Average players don't accomplish the things he has accomplished to this point.  Having said that, he has obvious warts to his game.  Would I trade him for CP3, Deron Williams, or Rose, in a NY minute, but those guys are the best young PG's in the league.  Rondo is not the problem.  It's just because we are playing so terribly right now, its easy to pick on the "warts".

If I were Doc I would sit the Big 3 until the Playoffs.  Highly unconventional?  Absolutely.  But these guys are completely cooked.  The first month of the season when they had gas, we looked unstoppable.  Rest them until Rd 1.  Let them get their "sea legs" against the Raptors, and pray they can keep in going in the playoffs.  I realize it sounds crazy, but I think we are down to desperate measures at this point.

[Bahku]

talk about baiting in a thread title.

Rondo is 4th in the league in assists, he's 1st in steals, and up until this season, he was one of the top 2 players at his position for rebounding.

Average? Come on.

Yeah, really ... have to totally agree with IP, here (TP). I mean how many PG's have had to take over the point in their second year in the NBA, (after not really playing much their first season), be the starter and on-the-court leader of a team with three superstars, (two who were just acquired), and take that team to it's first NBA Championship in over twenty years?!? I've been following this kid from his amazing High School years through to the present, and I'm sorry, but anyone who sees him as "average" either knows very little about basketball, or has been watching him play with their eyes shut. There is nothing average about Rajon save for his easy demeanor, and if he stays healthy, he will undoubtedly become one of the NBA's great Point Guards, and possibly one of the best PG's of all time.

[PLamb]

Rondo is a top 3-5 PG in the league and probably will be for some time

That said...

What I saw tonight that upset me and have seen often this year is Rondo standing upright about top of the key as his man dribbles in front of him

He has his arms out and looks behind him often talking, almost trying to direct the defense behind him

Then when he looks back again to see if everyone is doing what they are supposed to and his man blows by him for an uncontested run to the rim

This happened a minimum of three times tonight and I see it a lot

Rondo can not quarterback this defense from the top of the key, he needs a big man to do it from the back

That used to be KG, is he now not doing it?

In my observation I want to apologize for not paying attention as to whether KG was on the floor or not but at least once tonight I thought he was

[Mizzy21390]

talk about baiting in a thread title.

Rondo is 4th in the league in assists, he's 1st in steals, and up until this season, he was one of the top 2 players at his position for rebounding.

Average? Come on.

Yeah, really ... have to totally agree with IP, here (TP). I mean how many PG's have had to take over the point in their second year in the NBA, (after not really playing much their first season), be the starter and on-the-court leader of a team with three superstars, (two who were just acquired), and take that team to it's first NBA Championship in over twenty years?!? I've been following this kid from his amazing High School years through to the present, and I'm sorry, but anyone who sees him as "average" either knows very little about basketball, or has been watching him play with their eyes shut. There is nothing average about Rajon save for his easy demeanor, and if he stays healthy, he will undoubtedly become one of the NBA's great Point Guards, and possibly one of the best PG's of all time.

I have to agree also. The skills and the talent that Rondo brings to this team is nothing to warrant a "Rondo is average" post. Like someone mentioned before, there's no way he can be average when he has coaches like PJ and others praising him and his abilities.Even Nash had to praise him for his talent!

His quickness, his trickery, his steals, and his his high basketball IQ is nothing to call average. Hes not like your typical PG and that is why he is great for the team. Just because the team is sucking right now, should not be a reason for Rondo to mainly be at blame. Yes, he still needs to learn to shoot, but right now, that is not something that should be the reason for him supposedly being average.

[MBz]

Do I agree with the title?  No.  Do I understand what the poster is saying?  Yes.  He's not average by any means, he's a very talented player and a good point guard.  With that being said, he is not the guy we want to carry the torch after Pierce, KG and Allen retire/leave the team.  He's not a CP3 player who can score 20+ on a regular basis.  Rondo is more the Stockton player.  If he's the best player on the team, you'll probably have a problem, pair him with a superstar and you'll have yourself a good squad.