2009 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Thread

[Fafnir]

it would be interesting to see what a vote would look like now...i think the Mavs make it out of the first round this time.

I am interested in a revote.

As long as we can tweak our rosters first, yeah?

What do you mean tweak our rosters? Like open up a new trading session? Or just pick up players off waivers?

Open up trading for a week, see where he goes.

Or just general roster tweaking. For instance I ended the summer thinking my starting 5 was going to be TP/Cook/Chandler/Diaw/Brook Lopez

Now it would be: TP/Chandler/Casspi/Bargs/Lopez.  With Mo Will, Diaw, Cook and Fernadez making up the bench. Remind me again how we missed the playoffs?

I think you'd struggle to make the playoffs again. You'd have some serious trouble defensively.

Aside from Bargs, who is an excellent weakside defender, who on my team would you consider a sieve?

Bargs is not an excellent weakside defender.

Lopez is okay, but he's not a great interior defender, I think you'd struggled to defend the paint with your big rotation. Meanwhile your perimeter defenders are solid, but not spectacular. I think that'd hold your team back.

Add to that Tony Parker is your best player (that's not a good thing with his struggles this year) He and Mo Williams duplicate themselves. If you give both the minutes they deserve you end up with an extremely small backcourt that'd hurt you on the defensive end and the boards.

I think your team would be a middle of the pack team and miss the playoffs by a few games. You could sneak into the eighth spot depending on the conference. This is just looking at your roster though, I don't remember how it compares.

[Evantime34]

I think I would keep most of my starting lineup except I'd replace Maggette with Evans. I also would consider putting in Gallanari then moving Boozer to the 5.

Nash
Evans
Deng
Boozer
Okur

I would also consider moving Evans to a team that wanted to start over young.

[PLamb]

You have no idea..it was nuts. There was one GM, who isn't with us anymore, that actually believed they'd get significant production out of Darko Milicic, Julian Wright, and Tyronn Lue! Joel Pryzbilla was actually his starting center! He was right about Gerald Wallace though. Man he would argue until he was blue in the face sometimes...ah, good times.

Of course, I myself put my faith in Josh Howard as my leading swingman. He's bouncing back now, but he's had a rough season so far.

What an idiot!!

I just took a look at that team

It's not good

Though the Wallace, Jackson, Scola combo is intriguing the rest of that team is awful

There's actually a lot of names that participated in that that I don't recognize

How many people have left since then

[wdleehi]

Still happy with my team of the future.  A little more worried about Oden, but still have the pieces going forward.  Plus, with the injuries, I am probably in prime position to go get John Wall

Denver Nuggets:  Team of the future with high goals now!



The roster:

average age 24.6


Projected Starters
C : Greg Oden
PF: Udonis Haslem
SF: Jeff Green
SG: Miekael Pietrus
PG: Mike Conley Jr.


Projected Reserves

PG/SG Randy Foye
PF/C Kevin Love
SG/SF Kelenna Azubuike
PF/SF Brandon Wright
C/PF  Josh Boone
PG    Mardy Collins
PF/SF Brian Scalabrine
C     Dwayne Jones
SG/SF Morris Almond


15th man/injured
C     Yao Ming


Future players stashed overseas
James Gist
Semih Erden
Nedžad Sinanović
Tadija Dragicevic

[KCattheStripe]

it would be interesting to see what a vote would look like now...i think the Mavs make it out of the first round this time.

I am interested in a revote.

As long as we can tweak our rosters first, yeah?

What do you mean tweak our rosters? Like open up a new trading session? Or just pick up players off waivers?

Open up trading for a week, see where he goes.

Or just general roster tweaking. For instance I ended the summer thinking my starting 5 was going to be TP/Cook/Chandler/Diaw/Brook Lopez

Now it would be: TP/Chandler/Casspi/Bargs/Lopez.  With Mo Will, Diaw, Cook and Fernadez making up the bench. Remind me again how we missed the playoffs?

I think you'd struggle to make the playoffs again. You'd have some serious trouble defensively.

Aside from Bargs, who is an excellent weakside defender, who on my team would you consider a sieve?

Bargs is not an excellent weakside defender.

Lopez is okay, but he's not a great interior defender, I think you'd struggled to defend the paint with your big rotation. Meanwhile your perimeter defenders are solid, but not spectacular. I think that'd hold your team back.

Add to that Tony Parker is your best player (that's not a good thing with his struggles this year) He and Mo Williams duplicate themselves. If you give both the minutes they deserve you end up with an extremely small backcourt that'd hurt you on the defensive end and the boards.

I think your team would be a middle of the pack team and miss the playoffs by a few games. You could sneak into the eighth spot depending on the conference. This is just looking at your roster though, I don't remember how it compares.

I think we make the mistake in this blog often of how if a team doesn't have championship defense, then they are not playoff worthy. Teams that can run others out of the gym make the playoffs all the time. And while my team is not the 2005 SPurs defensively, no one on it is a sieve and they can outscore just about anyone.

[Fafnir]

they can outscore just about anyone.

I don't think that's true either though. Your best two offensive perimeter players can't be on the floor at the same time, and one is hurt a lot.

[Evantime34]

it would be interesting to see what a vote would look like now...i think the Mavs make it out of the first round this time.

I am interested in a revote.

As long as we can tweak our rosters first, yeah?

What do you mean tweak our rosters? Like open up a new trading session? Or just pick up players off waivers?

Open up trading for a week, see where he goes.

Or just general roster tweaking. For instance I ended the summer thinking my starting 5 was going to be TP/Cook/Chandler/Diaw/Brook Lopez

Now it would be: TP/Chandler/Casspi/Bargs/Lopez.  With Mo Will, Diaw, Cook and Fernadez making up the bench. Remind me again how we missed the playoffs?

I think you'd struggle to make the playoffs again. You'd have some serious trouble defensively.

Aside from Bargs, who is an excellent weakside defender, who on my team would you consider a sieve?

Bargs is not an excellent weakside defender.

Lopez is okay, but he's not a great interior defender, I think you'd struggled to defend the paint with your big rotation. Meanwhile your perimeter defenders are solid, but not spectacular. I think that'd hold your team back.

Add to that Tony Parker is your best player (that's not a good thing with his struggles this year) He and Mo Williams duplicate themselves. If you give both the minutes they deserve you end up with an extremely small backcourt that'd hurt you on the defensive end and the boards.

I think your team would be a middle of the pack team and miss the playoffs by a few games. You could sneak into the eighth spot depending on the conference. This is just looking at your roster though, I don't remember how it compares.

I think we make the mistake in this blog often of how if a team doesn't have championship defense, then they are not playoff worthy. Teams that can run others out of the gym make the playoffs all the time. And while my team is not the 2005 SPurs defensively, no one on it is a sieve and they can outscore just about anyone.

I agree with your thought, especially because my team is said to be defensively limited (although I believe Deng and Okur are very good defenders with Evans having the ability to be there someday).

I think a championship can be won with a team that is offensively geared. I never was that impressed with the defense the Lakers played last year but they won a championship. And my team can score on everyone no exceptions.

[indeedproceed]

it would be interesting to see what a vote would look like now...i think the Mavs make it out of the first round this time.

I am interested in a revote.

As long as we can tweak our rosters first, yeah?

What do you mean tweak our rosters? Like open up a new trading session? Or just pick up players off waivers?

Open up trading for a week, see where he goes.

Or just general roster tweaking. For instance I ended the summer thinking my starting 5 was going to be TP/Cook/Chandler/Diaw/Brook Lopez

Now it would be: TP/Chandler/Casspi/Bargs/Lopez.  With Mo Will, Diaw, Cook and Fernadez making up the bench. Remind me again how we missed the playoffs?

I think you'd struggle to make the playoffs again. You'd have some serious trouble defensively.

Aside from Bargs, who is an excellent weakside defender, who on my team would you consider a sieve?

Bargs is not an excellent weakside defender.

Lopez is okay, but he's not a great interior defender, I think you'd struggled to defend the paint with your big rotation. Meanwhile your perimeter defenders are solid, but not spectacular. I think that'd hold your team back.

Add to that Tony Parker is your best player (that's not a good thing with his struggles this year) He and Mo Williams duplicate themselves. If you give both the minutes they deserve you end up with an extremely small backcourt that'd hurt you on the defensive end and the boards.

I think your team would be a middle of the pack team and miss the playoffs by a few games. You could sneak into the eighth spot depending on the conference. This is just looking at your roster though, I don't remember how it compares.

I think we make the mistake in this blog often of how if a team doesn't have championship defense, then they are not playoff worthy. Teams that can run others out of the gym make the playoffs all the time. And while my team is not the 2005 SPurs defensively, no one on it is a sieve and they can outscore just about anyone.

I agree with your thought, especially because my team is said to be defensively limited (although I believe Deng and Okur are very good defenders with Evans having the ability to be there someday).

I think a championship can be won with a team that is offensively geared. I never was that impressed with the defense the Lakers played last year but they won a championship. And my team can score on everyone no exceptions.

Every team can score on everyone. Nobody gets beat something to nil.

The question is can a team slow you down more than you can slow them down?

[Evantime34]

it would be interesting to see what a vote would look like now...i think the Mavs make it out of the first round this time.

I am interested in a revote.

As long as we can tweak our rosters first, yeah?

What do you mean tweak our rosters? Like open up a new trading session? Or just pick up players off waivers?

Open up trading for a week, see where he goes.

Or just general roster tweaking. For instance I ended the summer thinking my starting 5 was going to be TP/Cook/Chandler/Diaw/Brook Lopez

Now it would be: TP/Chandler/Casspi/Bargs/Lopez.  With Mo Will, Diaw, Cook and Fernadez making up the bench. Remind me again how we missed the playoffs?

I think you'd struggle to make the playoffs again. You'd have some serious trouble defensively.

Aside from Bargs, who is an excellent weakside defender, who on my team would you consider a sieve?

Bargs is not an excellent weakside defender.

Lopez is okay, but he's not a great interior defender, I think you'd struggled to defend the paint with your big rotation. Meanwhile your perimeter defenders are solid, but not spectacular. I think that'd hold your team back.

Add to that Tony Parker is your best player (that's not a good thing with his struggles this year) He and Mo Williams duplicate themselves. If you give both the minutes they deserve you end up with an extremely small backcourt that'd hurt you on the defensive end and the boards.

I think your team would be a middle of the pack team and miss the playoffs by a few games. You could sneak into the eighth spot depending on the conference. This is just looking at your roster though, I don't remember how it compares.

I think we make the mistake in this blog often of how if a team doesn't have championship defense, then they are not playoff worthy. Teams that can run others out of the gym make the playoffs all the time. And while my team is not the 2005 SPurs defensively, no one on it is a sieve and they can outscore just about anyone.

I agree with your thought, especially because my team is said to be defensively limited (although I believe Deng and Okur are very good defenders with Evans having the ability to be there someday).

I think a championship can be won with a team that is offensively geared. I never was that impressed with the defense the Lakers played last year but they won a championship. And my team can score on everyone no exceptions.

Every team can score on everyone. Nobody gets beat something to nil.

The question is can a team slow you down more than you can slow them down?

No they can not.

[Fafnir]

I never was that impressed with the defense the Lakers played last year but they won a championship.

The were a top 10 NBA defense.

Its very hard to make the playoffs as a below average defensive teams.

[Evantime34]

I never was that impressed with the defense the Lakers played last year but they won a championship.

The were a top 10 NBA defense.

Its very hard to make the playoffs as a below average defensive teams.

Do you think my team is below average defensively? :-( Please be gentle I don't take criticism well.

I think my team can be a top 15 defense percentage wise but for points per game there is no way.

[Fafnir]

I never was that impressed with the defense the Lakers played last year but they won a championship.

The were a top 10 NBA defense.

Its very hard to make the playoffs as a below average defensive teams.

Do you think my team is below average defensively? :-( Please be gentle I don't take criticism well.

I think my team can be a top 15 defense percentage wise but for points per game there is no way.

I'd have to look at your roster, give me a minute.

I was just commenting on KC's team of Parker/Chandler/Casspi/Bargs/Lopez

[KCattheStripe]

they can outscore just about anyone.

I don't think that's true either though. Your best two offensive perimeter players can't be on the floor at the same time, and one is hurt a lot.

I think you underestimate how playing with a low post player instead of a face up four in Bosh would help Bargs' game. Also Casspi and Chandler's length makes even more versatile and creates matchup problems.

[Fafnir]

they can outscore just about anyone.

I don't think that's true either though. Your best two offensive perimeter players can't be on the floor at the same time, and one is hurt a lot.

I think you underestimate how playing with a low post player instead of a face up four in Bosh would help Bargs' game. Also Casspi and Chandler's length makes even more versatile and creates matchup problems.

The difference between where Lopez plays and Bosh wouldn't do all that much for Bargs. Defensively it'd help kinda. Bargs isn't quick enough to guard 4s. But he can't rebound against 5s or post defend all that well.

He's a tough guy to fit a team around.

[KCattheStripe]

they can outscore just about anyone.

I don't think that's true either though. Your best two offensive perimeter players can't be on the floor at the same time, and one is hurt a lot.

I think you underestimate how playing with a low post player instead of a face up four in Bosh would help Bargs' game. Also Casspi and Chandler's length makes even more versatile and creates matchup problems.

The difference between where Lopez plays and Bosh wouldn't do all that much for Bargs. Defensively it'd help kinda. Bargs isn't quick enough to guard 4s. But he can't rebound against 5s or post defend all that well.

He's a tough guy to fit a team around.

Disagree completely, but that being said he has already been on a playoff team and his team is the 5th seed and only 4.5 behind us for the Atlantic lead. We'll just have to agree to disagree.