Guess who's back?? Starbury!!! (unconfirmed rumor)

[HYPE.]

Source.

A blog/website called New England Sports 24/7 is reporting that Stephon will be back in Boston.  (link is now dead due to too much traffic that blew up their servers, ...sorry about that - I remember those days)

Apparently, he also stated on his webchat that we would like to return, but contradicted that statement by saying he was considering playing in Europe. Don't know how much validity this holds since I wasn't watching the chat, but hopefully some of you can confirm that he said this.

Just my $0.02 on this situation, though; if Marbury does indeed come back to the Celts, I'm expecting the effort and aggressiveness that he showed in this video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyW2W_e6HSI

[I Am A Boston Celtic]

We're starting to look very solid.....

C - Perkins/Wallace
PF - Garnett/???
SF - Pierce/Daniels
SG - Allen/House
PG - Rondo/Marbury

That is if Marbury signs, which I believe he will.

Lets just hope that the "" is Big Baby.

With that 5, backing up the best starting 5 in the NBA, the championship is only ours to lose.

[P2]

Can anybody re-tell what Marbury said yesterday in his stream? Anything about the Celtics?

LETS GO FOR #19!! ITS ALL OVER!!

We have to go for #18 first.

He is probabky just trying to get some traffic to his site by making up a rumor.

Exactly what I thought. But I really hope it's true.

[P2]

http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=30635.new#new

[Prof. Clutch]

Anyone else start going "Shady's back...tell a friend...guess who's back guess whos back guess who's back...." after they read the thread title?

Heh, same response, only mine didn't come until I was done banging my head off my keyboard trying to clear my vision until the thread title read differently.  Sadly, this didn't work.

-sw

Steve,
Do you really think Marbury will be that bad?  You don't think there's any way he could be a positive acquisition?  I mean, he didn't have the problems that everyone expected him to last year (big ego, team distraction,) and he showed a real effort to be a team guy.  You weren't even at least a little impressed during the season with the effort he made to share the ball and some of the beautiful passes he made?  Do you think that he could be more valuable now with a better bench surrounding him?

I guess what I want to honestly know from you, and from Brick, and from all the guys who are really against the Marbury signing is, what does he have to do in your eyes to be a positive signing?  Is it the numbers he has to average?  His behavior?  What would he have to produce this year for you guys to change your current opinion of him?  And is that production truly and completely out of the realm of possibility for you guys?

[kheeko]

Anyone else start going "Shady's back...tell a friend...guess who's back guess whos back guess who's back...." after they read the thread title?

Heh, same response, only mine didn't come until I was done banging my head off my keyboard trying to clear my vision until the thread title read differently.  Sadly, this didn't work.

-sw

Good questions, I dont get the hate for him maybe peoples expectations were to high.

Steve,
Do you really think Marbury will be that bad?  You don't think there's any way he could be a positive acquisition?  I mean, he didn't have the problems that everyone expected him to last year (big ego, team distraction,) and he showed a real effort to be a team guy.  You weren't even at least a little impressed during the season with the effort he made to share the ball and some of the beautiful passes he made?  Do you think that he could be more valuable now with a better bench surrounding him?

I guess what I want to honestly know from you, and from Brick, and from all the guys who are really against the Marbury signing is, what does he have to do in your eyes to be a positive signing?  Is it the numbers he has to average?  His behavior?  What would he have to produce this year for you guys to change your current opinion of him?  And is that production truly and completely out of the realm of possibility for you guys?

[Green Mountain]

Anyone else start going "Shady's back...tell a friend...guess who's back guess whos back guess who's back...." after they read the thread title?

Heh, same response, only mine didn't come until I was done banging my head off my keyboard trying to clear my vision until the thread title read differently.  Sadly, this didn't work.

-sw

Steve,
Do you really think Marbury will be that bad?  You don't think there's any way he could be a positive acquisition?  I mean, he didn't have the problems that everyone expected him to last year (big ego, team distraction,) and he showed a real effort to be a team guy.  You weren't even at least a little impressed during the season with the effort he made to share the ball and some of the beautiful passes he made?  Do you think that he could be more valuable now with a better bench surrounding him?

I guess what I want to honestly know from you, and from Brick, and from all the guys who are really against the Marbury signing is, what does he have to do in your eyes to be a positive signing?  Is it the numbers he has to average?  His behavior?  What would he have to produce this year for you guys to change your current opinion of him?  And is that production truly and completely out of the realm of possibility for you guys?

He has to actually be able to hit an outside shot. Even he didn't think he could during the playoffs. He wouldn't even shoot when he was open most of the time. The bench needs scorers, not another guy who can't shoot and can't defend. I'm fine if he'll play for the vet minimum. He's not worth the LLE anymore. If your back up pg is a poor defender he'd better [dang] well be able to shoot.

[Casperian]

Anyone else start going "Shady's back...tell a friend...guess who's back guess whos back guess who's back...." after they read the thread title?

Heh, same response, only mine didn't come until I was done banging my head off my keyboard trying to clear my vision until the thread title read differently.  Sadly, this didn't work.

-sw

Steve,
Do you really think Marbury will be that bad?  You don't think there's any way he could be a positive acquisition?  I mean, he didn't have the problems that everyone expected him to last year (big ego, team distraction,) and he showed a real effort to be a team guy.  You weren't even at least a little impressed during the season with the effort he made to share the ball and some of the beautiful passes he made?  Do you think that he could be more valuable now with a better bench surrounding him?

I guess what I want to honestly know from you, and from Brick, and from all the guys who are really against the Marbury signing is, what does he have to do in your eyes to be a positive signing?  Is it the numbers he has to average?  His behavior?  What would he have to produce this year for you guys to change your current opinion of him?  And is that production truly and completely out of the realm of possibility for you guys?

Excuses, imo. The Ivory Tower called the Interwebz has to be the last place where Stephon Marbury still gets respect.

He behaved good because it was his definite last chance to play in the NBA. He didn´t play "unselfish", he passed up wide open shots, and when he shot, he was abysmal. I can remember exactly five good minutes from Marbury in green, and that was just offensively.

I think that Marbury showed exactly what I expected from him when we signed him at the deadline (read: nada), so I don´t know why I should change my expectations now. Guys like Marbury don´t get better because of one off-season, you need work ethic and dedication to get back in shape, two things I don´t think of when I hear "Stephon Marbury". Marbury is done, dead and gone, only a shadow of the former (and already overrated) Starbury. 
What do people expect who are pro-Marbury? What does he have to do to convince his fanboys that he´s done?

What we need is a bigger PG who can shoot the ball from behind the arc, not a once talented do-it-all has-been headcase who didn´t play a good game in three years.

[P2]

What we need is a bigger PG who can shoot the ball from behind the arc, not a once talented do-it-all has-been headcase who didn´t play a good game in three years.

How about 05/12/2009?

[Casperian]

What we need is a bigger PG who can shoot the ball from behind the arc, not a once talented do-it-all has-been headcase who didn´t play a good game in three years.

How about 05/12/2009?

I can remember exactly five good minutes from Marbury in green, and that was just offensively.

[Fafnir]

What we need is a bigger PG who can shoot the ball from behind the arc, not a once talented do-it-all has-been headcase who didn´t play a good game in three years.

How about 05/12/2009?

He referred to that five minute offensive stretch. But he shot 34% from the field people! Over 23 games, doesn't that worry you? After not playing for two years and then playing awful for the 23 games he did play I don't think its illogical to have doubts.

I'd also like to point out he's a career 43% shooter, not exactly lights out.

[lostjumper]

What we need is a bigger PG who can shoot the ball from behind the arc, not a once talented do-it-all has-been headcase who didn´t play a good game in three years.

Name him. Name the "bigger PG who can shoot from behind the arc", and I will also include "can bring the ball up the court against pressure and distributes the ball well". Who's left who can do that better than marbury at this point?

There anser? No one. There's no one left in free agency who can do that, so while you can ask for one, it's not going to happen.

One thing no one can deny about Marbury last year is that he really tried hard. His defense improved to passable by the end, and he defintiely showed some short flashes of what his offensive game can bring. He also passed the ball better than house or pruitt ever did, and could bring the ball up in the face of pressure, which house and pruitt could not do.

I want Marbury to come to training camp and get practice in the system in a training camp environment where he can actually learn it. There were obvious times last year when he was trying to hard to stay within the flow of the offense, but had to think to much. When you're thinking, you can't just react and let instinct take over. If he's with us for an entire year, I think he can shake the rust off, get his shot back, and really help out the 2nd unit.

And if you say no to marbury, please list an example of a free agent who is better than him, and will play for the bi annual exemption or less.

[Fafnir]

What we need is a bigger PG who can shoot the ball from behind the arc, not a once talented do-it-all has-been headcase who didn´t play a good game in three years.

Name him. Name the "bigger PG who can shoot from behind the arc", and I will also include "can bring the ball up the court against pressure and distributes the ball well". Who's left who can do that better than marbury at this point?

There anser? No one. There's no one left in free agency who can do that, so while you can ask for one, it's not going to happen.

One thing no one can deny about Marbury last year is that he really tried hard. His defense improved to passable by the end, and he defintiely showed some short flashes of what his offensive game can bring. He also passed the ball better than house or pruitt ever did, and could bring the ball up in the face of pressure, which house and pruitt could not do.

I want Marbury to come to training camp and get practice in the system in a training camp environment where he can actually learn it. There were obvious times last year when he was trying to hard to stay within the flow of the offense, but had to think to much. When you're thinking, you can't just react and let instinct take over. If he's with us for an entire year, I think he can shake the rust off, get his shot back, and really help out the 2nd unit.

And if you say no to marbury, please list an example of a free agent who is better than him, and will play for the bi annual exemption or less.

We don't know what FAs will play for. But I'd take Rasho, Drew Gooden, Ike Diogu, Udoka, and Joe Smith all over Marbury at the LLE. All better players than Marbury.

[Prof. Clutch]

He has to actually be able to hit an outside shot. Even he didn't think he could during the playoffs. He wouldn't even shoot when he was open most of the time. The bench needs scorers, not another guy who can't shoot and can't defend. I'm fine if he'll play for the vet minimum. He's not worth the LLE anymore. If your back up pg is a poor defender he'd better [dang] well be able to shoot.

I agree, he needs to be able to hit the outside shot.  So I ask again, is this completely out of the realm of possibility?  I differ in your opinion about the needs of our second unit.  We will now be putting out a second unit that will have Daniels (whose shown throughout his career that he can score,) Rasheed (who has a post game and can hit outside shots,) Davis (hopefully, who is more than competent on offense but had to be a starter last year,) and House (who we all know can score in bunches when he is given the ball in the right position.)  That´s exactly my point.  We don´t need offense from Marbury or from our point guard.  We need someone who can set the table, find open guys, deal with backcourt pressure.  Of course Stephon will need to have a reliable enough jumper so that he´s not a liability on offense, but I don´t want Marbury to be a ``scorer.´´  I want Marbury to be a distributor.  And I think he did a good job of that last year (especially setting up House) and could do that better than most of the other available PG´s out there.  Not to mention the fact that he was forced to play with a subpar bench consisting of Moore, Scal, House, and Tony Allen.  None of those guys are scorers so there was more pressure on him to produce points.  That will not be the case with an improved bench this year.

If your answer to my question is that he needs to hit his outside shot, and beyond that you think this is impossible, then I guess we have to agree to disagree.

[Casperian]

What we need is a bigger PG who can shoot the ball from behind the arc, not a once talented do-it-all has-been headcase who didn´t play a good game in three years.

Name him. Name the "bigger PG who can shoot from behind the arc", and I will also include "can bring the ball up the court against pressure and distributes the ball well". Who's left who can do that better than marbury at this point?

...

So, is this a "pick your poison" game?
If there´s noone good available, then just don´t take anyone. Wait what you can get at the trade deadline for our expirings. I´m not concerned about our backup PG situation for the regular season, we won it all in 07/08 with Eddie House and Sam Cassell as backup PGs.
If you can´t get a tall PG, a SG and Eddie at the 1 would do it, too. What we definitly need is another good shooter from behind the arc.