2009 Celticsblog Draft: Voting Analysis : Team of the Future

[bucknersrevenge]

The vote wasnt not counted because it went against the majority it was for other reasons.  And you are right that just because the majority thinks one way doesn't make it right, but at the same time, if the majority agrees good or bad there are probably good reasons that the majority voted that way. 

If there were extenuating circumstances I was not privy to then I immediately retract that part of what I said. And to clarify when I say I used the term "screwed" I don't mean "strategic" or "retaliatory" voting(because I don't think you can really prove that). Just that it's a shame because I think they were better. By no means am I attacking voters saying a consensus simply conspired to keep those teams out. I know that's not true. I mean it in the same way MLB all-star voting almost always "screws" 1 or 2 guys each year simply because there aren't enough spots. That's the kind of "screwed" I'm referring to here.

[Rondo2287]

Ya Buckner I can agree with you on that one.  I think there were definitely teams that I think were good enough to make the playoffs but there just werent enough spots.  So teams that I really liked like Memphis and Cleveland got left out 

[bucknersrevenge]

Which 4?

By my count Rockets, Jazz, Spurs and Twolves. All should've been higher in my opinion. But again that's what makes it my opinion. It is what it is.

I guess it's 5 then, because me as the 7 seed is outlandish.

Evan if you feel that way I respect that. I felt my team was good enough to be a playoff team. Enough people thought otherwise in both our cases. It is what is. If you had fun putting that group together and YOU like what you did then that's what matters.

[Roy Hobbs]

East unofficial results:

1 Magic 48
2 Bulls 72
3 Rapts 100
4 Sixers 140
5 Celts 183
6 Nets 193
7 Pistons 221
8 Boxers 251
9 Cavs 256
10 Knicks 284
11 Bucks 318
12 Pacers 329
13 Hawks 342
14 Heat 419
15 Bobcats 423

We may have to do a recount here.

There were 30 ballots, meaning the total cumulative score should add up to 30 x 120, = 3600.

Right now, they're at 3579, meaning 21 "points" are missing.

EDIT:  The votes for Washington and Cleveland are both accurate, though.  The other results aren't close enough to worry about.

[Rondo2287]

[johnnyrondo]

Not sure who threw the red flag onMaestro's vote but I watched him when he edited to make the comment and his picks stayed the same. Also for consistency's sake I also watched while one of portland's votes was edited several times. That vote might have more significance as I believe It had  jersey 7 spots ahead of detroit. If nick's count is correct jersey still wins the 6th seed by 1 point fwiw

[Roy Hobbs]

Not sure who threw the red flag onMaestro's vote but I watched him when he edited to make the comment and his picks stayed the same. Also for consistency's sake I also watched while one of portland's votes was edited several times. That vote might have more significance as I believe It had  jersey 7 spots ahead of detroit. If nick's count is correct jersey still wins the 6th seed by 1 point fwiw

CM's vote was edited, which for better or for worse, is strictly against the rules.  Out of curiosity, why were you watching CM's vote so intimately at 4:58am EST?

You're correct that Edgar's vote was edited in the East, as well.  That vote should be disqualified, too.

[Roy Hobbs]

Not sure who threw the red flag onMaestro's vote but I watched him when he edited to make the comment and his picks stayed the same. Also for consistency's sake I also watched while one of portland's votes was edited several times. That vote might have more significance as I believe It had  jersey 7 spots ahead of detroit. If nick's count is correct jersey still wins the 6th seed by 1 point fwiw

CM's vote was edited, which for better or for worse, is strictly against the rules.  Out of curiosity, why were you watching CM's vote so intimately at 4:58am EST?

You're correct that Edgar's vote was edited in the East, as well.  That vote should be disqualified, too.

If Edgar's vote is disqualified, that means that Cleveland and Washington tied for the last playoff slot.  Ouch.

[johnnyrondo]

Not sure who threw the red flag onMaestro's vote but I watched him when he edited to make the comment and his picks stayed the same. Also for consistency's sake I also watched while one of portland's votes was edited several times. That vote might have more significance as I believe It had  jersey 7 spots ahead of detroit. If nick's count is correct jersey still wins the 6th seed by 1 point fwiw

CM's vote was edited, which for better or for worse, is strictly against the rules.  Out of curiosity, why were you watching CM's vote so intimately at 4:58am EST?

You're correct that Edgar's vote was edited in the East, as well.  That vote should be disqualified, too.

  not why your asking that intimate question. Lol. And not sure the exact time maestro made his vote. Inaniphone right now. But out of curiosity out of all the times you went through the seeding votes how come you never noticed edgars edited post? For the record again neither maestro with his one edit or Edgar with his many edits ever changed their votes.
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[Roy Hobbs]

Not sure who threw the red flag onMaestro's vote but I watched him when he edited to make the comment and his picks stayed the same. Also for consistency's sake I also watched while one of portland's votes was edited several times. That vote might have more significance as I believe It had  jersey 7 spots ahead of detroit. If nick's count is correct jersey still wins the 6th seed by 1 point fwiw

CM's vote was edited, which for better or for worse, is strictly against the rules.  Out of curiosity, why were you watching CM's vote so intimately at 4:58am EST?

You're correct that Edgar's vote was edited in the East, as well.  That vote should be disqualified, too.

  not why your asking that intimate question. Lol. And not sure the exact time maestro made his vote. Inaniphone right now. But out of curiosity out of all the times you went through the seeding votes how come you never noticed edgars edited post? For the record again neither maestro with his one edit or Edgar with his many edits ever changed their votes.

I didn't notice Edgar's vote because it was in the Eastern Conference seeding, obviously.  Portland, you may have noticed, is in the West. 

[johnnyrondo]

Portland's in the west? Next thing I'll find out is that buffalo is in the west too.   I was under the impression you not only voted in the east but also looked at the vote numbers. 

[Roy Hobbs]

Portland's in the west? Next thing I'll find out is that buffalo is in the west too.   I was under the impression you not only voted in the east but also looked at the vote numbers. 

I voted.  I only compiled the results in the West.  I verified the rankings of Washington and Cleveland, but didn't look at all the ballots.  When I did that, I used Ctrl-F to look search for those two franchises, to make things faster.  That's why I didn't notice Edgar's edit until you mentioned it.

I'm not exactly sure why you're implying I'm doing something under-handed; I couldn't care less about the East seeding, and in the West, the results didn't change at all (and certainly weren't going to change for Portland, regardless.)  However, Dons indicated that edited ballots had to be tossed.  That being the case, my co-GM's probably has to be disregarded, as well as maestro's.  I'm not sure what there is for me to gain by that.

[KCattheStripe]

Portland's in the west? Next thing I'll find out is that buffalo is in the west too.   I was under the impression you not only voted in the east but also looked at the vote numbers. 

I voted.  I only compiled the results in the West.  I verified the rankings of Washington and Cleveland, but didn't look at all the ballots.  When I did that, I used Ctrl-F to look search for those two franchises, to make things faster.  That's why I didn't notice Edgar's edit until you mentioned it.

I'm not exactly sure why you're implying I'm doing something under-handed; I couldn't care less about the East seeding, and in the West, the results didn't change at all (and certainly weren't going to change for Portland, regardless.)  However, Dons indicated that edited ballots had to be tossed.  That being the case, my co-GM's probably has to be disregarded, as well as maestro's.  I'm not sure what there is for me to gain by that.

I DEMAND A REVOTE! This process is tainted and I am sorely disappointed in my fellow Celtics Bloggers!

[Edgar]

Portland's in the west? Next thing I'll find out is that buffalo is in the west too.   I was under the impression you not only voted in the east but also looked at the vote numbers. 

I voted.  I only compiled the results in the West.  I verified the rankings of Washington and Cleveland, but didn't look at all the ballots.  When I did that, I used Ctrl-F to look search for those two franchises, to make things faster.  That's why I didn't notice Edgar's edit until you mentioned it.

I'm not exactly sure why you're implying I'm doing something under-handed; I couldn't care less about the East seeding, and in the West, the results didn't change at all (and certainly weren't going to change for Portland, regardless.)  However, Dons indicated that edited ballots had to be tossed.  That being the case, my co-GM's probably has to be disregarded, as well as maestro's.  I'm not sure what there is for me to gain by that.

me mine voted edited?
when where how???
ohh god imposible
really really?? how so.


If it worth anything, I dont have a clue what u are talking about
I never edited a vote
I only write a line between things while posting because the work was hard and i had 3 vodka and cokes...

ohh humanity

[nickagneta]

Okay, a mod, knowingly, went into his vote and edited it and because of that there's a chance that not only that vote will be disallowed although there is some question as to whether the order of the vote was even changed, but also because DL's vote got thrown out because he put one team out of order at the bottom of the vote, the Boxers might lose several important points that might cost them a playoff spot?

And people in the West are talking about getting screwed because they were voted 7th instead of 5th?