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Re: If the Bucks called and offered Rondo for Jennings, would you?
« Reply #60 on: November 23, 2009, 06:41:07 PM »

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Sure Brandon Jennings might tail off but read this stat.   Brandon Jennings is the first rookie with 6 25 point games before Thanksgiving since a rookie named Michael Jordan did it in 1984.   Again the first rookie to do this in 25 years and a PG nonetheless while also averaging 5.5 assists and barely played at all last year in Europe.   Also even though his team might have had  a light schedule so far but still 8-3 with some very subpar talent playing minus Redd for all but 2 games.   Very Very very impressive. 

And for those who think he is Iverson like here is what his coach Scott Skiles has to say whose opinion matters most. 

"He's one of those guys who has vision and can score without dominating the ball. It's easy to say I want a point guard to run my club and all that, but in the NBA a point guard has got to score some points for you, and he can do both,"

His coach went on to compare him to Tiny Archibald.

I'm not willing to put this guy on a pedestal just yet but I would think long and hard about pulling the trigger on this deal if we could do it salary wise. 


Re: If the Bucks called and offered Rondo for Jennings, would you?
« Reply #61 on: November 23, 2009, 06:47:37 PM »

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Re: If the Bucks called and offered Rondo for Jennings, would you?
« Reply #62 on: November 23, 2009, 07:26:39 PM »

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And for those who think he is Iverson like here is what his coach Scott Skiles has to say whose opinion matters most. 

"He's one of those guys who has vision and can score without dominating the ball. It's easy to say I want a point guard to run my club and all that, but in the NBA a point guard has got to score some points for you, and he can do both,"

His coach went on to compare him to Tiny Archibald.

I'm not willing to put this guy on a pedestal just yet but I would think long and hard about pulling the trigger on this deal if we could do it salary wise. 



I agree with Skiles there. Jennings generates more ball and player movement in a game than guys like Mo Williams and Ramon Sessions, to name his predecessors, in a season.

Iverson had a big problem (among others): he was a volume scorer but extremely inefficient. Nobody would complain about Iverson taking too many shots if he was scoring efficiently, just like nobody complains about Bird, Jordan or James (in all fairness though, in some of the teams he played for Iverson's inefficiency was probably a better option than getting more shots to his teammates). But so far Jennings has been extremely efficient (although he can't keep this pace).

Iverson was a good passer; the issue is that he relied too much on handling the ball and on the 1on1 game to create for others. Jennings is a completely different player, he runs the offence very well for a rookie PG (from this rookie class, I think Maynor is the only one that comes close).

Re: If the Bucks called and offered Rondo for Jennings, would you?
« Reply #63 on: November 24, 2009, 04:23:33 PM »

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Mixed feelings on this.  I'm not a big fan of high scoring PG's because even if they have good assist numbers they tend to dominate the ball.  IMO Chris Paul is the perfect example of this, as great a player as he is. Without him the effort of the other players is more productive because they are more involved in the game.  I think Jennings would have to give up shot attempts if he wanted to fit the Celtics system, if he was able to do that then I would like the move.

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« Reply #64 on: November 25, 2009, 08:27:11 AM »

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yes. Jennings is already a better offensive player than Rondo ever will be. And he can hit a free throw...

Re: If the Bucks called and offered Rondo for Jennings, would you?
« Reply #65 on: November 25, 2009, 09:43:38 AM »

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And for those who think he is Iverson like here is what his coach Scott Skiles has to say whose opinion matters most. 

"He's one of those guys who has vision and can score without dominating the ball. It's easy to say I want a point guard to run my club and all that, but in the NBA a point guard has got to score some points for you, and he can do both,"

His coach went on to compare him to Tiny Archibald.

I'm not willing to put this guy on a pedestal just yet but I would think long and hard about pulling the trigger on this deal if we could do it salary wise. 



I agree with Skiles there. Jennings generates more ball and player movement in a game than guys like Mo Williams and Ramon Sessions, to name his predecessors, in a season.

Iverson had a big problem (among others): he was a volume scorer but extremely inefficient. Nobody would complain about Iverson taking too many shots if he was scoring efficiently, just like nobody complains about Bird, Jordan or James (in all fairness though, in some of the teams he played for Iverson's inefficiency was probably a better option than getting more shots to his teammates). But so far Jennings has been extremely efficient (although he can't keep this pace).


  Not that I'm an AI fan, but if you told Jennings that he needed to score 30 for the Bucks to win and told the opposition that Jennings needs to score 30 for the Bucks to win his scoring efficiency would nosedive. Possibly it's a coincidence, but up through his 55 point game Jennings was shooting 49% from the field, 57% on threes. Since that game he's 41% from the field and 38% on threes.

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« Reply #66 on: November 25, 2009, 10:21:39 AM »

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I'll probably get bashed for this but Rondo is kinda overrated. I'd do this without question. Jennings has more potential and is already a better offensive player.
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Re: If the Bucks called and offered Rondo for Jennings, would you?
« Reply #67 on: November 25, 2009, 10:26:20 AM »

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I'll probably get bashed for this but Rondo is kinda overrated. I'd do this without question. Jennings has more potential and is already a better offensive player.
I'm not so sure about that. Efficiency is just as important as the ability to shoot.

He clearly has more offensive potential.

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« Reply #68 on: November 25, 2009, 12:14:40 PM »

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I'll probably get bashed for this but Rondo is kinda overrated. I'd do this without question. Jennings has more potential and is already a better offensive player.
I'm not so sure about that. Efficiency is just as important as the ability to shoot.

He clearly has more offensive potential.

Are you saying Rondo is more efficient than Jennings?

I'll say this, going forward we won't have a stacked team so who would any one of us be more comfortable with building a franchise around?

Jennings is the clear answer.

Rondo's efficiency will be erased once he isn't playing with the Big 3.

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« Reply #69 on: November 25, 2009, 12:23:45 PM »

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I'll probably get bashed for this but Rondo is kinda overrated. I'd do this without question. Jennings has more potential and is already a better offensive player.
I'm not so sure about that. Efficiency is just as important as the ability to shoot.

He clearly has more offensive potential.

Are you saying Rondo is more efficient than Jennings?

I'll say this, going forward we won't have a stacked team so who would any one of us be more comfortable with building a franchise around?

Jennings is the clear answer.

Rondo's efficiency will be erased once he isn't playing with the Big 3.
Jennings efficiency is roughly equivalent to Rondo's for the current season. Jennings was fueled by his amazing shooting streak for the first ten games or so, its now coming back down to earth. Its going to continue to fall in my opinion.

He has more offensive potential, but he's not the better offensive player now. Especially when you consider more than just his individual offensive game.

People claiming he's already a better offensive player are just getting caught up in his amazing start to the season.

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« Reply #70 on: November 25, 2009, 12:52:36 PM »

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I'll probably get bashed for this but Rondo is kinda overrated. I'd do this without question. Jennings has more potential and is already a better offensive player.
I'm not so sure about that. Efficiency is just as important as the ability to shoot.

He clearly has more offensive potential.

Are you saying Rondo is more efficient than Jennings?

I'll say this, going forward we won't have a stacked team so who would any one of us be more comfortable with building a franchise around?

Jennings is the clear answer.

Rondo's efficiency will be erased once he isn't playing with the Big 3.
Jennings efficiency is roughly equivalent to Rondo's for the current season. Jennings was fueled by his amazing shooting streak for the first ten games or so, its now coming back down to earth. Its going to continue to fall in my opinion.

He has more offensive potential, but he's not the better offensive player now. Especially when you consider more than just his individual offensive game.

People claiming he's already a better offensive player are just getting caught up in his amazing start to the season.

I am with you Fafnir, but you have to realize that there are people here who think that Gerald Green and Rondo have similar values. Unless Rondo becomes a good shooter, he will continue to be vastly underrated by some.

Is Jennings a good pick? Yes, but is he the next Kobe? I will reserve my opinion on that one until I see more...


Re: If the Bucks called and offered Rondo for Jennings, would you?
« Reply #71 on: November 25, 2009, 01:38:17 PM »

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I'll probably get bashed for this but Rondo is kinda overrated. I'd do this without question. Jennings has more potential and is already a better offensive player.

You have supporters out there my friend. I feel like i'm one of the handful who think the same thing as well.
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Re: If the Bucks called and offered Rondo for Jennings, would you?
« Reply #72 on: November 25, 2009, 01:41:46 PM »

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I'll probably get bashed for this but Rondo is kinda overrated. I'd do this without question. Jennings has more potential and is already a better offensive player.

You have supporters out there my friend. I feel like i'm one of the handful who think the same thing as well.

Rondo is overrated, but so is Jennings.  His FG% is going to tank by the end of the season... and his Iverson-esque (jack up anything anytime anywhere) style wouldn't mesh well with this team. 

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« Reply #73 on: November 25, 2009, 01:59:36 PM »

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I'll probably get bashed for this but Rondo is kinda overrated. I'd do this without question. Jennings has more potential and is already a better offensive player.

You have supporters out there my friend. I feel like i'm one of the handful who think the same thing as well.

Rondo is overrated, but so is Jennings.  His FG% is going to tank by the end of the season... and his Iverson-esque (jack up anything anytime anywhere) style wouldn't mesh well with this team. 

  Opinions vary. There are as many here who underrate Rondo as overrate him.

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« Reply #74 on: November 25, 2009, 03:35:14 PM »

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If it became apparent that we were not going to win the NBA championship this year. IE season ending injury to paul pierce or Kevin Garnett, then this deal would make a lot of sense. It would allow us to shave like 9 million off the books the next 3 seasons so we could remain a contender as Jennings continued to grow. Rondo will probably be a better player over his career in my guess, but 30 million worth over a three year period I'm not so sure. Unfortunately it kind of sucks the fun and probably the theme behind these ideas when you look at them for purely financial reasons. Ladies and gentlemen the NBA!