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Ron Artest to Boston?
« on: June 30, 2009, 03:50:17 PM »

Offline johnnyrondo

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Idea from left field. Ron Artest as our 6th man backing up Ray and Pierce. Doc could also go small for short stretches/matchups and play the three together. Artest would get 30 mpg as the 6th man going for a ring and he'd most likely behave with such a veteran team (He causes problems more when he's "the man").  Ford was asked in his chat today about Artest and said he doesn't see that many suitors.

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Artest isn't the ideal Celtic, but neither was Marbury. Thoughts?

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« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2009, 03:50:52 PM »

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seems the cavs are in on everyone...artest....charlie V....

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« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2009, 03:54:54 PM »

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THat's why I hope Cleveland has to give their MLE for Charlie V. Further reduces the competition for the full-MLE guys. That's where Joe Dumars could help us out - make an offer to Villanueva so Cleveland has to go to full MLE.
Go Celtics.

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« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2009, 03:55:24 PM »

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seems the cavs are in on everyone...artest....charlie V....

but they can't sign anybody for more than one season. not sure how they manage to do that.

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« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2009, 03:56:21 PM »

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He'd be a sensational backup for Ray and Paul, and could probably slide to play some 4 like Posey did.  The only problem, of course, is that if we spend the whole MLE on him, how do we address our gaping hole in the middle behind Perk?  Maybe if we can get Oberto at the LLE or minimum, or someone like Joe Smith or Drew Gooden, but I worry if we spend the MLE on a 2/3 guy, rather than a 4/5 guy, we're going to have a lot of trouble addressing a backup for Perk.  

Now granted you could say the same thing about the 2/3 spot; however, at least we have guys like Bill Walker who could conceivably be a decent backup.  There's absolutely no one behind Perk.  

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« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2009, 03:58:49 PM »

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If the team could sign Artest, Baby, Marbury and Oberto, I would be thrilled.

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« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2009, 04:00:21 PM »

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He'd be a sensational backup for Ray and Paul, and could probably slide to play some 4 like Posey did.  The only problem, of course, is that if we spend the whole MLE on him, how do we address our gaping hole in the middle behind Perk?  Maybe if we can get Oberto at the LLE or minimum, or someone like Joe Smith or Drew Gooden, but I worry if we spend the MLE on a 2/3 guy, rather than a 4/5 guy, we're going to have a lot of trouble addressing a backup for Perk.  

Now granted you could say the same thing about the 2/3 spot; however, at least we have guys like Bill Walker who could conceivably be a decent backup.  There's absolutely no one behind Perk.  

Your points are all valid, but I think what we were missing the most this past playoffs was a true 6th man. Scal was our 6th man.  I think Artest could play the 4 for stretches, especially versus players like Lewis. Also, it would be nice for other teams to have to adjust to us too.

I'd be fine with BBD and Oberto (or a similar cheap FA) backing up Perk, IF we brought in a player of Artest's caliber.

Basically we'd have last yr's playoff team, which almost beat the Magic, plus KG, Artest, Oberto, and Powe.

2 years full MLE would you do it celticsbloggers?
3 years full MLE???

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« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2009, 04:05:01 PM »

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I'd give him the MLE over 5 years and a player opt out after 3. He'd be sick to have banging at the 2, 3, 4 off the bench. Heck he's good enough to possibly push Ray to the bench, sliding Pierce to the 2.

Artest is a head case, but in a good competative way. He's a guy you want to battle alongside, not against.

From there I would take a scrub to play the backup 5. Artest is that good.

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« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2009, 04:07:30 PM »

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29 year old artest? 5 years full MLE well worth it.

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« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2009, 04:09:47 PM »

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He'd be a sensational backup for Ray and Paul, and could probably slide to play some 4 like Posey did.  The only problem, of course, is that if we spend the whole MLE on him, how do we address our gaping hole in the middle behind Perk?  Maybe if we can get Oberto at the LLE or minimum, or someone like Joe Smith or Drew Gooden, but I worry if we spend the MLE on a 2/3 guy, rather than a 4/5 guy, we're going to have a lot of trouble addressing a backup for Perk.  

Now granted you could say the same thing about the 2/3 spot; however, at least we have guys like Bill Walker who could conceivably be a decent backup.  There's absolutely no one behind Perk.  

Your points are all valid, but I think what we were missing the most this past playoffs was a true 6th man. Scal was our 6th man.  I think Artest could play the 4 for stretches, especially versus players like Lewis. Also, it would be nice for other teams to have to adjust to us too.

I'd be fine with BBD and Oberto (or a similar cheap FA) backing up Perk, IF we brought in a player of Artest's caliber.

Basically we'd have last yr's playoff team, which almost beat the Magic, plus KG, Artest, Oberto, and Powe.

2 years full MLE would you do it celticsbloggers?
3 years full MLE???

Your points are all valid, but I think what we were missing the most this past playoffs was a true 6th man. Scal was our 6th man.  I think Artest could play the 4 for stretches, especially versus players like Lewis. Also, it would be nice for other teams to have to adjust to us too.

I'd be fine with BBD and Oberto (or a similar cheap FA) backing up Perk, IF we brought in a player of Artest's caliber.

2 years full MLE would you do it celticsbloggers?
3 years full MLE???
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I'd be OK with BBD, Oberto, KG, and Perk in a rotation.  Heck, I'd probably be OK with Powe, Oberto, KG, and Perk in a 4/5 rotation.  Artest and Scal could handle backing up KG until Powe got back. 

My only question with these Artest and Marion proposals is about value.  Assuming we spend the MLE and LLE, what's a better value, Artest at the MLE and Oberto at the LLE, or Wallace at the MLE and a guy like Grant Hill or Matt Barnes at the LLE?  Remember, Hill only made a little less than two million dollars last year.  I agree that Artest and Marion are probably better than Sheed, we may be able to get more out of the MLE and LLE getting him instead. 

Still, I'd be very happy with Artest.  He's an incredible defender and would give us an even better version of James Posey.  I'd be willing to go three years, since I don't see the rebuilding process starting here until at least KG's contract expires. 

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« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2009, 04:09:59 PM »

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The OP's idea is a great one. I'd give him a TP if I could  :P

Roster 2009/2010 NBA Champions:

PG: Rondo, Marbury
SG: Ray, (Artest), House
SF: Pierce, Artest, Walker
PF: KG, Powe, Scal, (BBD), (Artest)
C: Perk, BBD, Oberto

Tony Allen and Pruitt gone. Two of Hudson, Lofton, and Giddens as the 14th and 15th men.

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« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2009, 04:11:38 PM »

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PG: Rondo, Marbury
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SF: Pierce, Parker
PF: KG, ShPeed
C: Perk, Oberto

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« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2009, 04:13:22 PM »

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The OP's idea is a great one. I'd give him a TP if I could  :P

Roster 2009/2010 NBA Champions:

PG: Rondo, Marbury
SG: Ray, (Artest), House
SF: Pierce, Artest, Walker
PF: KG, Powe, Scal, (BBD), (Artest)
C: Perk, BBD, Oberto

Tony Allen and Pruitt gone. Two of Hudson, Lofton, and Giddens as the 14th and 15th men.

No, no... Tony Allen gone? He can be traded. Nevermind wasting $2.5 (or 5 when including LT) million

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« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2009, 04:13:53 PM »

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I'd give him the MLE over 5 years and a player opt out after 3. He'd be sick to have banging at the 2, 3, 4 off the bench. Heck he's good enough to possibly push Ray to the bench, sliding Pierce to the 2.

Artest is a head case, but in a good competative way. He's a guy you want to battle alongside, not against.

From there I would take a scrub to play the backup 5. Artest is that good.

I totally agree Mr. October! Artest is that good & I would start him just to keep him happy & bring the sharpshooting Ray off the bench in a Ben Gordon type role where he is the #1 option & could gun.

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« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2009, 04:17:36 PM »

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I like it, but I'm not sure Paul Pierce would. Those two used to go at it when Artest was in Indiana. You may recall Artest deliberately yanking Paul's shorts down when the refs weren't looking.