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Re: SF the Celtics can aquire via trade
« Reply #30 on: May 28, 2009, 09:10:19 AM »

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West is a useful role player. It would have been nice to palm Tony Allen off on Seattle in that deal.

But the affection for Gomes - and to some extent, the affection for the group that lost 58 games - escapes me. I just don't see Gomes as a useful contributor on a team making a title run. He's the Gabe Pruitt of the 3s - not really good at anything. I like his basketball intelligence - if Tony Allen could think the game like Ryan Gomes, he'd be an All-Star. But physically, Ryan's challenged.
Not sure if I'd compare him to Pruitt, since Gabe is still a work in progress who makes frequent mistakes.  But I definitely agree that Gomes is a great guy who plays the right way, but he's just not very good.  He tries but he can't guard anyone.  He's about as good as Scal- better on offense, worse on defense.

Re: SF the Celtics can aquire via trade
« Reply #31 on: May 28, 2009, 09:22:13 AM »

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A low money guy we could take a look at is Renaldo Balkman.

Agreed. But I doubt DEN is interested in trading him. He isn`t making much and he has been pretty decent for them this season...

Ya, but he can't be all that valuable to them if he's literally getting no burn for them in the playoffs.

Re: SF the Celtics can aquire via trade
« Reply #32 on: May 28, 2009, 09:26:10 AM »

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I think a backup SF is very necessary but I think the money that needs to be spent this off season needs to be spent to upgrade the frontcourt. I also think we aren't getting any of the decent SFs available in trade by offering some combination of or scrub expirings.

Big Baby, in a sign and trade, will need to go to get a good SF and then we will have to fill 2-3 positions up front with just the MLE and the LLE. If Sheed signs anywhere t's at the MLE or above so if he is what everyone here wants he is going to cost big. That would mean getting another big with vet mins or the LLE.

I'd explore the Nocioni trade with Baby included and throw in Tony Allen. Keep Scal in any trade where Baby would go out to the Kings.

I'm not expert on these items, but I believe Big Baby can only be sign-and-traded by himself. We can take back multiple players, but we can't create a package on a sign-and-trade. In any case, a combo of TA, JR or Pruitt, and Scal should be enough to fetch Nocioni. Tony Allen has the potential to rebound into a good bench player with more minutes and less pressure. And they're desparate for PG help so Pruitt may interest them.
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Re: SF the Celtics can aquire via trade
« Reply #33 on: May 28, 2009, 09:57:24 AM »

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I would rather have BBD than Nocioni.

Re: SF the Celtics can aquire via trade
« Reply #34 on: May 28, 2009, 12:11:47 PM »

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I noticed in Chad Ford's Mock that he has Utah taking Tyler Hansboro.  If this is the case, what are the chances of trading for Kirilenko and what would we have to give up?  Looking at the $, I don't believe it could happen.
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Re: SF the Celtics can acquire via trade
« Reply #35 on: July 10, 2009, 01:07:19 PM »

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Ok, this thread might be relevant again...

Re: SF's that the Celtics can acquire via trade
« Reply #36 on: July 10, 2009, 01:08:06 PM »

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Re: SF the Celtics can aquire via trade
« Reply #37 on: July 10, 2009, 01:09:10 PM »

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I noticed in Chad Ford's Mock that he has Utah taking Tyler Hansboro.  If this is the case, what are the chances of trading for Kirilenko and what would we have to give up?  Looking at the $, I don't believe it could happen.

Kirilenko would be perfect, except he makes too much money.
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Re: SF's that the Celtics can acquire via trade
« Reply #38 on: July 10, 2009, 01:10:03 PM »

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The consensus amongst CBer's seems to highlight the importance of a SF that can off the bench, lessen the minutes of Pierce and R.Allen and contribute on both ends of the floor. I compiled a list of Small forwards that the Celtics could obtain with any/all combination of BBD+Scal+House+T.Allen+Giddens+Walker+ future 1st round pick:

Gerald Wallace - With the Bobcats up for sale and annual loss the team is looking to cut payroll.

Tayshaun Prince - Like every NBA team the Pistons rely on the area business for revenue and support. With the Auto industry hurting and affecting the entire community, the Pistons might be looking to slash payroll even further.

James Posey -  The Hornets have not been shy about their financial woes, Posey is another player that will be available because of the tough economic times.

Matt Harpring - The Jazz might be willing to part with Harpring if the right deal came along.

Mike Miller - Another player that might require a little extra but is a Celtic possibility with the right offer.


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Re: SF's that the Celtics can acquire via trade
« Reply #39 on: July 10, 2009, 01:16:43 PM »

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I think now that GH is gone, Danny will focus hard on making a trade for another good bench guy. Wyc seems to have the purse strings open as much as possible within the rules.  Seems like Ainge will get something good done. We don't need but one more good bench guy, preferably a 2/3.  It may mean giving up BBD on a sign and trade, but would be worth it if we can swing it for a legit guy (like Posey or Mike Miller).

Re: SF the Celtics can aquire via trade
« Reply #40 on: July 10, 2009, 01:16:57 PM »

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I noticed in Chad Ford's Mock that he has Utah taking Tyler Hansboro.  If this is the case, what are the chances of trading for Kirilenko and what would we have to give up?  Looking at the $, I don't believe it could happen.

Kirilenko would be perfect, except he makes too much money.


WAyyyyyy too much money. Although Ray Allen would bring him in.

Re: SF's that the Celtics can acquire via trade
« Reply #41 on: July 10, 2009, 01:25:00 PM »

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I think now that GH is gone, Danny will focus hard on making a trade for another good bench guy. Wyc seems to have the purse strings open as much as possible within the rules.  Seems like Ainge will get something good done. We don't need but one more good bench guy, preferably a 2/3.  It may mean giving up BBD on a sign and trade, but would be worth it if we can swing it for a legit guy (like Posey or Mike Miller).



BBD at $5mill + TA + Giddens = Tay Prince?

Re: SF's that the Celtics can acquire via trade
« Reply #42 on: July 10, 2009, 01:28:30 PM »

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I wish it would happen and hope I'm wrong, but I just don't see Ainge making a trade.

Re: SF's that the Celtics can acquire via trade
« Reply #43 on: July 10, 2009, 01:30:56 PM »

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I want Gerald Wallace, Tayshaun Prince, Andres Nocioni, in that order.

One thing I am sure is that Scal and TA aren't to happy with Grant Hill, his decision pretty much guarantees that they will be traded.

Re: SF's that the Celtics can acquire via trade
« Reply #44 on: July 10, 2009, 01:36:46 PM »

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Yeah, I'd love Tayshaun and Wallace too, but they don't seem like realistic trade options for our expiring junk.

For some reason, I think Nocioni would be doable from Sac's perspective.  I think he'd be a great fit here, in a Posey sort of way.