SF's that the Celtics can acquire via trade

[JSD]

The consensus amongst CBer's seems to highlight the importance of a SF that can off the bench, lessen the minutes of Pierce and R.Allen and contribute on both ends of the floor. I compiled a list of Small forwards that the Celtics could obtain with any/all combination of Scal+House+T.Allen+Giddens+Walker+ future 1st round pick:

Gerald Wallace - With the Bobcats up for sale and annual loss the team is looking to cut payroll.

Tayshaun Prince - Like every NBA team the Pistons rely on the area business for revenue and support. With the Auto industry hurting and affecting the entire community, the Pistons might be looking to slash payroll even further.

James Posey -  The Hornets have not been shy about their financial woes, Posey Another player that will be available because of the tough economic times.

Matt Harpring - The Jazz might be willing to part with Harpring if the right deal came along.

Mike Miller - Another player that might require a little extra but is a Celtic possibility with the right offer.

Mike Dunleavy - With Granger taking over the role as the main man in Indiana he becomes another possibility as teams across the league look to shed payroll.

[winsomme]

The consensus amongst CBer's seems to highlight the importance of a SF that can off the bench, lessen the minutes of Pierce and R.Allen and contribute on both ends of the floor. I compiled a list of Small forwards that the Celtics could obtain with any/all combination of Scal+House+T.Allen+Giddens+Walker+ future 1st round pick:

Gerald Wallace - With the Bobcats up for sale and annual loss the team is looking to cut payroll.

Tayshaun Prince - Like every NBA team the Pistons rely on the area business for revenue and support. With the Auto industry hurting and affecting the entire community, the Pistons might be looking to slash payroll even further.

James Posey -  The Hornets have not been shy about their financial woes, Posey Another player that will be available because of the tough economic times.

Matt Harpring - The Jazz might be willing to part with Harpring if the right deal came along.

Mike Miller - Another player that might require a little extra but is a Celtic possibility with the right offer.

Mike Dunleavy - With Granger taking over the role as the main man in Indiana he becomes another possibility as teams across the league look to shed payroll.

I'd be interested in Mike Miller. but he is an expiring contract, so I'm not sure how much incentive MINN would have to unload him at this point.

plus, after sending KG our way, I'm not sure they want to be sending us any more Title pieces.

I guess we could attach a first round pick (not sure about the rule that prevents you from trading your 1st round pick two years in a row), but our best asset right now looks to be Walker and MINN (with Brewer and Carney) probably aren't looking for another SG.

I don't know. not sure how to put together an attractive package for him.

[StartOrien]

A low money guy we could take a look at is Renaldo Balkman.

[thebirdman]

A low money guy we could take a look at is Renaldo Balkman.

Agreed. But I doubt DEN is interested in trading him. He isn`t making much and he has been pretty decent for them this season...

[Chris]

I think the Nocioni trade that was discussed at the deadline will be revisited in the offseason.  I am not sure if there is a match there or not, but I fully expect it to at least be discussed.  The real question will be whether Big Baby will be a part of it.  He supposedly was part of the rumored trade in February, and if the Kings really like him, he could be part as a sign and trade, making it even easier to match salaries.

[winsomme]

I think the Nocioni trade that was discussed at the deadline will be revisited in the offseason.  I am not sure if there is a match there or not, but I fully expect it to at least be discussed.  The real question will be whether Big Baby will be a part of it.  He supposedly was part of the rumored trade in February, and if the Kings really like him, he could be part as a sign and trade, making it even easier to match salaries.

if that did go down then we would be have a Big Baby-sized hole in the front court. Yikes!

Sheed and Nocioni would probably be able to hold the fort down until Leon came back...hmm, interesting.

[Brendan]

I think its more realistic to acquire the backup wing via FA. Guys like Grant Hill, and even Posey his year with us take discounts for the right situation.

Of the guys on that list I like Tayshaun the best, but I wonder if the C's would pay 21 million over two years to a backup wing. Even if they are dumping ~8 million in useless salaries for this year, it's still an incremental cost of 13 million. Unless they plan to play Ray Allen at PG or one of PP or Tayshaun at PF, it will be hard to get him starter minutes.

[Chris]

I think the Nocioni trade that was discussed at the deadline will be revisited in the offseason.  I am not sure if there is a match there or not, but I fully expect it to at least be discussed.  The real question will be whether Big Baby will be a part of it.  He supposedly was part of the rumored trade in February, and if the Kings really like him, he could be part as a sign and trade, making it even easier to match salaries.

if that did go down then we would be have a Big Baby-sized hole in the front court. Yikes!

Sheed and Nocioni would probably be able to hold the fort down until Leon came back...hmm, interesting.

Yeah, it would have to be in conjunction with the signing of another big man.

The other thing is that if they sign and trade Davis, with say, Tony Allen, then they would still have Scal as depth up front.  If you had a big man rotation of KG, Perk, Sheed or McDyess, Nocioni, and Scal, with Powe coming back the last couple months of the season, it wouldn't be bad.  They could also sign a vet minimum big guy as insurance.

[winsomme]

I think the Nocioni trade that was discussed at the deadline will be revisited in the offseason.  I am not sure if there is a match there or not, but I fully expect it to at least be discussed.  The real question will be whether Big Baby will be a part of it.  He supposedly was part of the rumored trade in February, and if the Kings really like him, he could be part as a sign and trade, making it even easier to match salaries.

if that did go down then we would be have a Big Baby-sized hole in the front court. Yikes!

Sheed and Nocioni would probably be able to hold the fort down until Leon came back...hmm, interesting.

Yeah, it would have to be in conjunction with the signing of another big man.

The other thing is that if they sign and trade Davis, with say, Tony Allen, then they would still have Scal as depth up front.  If you had a big man rotation of KG, Perk, Sheed or McDyess, Nocioni, and Scal, with Powe coming back the last couple months of the season, it wouldn't be bad.  They could also sign a vet minimum big guy as insurance.

I think i would be down with that. contingent on the big being a legit player and not a project like a Swift, etc...

how would that work out for us salary-wise? Would be be back in the 80 mil zone?

[nickagneta]

I think a backup SF is very necessary but I think the money that needs to be spent this off season needs to be spent to upgrade the frontcourt. I also think we aren't getting any of the decent SFs available in trade by offering some combination of or scrub expirings.

Big Baby, in a sign and trade, will need to go to get a good SF and then we will have to fill 2-3 positions up front with just the MLE and the LLE. If Sheed signs anywhere t's at the MLE or above so if he is what everyone here wants he is going to cost big. That would mean getting another big with vet mins or the LLE.

I'd explore the Nocioni trade with Baby included and throw in Tony Allen. Keep Scal in any trade where Baby would go out to the Kings.

[WedmanIsMyHero]

With all due respect, all of those names seem inadequate.  The Celtics need *athletic* players.  Players like Mikael Pietrus, who they didn't want last year (http://celticshub.com/2009/05/21/memory-lane/).  Players like Trevor Ariza.  Players like Courtney Lee.  Players like JR Smith.

The Celtics need *someone* on the bench who, if they are playing well, can use their athleticism to make a big contribution.  They have no players like that right now. . . .unless you think Walker is the answer -- now I think he actually has lots of potential, but Doc does not seem like a big fan.

[Who]

If Glen Davis leaves, I think the biggest priority should be a big man. No Glen Davis, and you can't depend on Powe due to his injury, that leaves a massive hole up front. It's just Scal by his lonesome.

Secondly, the cheapest talent in the entire NBA is found on the wings, backup wings The Celtics can find good value players there for low prices, either at the minimum or the LLE.

[crownsy]

With all due respect, all of those names seem inadequate.  The Celtics need *athletic* players.  Players like Mikael Pietrus, who they didn't want last year (http://celticshub.com/2009/05/21/memory-lane/).  Players like Trevor Ariza.  Players like Courtney Lee.  Players like JR Smith.

The Celtics need *someone* on the bench who, if they are playing well, can use their athleticism to make a big contribution.  They have no players like that right now. . . .unless you think Walker is the answer -- now I think he actually has lots of potential, but Doc does not seem like a big fan.

in what world is wallace not athletic? it's one of his only redeeming qualities...

I also expect billy to get more minutes next year, Doc takes his sweet time with rookies, and he was getting a bit of playing time before the playoffs.

[Jeff]

I'm sure this is the one billionth time this has been brought up, but wouldn't Ryan Gomes have been wonderful on this team?  ugh, I miss that guy

[WedmanIsMyHero]

With all due respect, all of those names seem inadequate.  The Celtics need *athletic* players.  Players like Mikael Pietrus, who they didn't want last year (http://celticshub.com/2009/05/21/memory-lane/).  Players like Trevor Ariza.  Players like Courtney Lee.  Players like JR Smith.

The Celtics need *someone* on the bench who, if they are playing well, can use their athleticism to make a big contribution.  They have no players like that right now. . . .unless you think Walker is the answer -- now I think he actually has lots of potential, but Doc does not seem like a big fan.

in what world is wallace not athletic? it's one of his only redeeming qualities...

I also expect billy to get more minutes next year, Doc takes his sweet time with rookies, and he was getting a bit of playing time before the playoffs.

Fair point about Wallace.  I guess I just discounted him a bit since he is so injury-prone, but he is athletic.  I hope you are right re: Walker.  I like him a lot.