More trouble with Delonte West

[BballTim]

Sad really. Just read the story about Pierce talking about Antoine Walker and how things have backslid for him so far and it's clear now West is right behind him. At this point West makes Tony Allen look like Ray Allen. I wouldn't touch Delonte with a 10 foot pole right now.

apples and oranges. One seems to have made poor financial decisions, one has a medical condition.

I like them both, but other than being ex-celtics, they don't share much in common.

Sorry, but Delonte has made a lot of bad decisions lately.  Illness doesn't excuse his poor decisions.  Wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole as someone else said here.  I know people with his disorders (as I'm probably sure you do too) and they don't make poor decisions like Delonte has.

  This is kind of like saying that I know a few people who have survived cancer so nobody should ever die of it.

[bucknersrevenge]

Sad really. Just read the story about Pierce talking about Antoine Walker and how things have backslid for him so far and it's clear now West is right behind him. At this point West makes Tony Allen look like Ray Allen. I wouldn't touch Delonte with a 10 foot pole right now.

apples and oranges. One seems to have made poor financial decisions, one has a medical condition.

I like them both, but other than being ex-celtics, they don't share much in common.

Sorry, but Delonte has made a lot of bad decisions lately.  Illness doesn't excuse his poor decisions.  Wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole as someone else said here.  I know people with his disorders (as I'm probably sure you do too) and they don't make poor decisions like Delonte has.

TP and Thank you. Illness or not West is not absolved from being a responsible sane human being. Why does a person need 3 guns strapped to himself going down the road on his motorcycle. At least if it was Walker I could understand. West didn't exactly get robbed at gunpoint did he? Apples, oranges...either way they're both pretty fruity. And both are quickly becoming a cautionary tale. Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf(Chris Jackson) made it through the league with a mental disorder. Not to compare OCD with bi-polar because they are different but everyone is faced with choices. You can choose to make things worse by getting arrested repeatedly or you can get the help you need and change. I'm just glad this happened after his time with the Celtics. This franchise doesn't need this kind of pub. Not in this city.

[Bankshot]

Sad really. Just read the story about Pierce talking about Antoine Walker and how things have backslid for him so far and it's clear now West is right behind him. At this point West makes Tony Allen look like Ray Allen. I wouldn't touch Delonte with a 10 foot pole right now.

apples and oranges. One seems to have made poor financial decisions, one has a medical condition.

I like them both, but other than being ex-celtics, they don't share much in common.

Sorry, but Delonte has made a lot of bad decisions lately.  Illness doesn't excuse his poor decisions.  Wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole as someone else said here.  I know people with his disorders (as I'm probably sure you do too) and they don't make poor decisions like Delonte has.

  This is kind of like saying that I know a few people who have survived cancer so nobody should ever die of it.

No it's not. 

Seems that every time Delonte does something stupid or makes a poor decision, people here blame it on bipolar.  So I guess everyone who makes poor decisions should be checked for that illness too.  Sometimes people just make bad decisions, doesn't mean he made the poor decision because he's bipolar.  Maybe he's just not that smart, which I have suspected for some time.

[Brickowski]

Well, if Delonte had problems off the court last year, he had very few on the court.  He was Cleveland's second best player after LeBron in the playoffs. IMHO he is a better all around player than Mo Williams, and much more clutch.

I wish him well.

[Chris]

Sad really. Just read the story about Pierce talking about Antoine Walker and how things have backslid for him so far and it's clear now West is right behind him. At this point West makes Tony Allen look like Ray Allen. I wouldn't touch Delonte with a 10 foot pole right now.

apples and oranges. One seems to have made poor financial decisions, one has a medical condition.

I like them both, but other than being ex-celtics, they don't share much in common.

Sorry, but Delonte has made a lot of bad decisions lately.  Illness doesn't excuse his poor decisions.  Wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole as someone else said here.  I know people with his disorders (as I'm probably sure you do too) and they don't make poor decisions like Delonte has.

  This is kind of like saying that I know a few people who have survived cancer so nobody should ever die of it.

No it's not. 

Seems that every time Delonte does something stupid or makes a poor decision, people here blame it on bipolar.  So I guess everyone who makes poor decisions should be checked for that illness too.

I think you are making the wrong argument here.  You are certainly making it sound like you do not believe his bipolar disorder has anything to do with the decisions he has been making.  If you want to argue that the disease does not excuse his actions, fine, I agree with you.  However, to say that the two things are not related is naive.

[crownsy]

Sad really. Just read the story about Pierce talking about Antoine Walker and how things have backslid for him so far and it's clear now West is right behind him. At this point West makes Tony Allen look like Ray Allen. I wouldn't touch Delonte with a 10 foot pole right now.

apples and oranges. One seems to have made poor financial decisions, one has a medical condition.

I like them both, but other than being ex-celtics, they don't share much in common.

Sorry, but Delonte has made a lot of bad decisions lately.  Illness doesn't excuse his poor decisions.  Wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole as someone else said here.  I know people with his disorders (as I'm probably sure you do too) and they don't make poor decisions like Delonte has.

  This is kind of like saying that I know a few people who have survived cancer so nobody should ever die of it.

No it's not. 

Seems that every time Delonte does something stupid or makes a poor decision, people here blame it on bipolar.  So I guess everyone who makes poor decisions should be checked for that illness too.

actually, it is.

you made a broad generalization with no facts. what kind of bi polar disorder does delonte have? is it depression? schizophrenia?

we don't know. or at least, i don't mabey you do.

If he's a schizophrenic, it could actually go along way towards explaining why he thought he might "need" to have 3 guns and be driving around aimlessly on a motorcycle.

Not to reference an old thread, but this divide reminds me of when we had a discussion on mental disorders and a significant percentage of the blog was of the opinion that they weren't real disorders of behavior, but excuses by people who made poor decisions to justify their actions to themselves and others.

I disagreed strongly then, and i do so now.



EDIT to the above EDIT of your post: yea, mabey he's just stupid,that seems more logical.

Come on bankshot, i know you don't agree that his mental condition is a serious issue, but that's low man. as someone who has a relative that's bi-polar, that's pretty crass and silly.

[Brickowski]

Bipolar people can lose control of themselves during their "manic" periods. This often results in severe anger and other inappropriate behavior.

No one here knows the extent to which West's bipolar disorder contributed to his string of problems, and West himself probably doesn't know either.

One thing I do know is that he needs a psychopharmacologist-- a really good one. Either he isn't taking his meds or they aren't working.

[Bankshot]

Well, I sure hope Delonte is getting the help he needs.

[twinbree]

Sad news. I hope he can sort through these problems and get back to playing. IMO Delonte > Mo "I fall down everytime I make a jumpshot instead of running back on defense" Williams. He played a big part in what they accomplished last year and it'll be a shame if he can't come back to help them try to have a more successful season this year.

[Finkelskyhook]

what kind of bi polar disorder does delonte have?

Somebody please enlighten me...There are variations of this "disorder"?  So could that be like tri-polar?  Quad-polar?  Polar-squared? 

Whenever the incredibly corrupt mental health (oxymoron) industry has a slow period, all of these imaginary "disorders" come in to save the day for them.

ADD...ADHD...Bi-Polar...Stop making excuses for people to do bad things...

Having said that....Roy Hobbs is the voice of reason here...I wouldn't assume that Delonte did anything wrong here.

[ToppersBsktball10]

Isn't his wife crazy?

[Roy Hobbs]

Isn't his wife crazy?

He had problems with one suicidal girlfriend, I know.  I'm not sure if they got married.

[ToppersBsktball10]

Isn't his wife crazy?

He had problems with one suicidal girlfriend, I know.  I'm not sure if they got married.

I think it's the same girl but I'm not sure. But I've heard she's made a few problems for Delonte that he wasn't involved in.

[ToppersBsktball10]

Anyways, good luck Delonte. Just focus on Second Place in the East.  ha but really, good luck to Delonte, hope everything turns out right for him, Mo Williams on the other hand...

[Spilling Green Dye]

When people on here talk about Sweetney, Vin Baker, or others, they mostly comment on how the person blew an opportunity to play more in the nba and their lack of self discipline caused them to become who they are. 

Delonte ran out of excuses awhile ago for me, and I don't care to hear about him anymore or the excuses people make for him on here.  His "healthy" side should make sure he's taking the right meds, and he should surround himself with the right people.  He's got more trouble than Tony Allen & Bassy combined, and I don't want him on the Celtics again.  He's now a cavalier and part of our roadblock to a championship.  I'm not wishing ill on him, just saying that he's not good enough (outside of his nba play) to warrant being a Celtic.