2009 Celticsblog Draft: Voting Analysis : Team of the Future

[dark_lord]

And you still can't answer the question.  Can we get a ruling on this.  We all know this vote is a joke.  Can we just make it official so i can go to bed?

a joke?  what did i do that was against the rules?  i voted and validated it.  i did nothing wrong here.  u just dont like my vote.  sorry

[Rondo2287]

You clearly have an agenda here, everybody knows it.  You made it clear in the other thread that you didnt like my PM asking you to stop being so judgmental and you are bringing it to the game which you are not involved in. 

[dark_lord]

You clearly have an agenda here, everybody knows it.  You made it clear in the other thread that you didnt like my PM asking you to stop being so judgmental and you are bringing it to the game which you are not involved in. 

true i didnt like ur pm.  u were out of line and wrong for that.  dont sugar coat what u said in the pm.

but that doesnt have to do with my voting.  i validated why i think toronto isnt good, imo.  voting is about personal opinion.  i personally just dont think your toronto team is very good.

[Rondo2287]

I dont think my PM was wrong and I think your actions here are proving that as a poster you really dont have a good attitude.  If you were trying to be, "That guy" mission accomplished sir. 

[dark_lord]

I dont think my PM was wrong and I think your actions here are proving that as a poster you really dont have a good attitude.  If you were trying to be, "That guy" mission accomplished sir. 

per the rules, voting is for everyone, not just the gm's.  i voted, i validated.  i did nothing against the rules here.  sorry u dont agree with my vote.  its like saying someone was wrong for voting for obama bc u personally disagreed.  voting is about personal opinion and interpretation.

[Rondo2287]

Yet you cannot tell me how a team that is self admittedly, " Not trying to win this year" who voted me above their own team, and who told me, "You are clearly the best team on here," can beat my team.  Your vote is a joke sir and everybody here knows it. 

[Roy Hobbs]

Let's simmer down, guys.  I'm sure Dons is going to weigh in on this.

[dark_lord]

Yet you cannot tell me how a team that is self admittedly, " Not trying to win this year" who voted me above their own team, and who told me, "You are clearly the best team on here," can beat my team.  Your vote is a joke sir and everybody here knows it. 

ur clearly not going to move on from my vote...so i say to u, read my last post.  it sums everything up, not matter how u feel about my vote.

[KCattheStripe]

Sometimes I think its almost not worth it drafting a good team in this.

Rondo, no sense in losing sleep over this.

[dark_lord]

Let's simmer down, guys.  I'm sure Dons is going to weigh in on this.

dons pm'd me and i validated to him as well.  i did nothing against the rules here guys.  if i did something against the rules, id understand wanting to remove my vote.  but i gave a valid argument as to my insight for my voting.

[Rondo2287]

So please back up your opinion with some facts because you have yet to do that, you have no evidence on your side and every other poster that has posted here has disagreed with your statement that my team is dead last.  

[dark_lord]

So please back up your opinion with some facts because you have yet to do that, you have no evidence on your side and every other poster that has posted here has disagreed with your statement that my team is dead last.  

since i have been asked to validate toronto as my last place team, here it goes:


i believe their bench is very week. big z and finley are over the hill and dont bring much to the table.  barea is ok, but is very undersized.  i think he had some success bc he caught people off guard, but now teams know how to play him. belinelli is overrated on these boards.  he is very soft...a physical guard would kill him.  warrick is average at best.  maynor and griffin are garbage, imo.

andre miller is vastly overrated.  he pounds the ball too much and is average at best. he would be a solid backup but not as a starter, imo.  garcia is a role player off the bench, solid, but nothing more than average, imo.  artest is very good, but he is a wildcard.  i wouldnt want him on my team if i were a gm bc he is unpredictable and has a history of imploding teams.  kg, their best player is coming of a major knee injury and is an older player (love him, but being objective).  camby is another player vastly overrated in these boards.  solid defender, but not a lockdown big, imo bc of his lack of strength and size. he brings nothing offensively. 

a few great defenders, but only decent defensively as a team. but they lack good offensive power. should have kept arenas, instead of trading for miller.

[Kwhit10]

I understand that DL validated his vote, I just find it hard to believe that he would still place Toronto any lower than 13th.

[Rondo2287]

So please back up your opinion with some facts because you have yet to do that, you have no evidence on your side and every other poster that has posted here has disagreed with your statement that my team is dead last.  

since i have been asked to validate toronto as my last place team, here it goes:


i believe their bench is very week. big z and finley are over the hill and dont bring much to the table.  barea is ok, but is very undersized.  i think he had some success bc he caught people off guard, but now teams know how to play him. belinelli is overrated on these boards.  he is very soft...a physical guard would kill him.  warrick is average at best.  maynor and griffin are garbage, imo.

andre miller is vastly overrated.  he pounds the ball too much and is average at best. he would be a solid backup but not as a starter, imo.  garcia is a role player off the bench, solid, but nothing more than average, imo.  artest is very good, but he is a wildcard.  i wouldnt want him on my team if i were a gm bc he is unpredictable and has a history of imploding teams.  kg, their best player is coming of a major knee injury and is an older player (love him, but being objective).  camby is another player vastly overrated in these boards.  solid defender, but not a lockdown big, imo bc of his lack of strength and size. he brings nothing offensively. 

a few great defenders, but only decent defensively as a team. but they lack good offensive power. should have kept arenas, instead of trading for miller.

those are all opinions and opinions that most people that understand basketball would disagree with. Im looking for facts like statistics or analysts that agree with you. I can say Jaba the hut is skinny.  But that doesnt make it so

[Hoyo de Monterrey]

since i have been asked to validate toronto as my last place team, here it goes:


i believe their bench is very week. big z and finley are over the hill and dont bring much to the table.  barea is ok, but is very undersized.  i think he had some success bc he caught people off guard, but now teams know how to play him. belinelli is overrated on these boards.  he is very soft...a physical guard would kill him.  warrick is average at best.  maynor and griffin are garbage, imo.

andre miller is vastly overrated.  he pounds the ball too much and is average at best. he would be a solid backup but not as a starter, imo.  garcia is a role player off the bench, solid, but nothing more than average, imo.  artest is very good, but he is a wildcard.  i wouldnt want him on my team if i were a gm bc he is unpredictable and has a history of imploding teams.  kg, their best player is coming of a major knee injury and is an older player (love him, but being objective).  camby is another player vastly overrated in these boards.  solid defender, but not a lockdown big, imo bc of his lack of strength and size. he brings nothing offensively. 

a few great defenders, but only decent defensively as a team. but they lack good offensive power. should have kept arenas, instead of trading for miller.

DL I'm just curious, would you mind validating why you voted Charlotte at 14 over Toronto? What put them ahead of the Raptors?