Gabe Pruitt

[moiso]

Actually posters overrate over-the-hill veterans as much as they do young players.

What the player did two years ago doesn't matter.  He could have been an all-star or in the D league. It's what the player is capable of doing now.

true.

[crownsy]

Actually posters overrate over-the-hill veterans as much as they do young players.

What the player did two years ago doesn't matter.  He could have been an all-star or in the D league. It's what the player is capable of doing now.

true.

also true is that posters get hammered for not going with the herd as to over/under rating players.

I agree some people are off thier rockers with regards to players ceiling, but alot of posters also just aren't as negitive on players as some of the posters who through the "you overrate x" comment around on a regular basis.

[kenmaine]

Could not disagree with you more.

  Doesn't surprise me, but it's still true. If you like the sound of it more I could say "many people underrate our younger players" instead of "many people overrate other team's players" but the effect is the same.

If you read today's comments fromt he other side, there is a small yet vocal minority of mavs fans that thinks GG is an allstar the mavs are burying on the bench.

I'm with Bud, posters on every board overrate there own and others young players. The magic of potential.

Well not me!
Although I did think Rick Fox was the next Havlicek, Sherm Douglas was an all-star, Eric Williams could be another Cedric Maxwell, and Jacoby Ellsbury was/is a future Hall of Famer

[Birdbrain]

Actually posters overrate over-the-hill veterans as much as they do young players.

What the player did two years ago doesn't matter.  He could have been an all-star or in the D league. It's what the player is capable of doing now.

true.

also true is that posters get hammered for not going with the herd as to over/under rating players.

I agree some people are off thier rockers with regards to players ceiling, but alot of posters also just aren't as negitive on players as some of the posters who through the "you overrate x" comment around on a regular basis.

I agree for example the Powe herd seems to be thinning out.

[kenmaine]

Well, this overrating homer is still part of the Powe herd. Yes, he's a black hole on offense, but he's there to rebound, hustle, take charges, and score from about 7 feet in. I'll take Leon as my seventh, eighth, ninth man anytime.

[crownsy]

Actually posters overrate over-the-hill veterans as much as they do young players.

What the player did two years ago doesn't matter.  He could have been an all-star or in the D league. It's what the player is capable of doing now.

true.

also true is that posters get hammered for not going with the herd as to over/under rating players.

I agree some people are off thier rockers with regards to players ceiling, but alot of posters also just aren't as negitive on players as some of the posters who through the "you overrate x" comment around on a regular basis.

I agree for example the Powe herd seems to be thinning out.

I had powe turn into a good 6th man in NBA2k9 (rated 84) and when his seconed contract was up he wouldnt sign with me because i wouldnt make him a starter over KG. he now starts and plays TD's old spot on the spurs.

I dont like the spurs chances in 2013.

the new lookc celtics of

Rondo
Webster
Josh Smith
Booker (7th pick in the 2011 draft)
Perkins

with ray allen/ our #6 Draft pick from last year as our 6th man

Are coming for you video game spurs, and i still have 15 mill in cap.

thanks NBA2k9, for not minding signing short term contracts. i lined up paul, ray, and kevin to all come off the same year. to bad i wanted none of that years FA class, thus the #6 pick this year after last years crap fest. But now we have josh smith, who the game developed into Lebron light, Rondo, webster (who NBA2k9 thinks is the next reggie miller, 92 overall, 95 from deep) and ray allen and this new kid at SF.

[BballTim]

Could not disagree with you more.

  Doesn't surprise me, but it's still true. If you like the sound of it more I could say "many people underrate our younger players" instead of "many people overrate other team's players" but the effect is the same.

If you read today's comments fromt he other side, there is a small yet vocal minority of mavs fans that thinks GG is an allstar the mavs are burying on the bench.

I'm with Bud, posters on every board overrate there own and others young players. The magic of potential.

  It goes both ways. Two years ago Perk, who was 22 and was averaging about 4 points and 5 boards, had reached his ceiling as a player. The summer before Al gave us 16 and 12 people wanted to dump him because there were plenty of players better than him in the summer league. Most teams had players with at least as much potential as him, players like Channing Frye and Etan Thomas and Nick Collison. Last year most teams had better starting PGs than us and Rondo had nothing to do with whether we won or lost. For every "homer" who thinks that Gerald Green is a surefire all-star there's an "objective, rational fan" looking down their nose at the people who overrated the potential of Al or Rajon.

[Brickowski]

I'm still a Powe supporter.  BBD too.  I like both of them.

The Lakers have someone to match up against BBD--Odom.  But they have no answer for Powe.  Gasol can't guard him.

Conversely, the Cavs have someone to match up against Powe--Varejao. But they have no answer for BBD, and BBD also defends Ilgauskas well.

[Birdbrain]

Well, this overrating homer is still part of the Powe herd. Yes, he's a black hole on offense, but he's there to rebound, hustle, take charges, and score from about 7 feet in. I'll take Leon as my seventh, eighth, ninth man anytime.

Lets be clear for a guy off the bench who provides inside scoring (not lately) he's good in brief stretches but, I was more pointing to the herd concept that Powe is more valuable to the team than BBD.  Although I'm sure there are still some that believe this I would suspect/hope some might be reevaluating their position.  The mere thought that BBD might be more valuable was scoffed at around here just a few months ago.

[Birdbrain]

Could not disagree with you more.

  Doesn't surprise me, but it's still true. If you like the sound of it more I could say "many people underrate our younger players" instead of "many people overrate other team's players" but the effect is the same.

If you read today's comments fromt he other side, there is a small yet vocal minority of mavs fans that thinks GG is an allstar the mavs are burying on the bench.

I'm with Bud, posters on every board overrate there own and others young players. The magic of potential.

  It goes both ways. Two years ago Perk, who was 22 and was averaging about 4 points and 5 boards, had reached his ceiling as a player. The summer before Al gave us 16 and 12 people wanted to dump him because there were plenty of players better than him in the summer league. Most teams had players with at least as much potential as him, players like Channing Frye and Etan Thomas and Nick Collison. Last year most teams had better starting PGs than us and Rondo had nothing to do with whether we won or lost. For every "homer" who thinks that Gerald Green is a surefire all-star there's an "objective, rational fan" looking down their nose at the people who overrated the potential of Al or Rajon.

Thanks and TP for this post.  I remember how Perk had reached his 'ceiling'.

[Goldstar88]

When Tony comes back, I think we'll see a bit more of him playing some SF and probably some more of the 5-benchmen units. House has been playing quite good since he hasn't had to be the primary ball handler.

With all that said, Pruitt doesn't convince me, even though I like him. If and when we get another back-up PG or Cassell is ready to go, he should go back to the bench. Pruitt isn't PG material as far as I'm concerned at the moment. He simply has a better handle that the rest of our bench. And even though he has a nice shooting touch, he's not been consistantly making shots.

Tony allen is 6'4'' he is not a SF, and should not be covering SF. I was at the game yesterday and was watching Pruitt and giddens warm up for close to 20 minutes courtside. Pruitt was Consistently draining his threes and each time he shot he had the same form. Im not sure how you expect him to come into the game, play 8 minutes and be a consistent shooter. He is lucky to get 4 shots off in a game. His shooting should not be looked at until he is playing 15-20 mins.

[BudweiserCeltic]

When Tony comes back, I think we'll see a bit more of him playing some SF and probably some more of the 5-benchmen units. House has been playing quite good since he hasn't had to be the primary ball handler.

With all that said, Pruitt doesn't convince me, even though I like him. If and when we get another back-up PG or Cassell is ready to go, he should go back to the bench. Pruitt isn't PG material as far as I'm concerned at the moment. He simply has a better handle that the rest of our bench. And even though he has a nice shooting touch, he's not been consistantly making shots.

Tony allen is 6'4'' he is not a SF, and should not be covering SF. I was at the game yesterday and was watching Pruitt and giddens warm up for close to 20 minutes courtside. Pruitt was Consistently draining his threes and each time he shot he had the same form. Im not sure how you expect him to come into the game, play 8 minutes and be a consistent shooter. He is lucky to get 4 shots off in a game. His shooting should not be looked at until he is playing 15-20 mins.

I really could give a crap about how good a player looks shooting during practice time. Most players in the NBA look really good.

[footey]

BBD has jumped ahead of Powe because he has developed an outside game. Powe is basically a smaller version of Perk. Good D, good rebounder, but no outside game.

[crownsy]

BBD has jumped ahead of Powe because he has developed an outside game. Powe is basically a smaller version of Perk. Good D, good rebounder, but no outside game.

don't insult perk by comparing leon's defense to his.

I mean, i really like leon, probley to much. I love his hustle, his boards, and his ability to play the garbage man for you without complaint (by this, in case anyones confused, i mean his ability to clean up shots and get us points.) He is an ideal 7-9th man on a team.

But defensivly, leon has alot of problems. for instance;

-doesn't rotate well, at all.

- Never runs at/closes out a mid range jumpshooter.

- can't keep aquare with a guy with good footwork

- to small to challange some PF's and alot of centers release

+ Takes good charges (read: flops extremly well. but since its leon and i like him, we'll call it "anticipation"

[Goldstar88]

When Tony comes back, I think we'll see a bit more of him playing some SF and probably some more of the 5-benchmen units. House has been playing quite good since he hasn't had to be the primary ball handler.

With all that said, Pruitt doesn't convince me, even though I like him. If and when we get another back-up PG or Cassell is ready to go, he should go back to the bench. Pruitt isn't PG material as far as I'm concerned at the moment. He simply has a better handle that the rest of our bench. And even though he has a nice shooting touch, he's not been consistantly making shots.

Tony allen is 6'4'' he is not a SF, and should not be covering SF. I was at the game yesterday and was watching Pruitt and giddens warm up for close to 20 minutes courtside. Pruitt was Consistently draining his threes and each time he shot he had the same form. Im not sure how you expect him to come into the game, play 8 minutes and be a consistent shooter. He is lucky to get 4 shots off in a game. His shooting should not be looked at until he is playing 15-20 mins.

I really could give a crap about how good a player looks shooting during practice time. Most players in the NBA look really good.

Well Giddens certainly proved your statement wrong when he was consistenly missing his shots, and he is a shooting guard... I do not think most NBA players go 8-10 from 3 point range even if it is practice.