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Rondo is Average
« on: March 10, 2010, 10:36:15 PM »

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Rondo is an average PG. He can't carry a team a la Steve Nash, Chris Paul, and Deron Williams. He is not a scoring threat a la Chauncey Billups, Tony Parker, Tyreke Evans. Is he better than Aaron Brooks? (questionable) Is he better than Derrick Rose? (Noo) In couple of years, you can add Stephen Curry, Brandon Jennings, Jonny Flynn, Rodney Stuckey, and Darren Collison to list of guys that will surpass Rondo.

A nice building block, but not a franchise player.
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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2010, 10:39:44 PM »

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Quote from: Change on March 10, 2010, 10:36:15 PM
Rondo is an average PG. He can't carry a team a la Steve Nash, Chris Paul, and Deron Williams. He is not a scoring threat a la Chauncey Billups, Tony Parker, Tyreke Evans. Is he better than Aaron Brooks? (questionable) Is he better than Derrick Rose? (Noo) In couple of years, you can add Stephen Curry, Brandon Jennings, Jonny Flynn, Rodney Stuckey, and Darren Collison to list of guys that will surpass Rondo.

A nice building block, but not a franchise player.

Completely disagree. I don't even know where to begin
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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2010, 10:40:33 PM »

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Quote from: Change on March 10, 2010, 10:36:15 PM
Rondo is an average PG. He can't carry a team a la Steve Nash, Chris Paul, and Deron Williams. He is not a scoring threat a la Chauncey Billups, Tony Parker, Tyreke Evans. Is he better than Aaron Brooks? (questionable) Is he better than Derrick Rose? (Noo) In couple of years, you can add Stephen Curry, Brandon Jennings, Jonny Flynn, Rodney Stuckey, and Darren Collison to list of guys that will surpass Rondo.

A nice building block, but not a franchise player.

So, now Rondo is average? Whats next...Osama Bin Laden for the noble peace prize?
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« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2010, 10:41:07 PM »

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Look, I'm disillusioned too, but Rondo is not the problem.  Sure, it would be nice if he could shoot like most of the guys you mentioned, but the fact that he can't doesn't make him an "average" point guard.
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« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2010, 10:48:39 PM »

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Not saying Rondo is the problem. But thinking somehow Rondo can keep this team afloat after the big3 is in fact illusional. The guy is average. Nothing about him is exceptional.
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« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2010, 10:51:57 PM »

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Quote from: Change on March 10, 2010, 10:36:15 PM
Rondo is an average PG. He can't carry a team a la Steve Nash, Chris Paul, and Deron Williams. He is not a scoring threat a la Chauncey Billups, Tony Parker, Tyreke Evans. Is he better than Aaron Brooks? (questionable) Is he better than Derrick Rose? (Noo) In couple of years, you can add Stephen Curry, Brandon Jennings, Jonny Flynn, Rodney Stuckey, and Darren Collison to list of guys that will surpass Rondo.

A nice building block, but not a franchise player.
Totally agree. He has his moments were he dominates. They are too far and few in between. Mostly he is a liability on defense and it puts too much pressure on the back line.
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« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2010, 11:05:59 PM »

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Quote from: Change on March 10, 2010, 10:48:39 PM
Not saying Rondo is the problem. But thinking somehow Rondo can keep this team afloat after the big3 is in fact illusional. The guy is average. Nothing about him is exceptional.

You mean besides his passing, transition play, stealing ability, rebounding, and interior scoring?
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Re: Rondo is Average
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2010, 11:07:34 PM »

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Ok fine he might not be an MVP player right now  but he is not average.
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« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2010, 11:10:04 PM »

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He's perfect for the team he's playing on when everyone is clicking on all cylinders.
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« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2010, 11:12:07 PM »

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I don't know if I'd say 'average,' but he isn't exactly a lock as a perennial all-star, either. [note: that may be news to him]

Granted, he isn't the nifty passer that Nash is, or CP.  He seems to not be making great decisions on the break lately, either (turnovers/bad passes from forcing it).

His quickness was one of his strongest assets, but with all the new young stud PG's, that may not be as much of an advantage over other teams as it was thought to be.

He can't shoot well, which is a major, major limitation on the S/R, an NBA staple play.

He gets steals, but at the expense of good team defense due to his wandering and chance-taking.

Okay...I'm at a loss as to what part of his game is so far above "average" after all...

Yeah, he gets assists by finding guys in the half-court, but I'm starting to think it comes at the expense of ball movement, hurting the offense as much as it helps.

And his scoring is definitely up, many on those oddball, weird angled high lofts off the glass against tight pressure.  I'm not sure I like that, actually.  

I wouldn't dump him, but he's certainly not a franchise player that a team gets built around, either.
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« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2010, 11:13:01 PM »

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talk about baiting in a thread title.

Rondo is 4th in the league in assists, he's 1st in steals, and up until this season, he was one of the top 2 players at his position for rebounding.

Average? Come on.
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« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2010, 11:21:30 PM »

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Quote from: Change on March 10, 2010, 10:36:15 PM
Rondo is an average PG. He can't carry a team a la Steve Nash, Chris Paul, and Deron Williams. He is not a scoring threat a la Chauncey Billups, Tony Parker, Tyreke Evans. Is he better than Aaron Brooks? (questionable) Is he better than Derrick Rose? (Noo) In couple of years, you can add Stephen Curry, Brandon Jennings, Jonny Flynn, Rodney Stuckey, and Darren Collison to list of guys that will surpass Rondo.

A nice building block, but not a franchise player.

Totally agree! Actually on second thought I disagree, you know why? I think Rondo half of the time is pure garbage. He missess shots, turns the ball over way too much, travels, steps out of bounds (like he did all night tonight.)

However, because he's "young and full of potential," he gets a pass. Apparently being young is all that qualifies you to be a good player nowadays.
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« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2010, 11:21:40 PM »

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hmmmmm is it me or is rondo the only consistent player on the team....i dont mean every game, but 9 out of 10

not pierce, not kg, not ray,,,,rondo has easily been the most consistent player this year
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« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2010, 11:22:46 PM »

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Quote from: snively on March 10, 2010, 11:05:59 PM
Quote from: Change on March 10, 2010, 10:48:39 PM
Not saying Rondo is the problem. But thinking somehow Rondo can keep this team afloat after the big3 is in fact illusional. The guy is average. Nothing about him is exceptional.

You mean besides his passing, transition play, stealing ability, rebounding, and interior scoring?

Passing to wide open ray allen or KG, woow.... that must be amazing. Isn't he even grabbing around 4boards a game? There goes your rebounding argument. Leaving his assignment to get steals, yeah that smart. No wonder why opposing PG torch the Celtics. Interior Scoring should never be left to Point-Guards. That's the bigs job. In the playoffs he won't get too many open layups. Especially against shot blocking Centers and Power-Fowards. Rondo will struggle in the playoffs. 
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« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2010, 11:23:50 PM »

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Quote from: Truck Lewis on March 10, 2010, 11:21:40 PM
hmmmmm is it me or is rondo the only consistent player on the team....i dont mean every game, but 9 out of 10

not pierce, not kg, not ray,,,,rondo has easily been the most consistent player this year

hmmmm...what games are you watching? Rondo is a clumsy hack who is TOTALLY overrated.
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