Nate to Celtics Official / Danny's take (merged Nate threads)

[Fan from VT]

Confirmed.
Nate could be like Gasol.
Good player on crappy team until trade and then you see the real player.

Gasol had lead Memphis to a 50 win season.

Gasol was the only player on that squad. I am not saying Nate is Gasol, but the comparison of potentially good players on bad teams.

Except in Nate's case, he isn't even close to the best player on that bad team.


In fact, when he plays for the bad team, it gets worse. 

What's your basis for that claim?

[wdleehi]

Confirmed.
Nate could be like Gasol.
Good player on crappy team until trade and then you see the real player.

Gasol had lead Memphis to a 50 win season.

Gasol was the only player on that squad. I am not saying Nate is Gasol, but the comparison of potentially good players on bad teams.

Except in Nate's case, he isn't even close to the best player on that bad team.


In fact, when he plays for the bad team, it gets worse. 

What's your basis for that claim?

Their record this year with him vs. their record this year without him. 

[crownsy]

Confirmed.
Nate could be like Gasol.
Good player on crappy team until trade and then you see the real player.

Gasol had lead Memphis to a 50 win season.

Gasol was the only player on that squad. I am not saying Nate is Gasol, but the comparison of potentially good players on bad teams.

Except in Nate's case, he isn't even close to the best player on that bad team.


In fact, when he plays for the bad team, it gets worse. 

What's your basis for that claim?

I don't have the figures, but i'm pretty sure thier W-L record is worse when he starts at PG, and that's what WDL is referring too.

A big part of this trades impact will be how he assimilates to a reduced role.

[Fan from VT]

Confirmed.
Nate could be like Gasol.
Good player on crappy team until trade and then you see the real player.

Gasol had lead Memphis to a 50 win season.

Gasol was the only player on that squad. I am not saying Nate is Gasol, but the comparison of potentially good players on bad teams.

Except in Nate's case, he isn't even close to the best player on that bad team.


In fact, when he plays for the bad team, it gets worse. 

What's your basis for that claim?

Their record this year with him vs. their record this year without him. 

What about the fact that each of the last three years Robinson's had a positive adjusted plus minus? This means that over each of the last three years they've been better when he's on the court than the bench.

[wdleehi]

I just don't want him.


He plays at the begining of the season, Knicks not good.
He is out of the rotation, Knicks ok.



More to the point

With Nate, 10-21
Without Nate 9-12

here is what I posted before.

[BballTim]

Confirmed.
Nate could be like Gasol.
Good player on crappy team until trade and then you see the real player.

Gasol had lead Memphis to a 50 win season.

Gasol was the only player on that squad. I am not saying Nate is Gasol, but the comparison of potentially good players on bad teams.

Except in Nate's case, he isn't even close to the best player on that bad team.


In fact, when he plays for the bad team, it gets worse. 

What's your basis for that claim?

I don't have the figures, but i'm pretty sure thier W-L record is worse when he starts at PG, and that's what WDL is referring too.

A big part of this trades impact will be how he assimilates to a reduced role.

  In that case I say that we don't start him at pg. Problem solved.

[Fafnir]

Confirmed.
Nate could be like Gasol.
Good player on crappy team until trade and then you see the real player.

Gasol had lead Memphis to a 50 win season.

Gasol was the only player on that squad. I am not saying Nate is Gasol, but the comparison of potentially good players on bad teams.

Except in Nate's case, he isn't even close to the best player on that bad team.


In fact, when he plays for the bad team, it gets worse. 

What's your basis for that claim?

I don't have the figures, but i'm pretty sure thier W-L record is worse when he starts at PG, and that's what WDL is referring too.

A big part of this trades impact will be how he assimilates to a reduced role.

Exactly, can he handle getting 15 minutes a night?

As for the W-L record, they're not all that much worse without him. Well within whatever margin of error, his net plus/minus and other numbers tells me he can have a positive impact for a team on the court. We'll see if he can handle doing it with fewer shot attempts and minutes.

[Mike-Dub]

jeskeets    RT @alanhahn: Nate Robinson trade official: Nate and Marcus Landry for Eddie House, JR Giddens and Bill Walker.
less than a minute ago from TweetDeck

It's official.

[celticinorlando]

jeskeets    RT @alanhahn: Nate Robinson trade official: Nate and Marcus Landry for Eddie House, JR Giddens and Bill Walker.
less than a minute ago from TweetDeck

It's official.

great...now will he play tonight?

[jdpapa3]

I just don't want him.


He plays at the begining of the season, Knicks not good.
He is out of the rotation, Knicks ok.



More to the point

With Nate, 10-21
Without Nate 9-12

here is what I posted before.

FACTS say that NYK is better when he is in the game opposed to when he is not.

[celts55]

jeskeets    RT @alanhahn: Nate Robinson trade official: Nate and Marcus Landry for Eddie House, JR Giddens and Bill Walker.
less than a minute ago from TweetDeck

It's official.

great...now will he play tonight?

Yeah, Great. I'm sure that now the Celtics will win it all. 

[Greeny]

jeskeets    RT @alanhahn: Nate Robinson trade official: Nate and Marcus Landry for Eddie House, JR Giddens and Bill Walker.
less than a minute ago from TweetDeck

It's official.

Yes,
I posted it was official about 25 minutes ago.

[Evantime34]

jeskeets    RT @alanhahn: Nate Robinson trade official: Nate and Marcus Landry for Eddie House, JR Giddens and Bill Walker.
less than a minute ago from TweetDeck

It's official.

great...now will he play tonight?

Spears said he flew to LA yesterda, so yes. I doubt he plays a lot because he doesn't know our sets.

[StartOrien]

I just don't want him.


He plays at the begining of the season, Knicks not good.
He is out of the rotation, Knicks ok.



More to the point

With Nate, 10-21
Without Nate 9-12

here is what I posted before.

FACTS say that NYK is better when he is in the game opposed to when he is not.

His player efficiency numbers hint that he's not able to blow out a birthday cake while dunking.

[Evantime34]

Confirmed.
Nate could be like Gasol.
Good player on crappy team until trade and then you see the real player.

Gasol had lead Memphis to a 50 win season.

Gasol was the only player on that squad. I am not saying Nate is Gasol, but the comparison of potentially good players on bad teams.

Except in Nate's case, he isn't even close to the best player on that bad team.


In fact, when he plays for the bad team, it gets worse. 

I would like you to give Nate a chance. I think he will do well. In exchange for you giving him a chance I will create a thread dedicated to your greatness if I am wrong. Deal?