A Silver Lining

[scurvmeister]

I think this difficult stretch has accelerated Marbury's assimilation into the Celtic culture. He's been thrown into the fire emotionally with the team, and so far he's acted like a real Celtic.

Somehow, I doubt he's thinking selfish thoughts as he goes to war with the rest of the Celtics as they need (almost) every warm body to pull together unlikely wins and close losses. I also doubt he's thinking about himself while watching Pierce take over games and seeing how everyone trusts each other to do what they are supposed to do. I would argue that this is even more important than him getting his legs under him.

He's almost invisible now; the media has moved on. Now it's just hard work to get himself to where the Celtics need him to be. I mean, did you imagine the transition to be this smooth? The Marbury we knew would not cheer so hard for his teammates. He would not be so cordial and optimistic when we began losing. He would not pass so much, sometimes to a fault.

Whatever you think about him, it's hard to ignore that he's become a more mature team player than many ever expected him to be. He seems to be growing into his Celtic uniform nicely. And so despite all the injuries and losing streaks, this is a piece of good news.

[Brickowski]

Are you kidding?  He sucks.  He's even worse than I thought he would be.  That embarrassing blow-by last evening, when Derrick Rose beat him off the dribble without even having to cross over, was just the tip of a huge, useless iceberg. And he continues to throw up brick after brick.

The emperor ain't wearing any clothes, and if you want to pretend that he is, don't expect company from me.

[crownsy]

Are you kidding?  He sucks.  He's even worse than I thought he would be.  That embarrassing blow-by last evening, when Derrick Rose beat him off the dribble without even having to cross over, was just the tip of a huge, useless iceberg. And he continues to throw up brick after brick.

The emperor ain't wearing any clothes, and if you want to pretend that he is, don't expect company from me.

so his two good games before that don't count right?

I mean, he's a bench player. I'm not looking for him to be a world beater. If he's able to turn in more games like friday with 9 and 5 in 15 minutes, great. if not, were no worse off than before he got here and cassell wasen't playing.

 as for his shot, its pretty clear he just doesn't have the legs back. he front rims his first shot every time, then back rims the next. He doesn't have his legs or his timing.

He's kept his mouth shut so far and moved the ball well for the second unit, if not scored. he's better for our depth chart than an inactive cassell and o'blount.

I always thought those treating him like he was going to be manu or jason terry were off thier rocker, If he can get to the point where he can give us 15-20 a night and average 8-12 and 4-5 assists, he's a great pickup. If not and he keeps his mouth shut and plays team ball, he's no worse than sam "i can't even pass" cassell.

[scurvmeister]

Are you kidding?  He sucks.  He's even worse than I thought he would be.  That embarrassing blow-by last evening, when Derrick Rose beat him off the dribble without even having to cross over, was just the tip of a huge, useless iceberg. And he continues to throw up brick after brick.

but that was my point. I said that I thought the integration of Marbury as a team player is more important than his performance at this point. I wasn't arguing whether he sucks at the moment or not. I'm pointing out a positive in his attitude which will only become more valuable down the road.

[Brickowski]

He hasn't integrated as a team player, either. It's been nearly a month and he still doesn't know the offense.  For starters he never moves without the ball. He doesn't know how.

I suppose it's true that he hasn't raped anyone yet.

The silver lining this year will be Delonte West getting his shot at a ring.  God, I wish we still had him.

[scurvmeister]

He hasn't integrated as a team player, either. It's been nearly a month and he still doesn't know the offense.  For starters he never moves without the ball. He doesn't know how.

I suppose it's true that he hasn't raped anyone yet.

The silver lining this year will be Delonte West getting his shot at a ring.  God, I wish we still had him.

haha okay. But like Crownsy said, look at his good games. It's a little bit more difficult to judge the integration of his recent play with so many makeshift lineups. You think they run the same plays when there's 3 PGs on court?

His attitude as a bench player is playing out as everyone's best-case scenario. So, I think the hardest part is out of the way. It may be ugly for now, but the payoff potential is far greater in the end than if he came in with guns blazing and an inflated ego.

[Reggie's Ghost]

Are you kidding?  He sucks.  He's even worse than I thought he would be.  That embarrassing blow-by last evening, when Derrick Rose beat him off the dribble without even having to cross over, was just the tip of a huge, useless iceberg. And he continues to throw up brick after brick.

The emperor ain't wearing any clothes, and if you want to pretend that he is, don't expect company from me.

so his two good games before that don't count right?

I mean, he's a bench player. I'm not looking for him to be a world beater. If he's able to turn in more games like friday with 9 and 5 in 15 minutes, great. if not, were no worse off than before he got here and cassell wasen't playing.

 as for his shot, its pretty clear he just doesn't have the legs back. he front rims his first shot every time, then back rims the next. He doesn't have his legs or his timing.

He's kept his mouth shut so far and moved the ball well for the second unit, if not scored. he's better for our depth chart than an inactive cassell and o'blount.

I always thought those treating him like he was going to be manu or jason terry were off thier rocker, If he can get to the point where he can give us 15-20 a night and average 8-12 and 4-5 assists, he's a great pickup. If not and he keeps his mouth shut and plays team ball, he's no worse than sam "i can't even pass" cassell.

Crownsy, sure he showed a pulse in the Memphis game on Fri, but he was a dud in the Bucks game, and he was a huge dud last night. 

In my mind,  if your playing for your professional career every night, and you can't hit a shot or crate for others (because you haven't got your legs/acclimated to the new system, or because your an old, washed up bum), than at least get on the floor, step in front of folks and draw a charge, pressure the ball, make yourself useful!  Right now he bears an uncanny resemblance to his cousin on D.  I'm not seeing it, putting him and House in at the same time leaves no one to defend the 2, and I thought I spotted several instances during last nights game where he seemed to be jawing back at his teammates and Doc.

I don't get Marbury's role on this team at all, even with a full squad.

[Brickowski]

Actually there's another silver lining.  If the team makes an early exit from the playoffs we won't have to watch Marbury play any more.

[guava_wrench]

Are you kidding?  He sucks.  He's even worse than I thought he would be.  That embarrassing blow-by last evening, when Derrick Rose beat him off the dribble without even having to cross over, was just the tip of a huge, useless iceberg. And he continues to throw up brick after brick.

The emperor ain't wearing any clothes, and if you want to pretend that he is, don't expect company from me.

Bulls blew by everyone. Can't put it on the perimeter guys last night. How could they run their normal defense when Perk was the only guy who knew how to many the middle in our defense?

[Chris]

Actually there's another silver lining.  If the team makes an early exit from the playoffs we won't have to watch Marbury play any more.

We get it, you hate Marbury. 

[rondofan1255]

Another silver lining is we might see Giddens play more than 8 seconds tonight.

[Brickowski]

Actually there's another silver lining.  If the team makes an early exit from the playoffs we won't have to watch Marbury play any more.

We get it, you hate Marbury. 

Not Marbury, just his game.  D'Antoni knew exactly what he was doing when he installed Duhon as the starter in NY and sent Marbury packing.

[Chris]

Actually there's another silver lining.  If the team makes an early exit from the playoffs we won't have to watch Marbury play any more.

We get it, you hate Marbury. 

Not Marbury, just his game.  D'Antoni knew exactly what he was doing when he installed Duhon as the starter in NY and sent Marbury packing.

I think his game his EXACTLY what this team needs...he just needs to continue working himself back into game shape, and gaining confidence. 

While I would never want him as a starting PG, coming off the bench with a full roster, he brings the scoring and playmaking ability that they sorely lacked.  He is able to breakdown defenses, and create open shots for both himself and others.  That is something they did not have on the bench before. 

If he can play like he did on Friday, and did a bit on Sunday (although not quite as well), then he will make this team MUCH better in the playoffs.

[Brickowski]

He's had two games where he was almost as good as Pruitt.  The rest of the time Marbury has looked worse than a D-leaguer.

He's rusty, all right-- rusted all the way through.  Stick a fork in him.  He's done, and so are the Celtics if they keep playing him.

[PierceMVP08]

Actually there's another silver lining.  If the team makes an early exit from the playoffs we won't have to watch Marbury play any more.

We get it, you hate Marbury. 

Not Marbury, just his game.  D'Antoni knew exactly what he was doing when he installed Duhon as the starter in NY and sent Marbury packing.

I don't care how much you hate marbury or his game, if you are hoping the celts make an early exit because you don't want to watch him, then you're not a real fan anyways and shouldn't be watching.  At least Delonte will get a shot at a ring this year?  The signing of Marbury doesn't mean the celts won't win anymore.  If you have such little faith in the team, get off these boards and don't even call yourself a fan.