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Re: Doc is not a good coach - Period
« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2009, 11:36:07 PM »

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If i blame anyone is Paul Pierce (fav 5). His go to moves got exposed even the Fakers know about it. Everytime he spins there was a guy going 4 the steal. PP had 5TO mostly at the end of the game.

Re: Doc is not a good coach - Period
« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2009, 11:38:11 PM »

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Pierce hits a shot the C's win their 13th straight.

Doc sucks enough to win a lot of games and a championship.

Lighten up.

I agree, and like I've said old news Doc is a bad x's and o's coach, but the NBA is and always will be a players league, outside Popovich and Sloan.    
Give me some evidence Doc is a bad Xs and Os coach. His substitution decisions are another story, but don't confuse the two.


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Re: Doc is not a good coach - Period
« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2009, 11:39:06 PM »

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If i blame anyone is Paul Pierce (fav 5). His go to moves got exposed even the Fakers know about it. Everytime he spins there was a guy going 4 the steal. PP had 5TO mostly at the end of the game.

TP I do agree Pierce not hitting his foul shots and the turnovers were the main reason we lost tonight above Doc and the refs.  However in his defense he was playing wicked D on Kobe and that was exerting a lot of his energy.  

Re: Doc is not a good coach - Period
« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2009, 11:39:20 PM »

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yes...

totally agree...

substitutions by doc are questionable...

Re: Doc is not a good coach - Period
« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2009, 11:41:45 PM »

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Due to circumstances, Powe and House weren't players you wanted down the stretch on the floor regardless of how good they were playing. During the course of the game, he gave House and Powe plenty of playing time... it wasn't like he was oblivious to what they were doing, they simply didn't fit with the lineup we needed on the floor down the stretch. It's not hard to understand.

You bring in House, and sit who? Rondo? I think we'd get full court pressed to death, and they're quite a good team at that. I doubt we would've handled it properly. Davis was in there simply to spread the floor to let Pierce do his thing... we just didn't have any other options... he was chosen by default. So the other option is sit down Perk and bring in Powe, don't know if that's wise with the type of length the Lakers have.

Anyways, I wouldn't have minded seeing Powe in there, but there was NOTHING wrong with the reasoning and the decision employed by Doc in this regard.

Re: Doc is not a good coach - Period
« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2009, 11:42:48 PM »

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Pierce hits a shot the C's win their 13th straight.

Doc sucks enough to win a lot of games and a championship.

Lighten up.

Pierce hits his free throws we win the game.

Re: Doc is not a good coach - Period
« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2009, 11:43:38 PM »

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Pierce hits a shot the C's win their 13th straight.

Doc sucks enough to win a lot of games and a championship.

Lighten up.

I agree, and like I've said old news Doc is a bad x's and o's coach, but the NBA is and always will be a players league, outside Popovich and Sloan.    
Give me some evidence Doc is a bad Xs and Os coach. His substitution decisions are another story, but don't confuse the two.

I know the difference between substitutions and drawing up plays.  First off, in the end of regulation, why have Pierce go 1v1 on Kobe? How bout a screen from BBD or Perk to get some room for him to get a shot off? Instead he gets it poked away from Kobe.  The 2nd one just in this game was the play call to get Davis a 15 foot shot on the elbow.  That takes a lot of balls to draw that up, and while he hit it, that's a dumb play call for a player that was 0-5 or 0-6 at the time.  I was only able to catch the final 2 minutes of regulation and OT, but I bet there was more this game.  Like I said this is old news on Doc though, he's a great communicator and motivator, but not a good game coach. Once again though, old news, I'm done talking about Doc.  

Re: Doc is not a good coach - Period
« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2009, 11:44:25 PM »

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well he did make some mistakes tonight...

and it's not the first time...

what about going with the hot hand...

that's the oldest rule in coaching...

he had 2 hot hands...

and took them out...

i don't care about matchups and philosophy...

you always go with the hot hand...


every coach knows that...
Yes, you want to go with the hot hand. But tell me, who would you have had House guarding if you put him in the game? Honestly, tell me. If you wanted him in the game so bad, who do you think he should have been guarding?


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« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2009, 11:44:35 PM »

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why not...

what happened to the infamous small ball...

he only did it at the end with time running out on an out bounds play...

Re: Doc is not a good coach - Period
« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2009, 11:45:31 PM »

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If i blame anyone is Paul Pierce (fav 5). His go to moves got exposed even the Fakers know about it. Everytime he spins there was a guy going 4 the steal. PP had 5TO mostly at the end of the game.

TP I do agree Pierce not hitting his foul shots and the turnovers were the main reason we lost tonight above Doc and the refs.  However in his defense he was playing wicked D on Kobe and that was exerting a lot of his energy.  
What do you guys think about how teams are guarding PP? Did he lose a step or Has he been exposed? It seems that teams know his tendencies from his shot selection and his go move (spin baby spin).

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« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2009, 11:45:59 PM »

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why not...

what happened to the infamous small ball...

he only did it at the end with time running out on an out bounds play...

Small ball lineup isn't that good without KG.

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« Reply #26 on: February 05, 2009, 11:46:14 PM »

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had big baby made that final shot, doc would have been declared a genius. it's tough to lose to the lakers (and have our streak broken by them twice) but i'd rather lose now than in the playoffs (finals). we still have half of the season ahead and anything is possible. what this game showed is our obvious need for another big and maybe another scorer. that said, everything's not lost guys...go celtics! the quest for banner #18 is alive and well.

Re: Doc is not a good coach - Period
« Reply #27 on: February 05, 2009, 11:46:47 PM »

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If i blame anyone is Paul Pierce (fav 5). His go to moves got exposed even the Fakers know about it. Everytime he spins there was a guy going 4 the steal. PP had 5TO mostly at the end of the game.

TP I do agree Pierce not hitting his foul shots and the turnovers were the main reason we lost tonight above Doc and the refs.  However in his defense he was playing wicked D on Kobe and that was exerting a lot of his energy.  
What do you guys think about how teams are guarding PP? Did he lose a step or Has he been exposed? It seems that teams know his tendencies from his shot selection and his go move (spin baby spin).

He was tired from playing absurdly good defense on Kobe all game.

Re: Doc is not a good coach - Period
« Reply #28 on: February 05, 2009, 11:48:09 PM »

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It's all about the spacing - if Powe, Perkins or Rondo were able to hit jumpers consistently, things could be different.... we really struggle in this kind of situations, Doc simply doesn't have enough quality on the bench to make up for the flaws of the starters.

I predicted during the Summer that Doc would be the one blamed by the lack of options and diversity relatively to last season and it's happening every time we lose.

Re: Doc is not a good coach - Period
« Reply #29 on: February 05, 2009, 11:48:26 PM »

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I'm not ready to malign Doc after this loss. Yes it hurt but he's still the same Doc who drew up that great play on Tuesday. I question his decisions sometimes but in the playoffs when it counted the team came through. That's all I care about.
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