Gabe Pruitt

[Bankshot]

BBD has jumped ahead of Powe because he has developed an outside game. Powe is basically a smaller version of Perk. Good D, good rebounder, but no outside game.

I think BBD moved ahead of Powe more so because of his defense.  Powe doesn't play good defense as you suggest.

[BudweiserCeltic]

When Tony comes back, I think we'll see a bit more of him playing some SF and probably some more of the 5-benchmen units. House has been playing quite good since he hasn't had to be the primary ball handler.

With all that said, Pruitt doesn't convince me, even though I like him. If and when we get another back-up PG or Cassell is ready to go, he should go back to the bench. Pruitt isn't PG material as far as I'm concerned at the moment. He simply has a better handle that the rest of our bench. And even though he has a nice shooting touch, he's not been consistantly making shots.

Tony allen is 6'4'' he is not a SF, and should not be covering SF. I was at the game yesterday and was watching Pruitt and giddens warm up for close to 20 minutes courtside. Pruitt was Consistently draining his threes and each time he shot he had the same form. Im not sure how you expect him to come into the game, play 8 minutes and be a consistent shooter. He is lucky to get 4 shots off in a game. His shooting should not be looked at until he is playing 15-20 mins.

I really could give a crap about how good a player looks shooting during practice time. Most players in the NBA look really good.

Well Giddens certainly proved your statement wrong when he was consistenly missing his shots, and he is a shooting guard... I do not think most NBA players go 8-10 from 3 point range even if it is practice.  

Right. Let's focus on one dude that doesn't fit the mold.  Anyways, no one here is disputing that Pruitt is a good shooter, but when it counts, during games, he hasn't been consistent. Games are a different monster, so I really could care less of what he does during practice time. That's really the bottom line.

[nickagneta]

See the front page.

Given Doc's comments regarding ball movement on the second team being the reason for the upsurge of scoring from the unit(see front page story), is it any wonder it is happening during a stretch when Tony Allen and Leon Powe have been playing either a seriously reduced role or no role at all? Both players are ball movement deterrents. Suddenly when Doc puts in a four man bench unit with Ray or Paul of BBD, Scal, Eddie, and Pruitt, the ball is moving, Eddie and BBD have gotten big scoring days, Ray is on an unreal shooting spree, the turnovers from the second unit have plummeted.

I don't think there's any surprise why. You now have five guys on the floor that have the ability to pass well and hit open outside shots and who all bring a decent defensive presence and lots of energy. A truly nice "small ball" lineup.

[crownsy]

When Tony comes back, I think we'll see a bit more of him playing some SF and probably some more of the 5-benchmen units. House has been playing quite good since he hasn't had to be the primary ball handler.

With all that said, Pruitt doesn't convince me, even though I like him. If and when we get another back-up PG or Cassell is ready to go, he should go back to the bench. Pruitt isn't PG material as far as I'm concerned at the moment. He simply has a better handle that the rest of our bench. And even though he has a nice shooting touch, he's not been consistantly making shots.

Tony allen is 6'4'' he is not a SF, and should not be covering SF. I was at the game yesterday and was watching Pruitt and giddens warm up for close to 20 minutes courtside. Pruitt was Consistently draining his threes and each time he shot he had the same form. Im not sure how you expect him to come into the game, play 8 minutes and be a consistent shooter. He is lucky to get 4 shots off in a game. His shooting should not be looked at until he is playing 15-20 mins.

I really could give a crap about how good a player looks shooting during practice time. Most players in the NBA look really good.

I do not think most NBA players go 8-10 from 3 point range even if it is practice.  

i think you'd be suprisied.

I cant post it at work, but ever seen the video where arenas and stevenson do best out of 100 3 pointers after practice?

Forget that Agent zero makes 77 ONE HANDED. Lets just look at deshawn, who is a good 3 point shooter, but not great.

he goes 74/100, so 74% ungaurded. They also go around the world, so it isn't because deshawn is good from one spot. He isn't even a great three point shooter, he only took the bet because gilbert said he would shoot one handed.

I can assure you, for instance, that rajon is about 60-75% from downtown when he's just shooting from spots. Bud is right.

also, on an unrealated note about the video: im pretty sure if gilbert didn't get to cheat (read, screw with deshawn while he was shooting) deshawn would have gone well over 80%. before gilbert starts messing with him, hes 30/30.

[BudweiserCeltic]

When Tony comes back, I think we'll see a bit more of him playing some SF and probably some more of the 5-benchmen units. House has been playing quite good since he hasn't had to be the primary ball handler.

With all that said, Pruitt doesn't convince me, even though I like him. If and when we get another back-up PG or Cassell is ready to go, he should go back to the bench. Pruitt isn't PG material as far as I'm concerned at the moment. He simply has a better handle that the rest of our bench. And even though he has a nice shooting touch, he's not been consistantly making shots.

Tony allen is 6'4'' he is not a SF, and should not be covering SF. I was at the game yesterday and was watching Pruitt and giddens warm up for close to 20 minutes courtside. Pruitt was Consistently draining his threes and each time he shot he had the same form. Im not sure how you expect him to come into the game, play 8 minutes and be a consistent shooter. He is lucky to get 4 shots off in a game. His shooting should not be looked at until he is playing 15-20 mins.

I really could give a crap about how good a player looks shooting during practice time. Most players in the NBA look really good.

I do not think most NBA players go 8-10 from 3 point range even if it is practice.  

Bud is right.

Of course I'm right. I'm always right lol. TP

[Goldstar88]

When Tony comes back, I think we'll see a bit more of him playing some SF and probably some more of the 5-benchmen units. House has been playing quite good since he hasn't had to be the primary ball handler.

With all that said, Pruitt doesn't convince me, even though I like him. If and when we get another back-up PG or Cassell is ready to go, he should go back to the bench. Pruitt isn't PG material as far as I'm concerned at the moment. He simply has a better handle that the rest of our bench. And even though he has a nice shooting touch, he's not been consistantly making shots.

Tony allen is 6'4'' he is not a SF, and should not be covering SF. I was at the game yesterday and was watching Pruitt and giddens warm up for close to 20 minutes courtside. Pruitt was Consistently draining his threes and each time he shot he had the same form. Im not sure how you expect him to come into the game, play 8 minutes and be a consistent shooter. He is lucky to get 4 shots off in a game. His shooting should not be looked at until he is playing 15-20 mins.

I really could give a crap about how good a player looks shooting during practice time. Most players in the NBA look really good.

Well Giddens certainly proved your statement wrong when he was consistenly missing his shots, and he is a shooting guard... I do not think most NBA players go 8-10 from 3 point range even if it is practice.  

Right. Let's focus on one dude that doesn't fit the mold.  Anyways, no one here is disputing that Pruitt is a good shooter, but when it counts, during games, he hasn't been consistent. Games are a different monster, so I really could care less of what he does during practice time. That's really the bottom line.

So let me get this straight, you are saying that he is an inconsistently good shooter? Im again, curious how you expect him to shoot consistently in games when he is playing an avg of 8mins and taking maybe 4 shots? You say that it does not matter what you do in practice. If you can not hit the side of a barn in practice, why would anything change in a game situation? Practicing prepares you for game situations. I dont think you understand the logic behind shooting.

[crownsy]

When Tony comes back, I think we'll see a bit more of him playing some SF and probably some more of the 5-benchmen units. House has been playing quite good since he hasn't had to be the primary ball handler.

With all that said, Pruitt doesn't convince me, even though I like him. If and when we get another back-up PG or Cassell is ready to go, he should go back to the bench. Pruitt isn't PG material as far as I'm concerned at the moment. He simply has a better handle that the rest of our bench. And even though he has a nice shooting touch, he's not been consistantly making shots.

Tony allen is 6'4'' he is not a SF, and should not be covering SF. I was at the game yesterday and was watching Pruitt and giddens warm up for close to 20 minutes courtside. Pruitt was Consistently draining his threes and each time he shot he had the same form. Im not sure how you expect him to come into the game, play 8 minutes and be a consistent shooter. He is lucky to get 4 shots off in a game. His shooting should not be looked at until he is playing 15-20 mins.

I really could give a crap about how good a player looks shooting during practice time. Most players in the NBA look really good.

Well Giddens certainly proved your statement wrong when he was consistenly missing his shots, and he is a shooting guard... I do not think most NBA players go 8-10 from 3 point range even if it is practice.  

Right. Let's focus on one dude that doesn't fit the mold.  Anyways, no one here is disputing that Pruitt is a good shooter, but when it counts, during games, he hasn't been consistent. Games are a different monster, so I really could care less of what he does during practice time. That's really the bottom line.

So let me get this straight, you are saying that he is an inconsistently good shooter? Im again, curious how you expect him to shoot consistently in games when he is playing an avg of 8mins and taking maybe 4 shots? You say that it does not matter what you do in practice. If you can not hit the side of a barn in practice, why would anything change in a game situation? Practicing prepares you for game situations. I dont think you understand the logic behind shooting.

see above post of mine.

also what changes between practice and games? are you serious with that?

yoru logic is kinda flawed, why isn't rajon a knock down shooter in games then? ever seen him at the shootaround before a game? He's great, probley like a 70% shooter (last time i went i counted him as 42/60 from the mid range spots he walks around. i didnt watch him the whole deep session he did, but he was 7/7 at one point while we were laughing)

[BudweiserCeltic]

When Tony comes back, I think we'll see a bit more of him playing some SF and probably some more of the 5-benchmen units. House has been playing quite good since he hasn't had to be the primary ball handler.

With all that said, Pruitt doesn't convince me, even though I like him. If and when we get another back-up PG or Cassell is ready to go, he should go back to the bench. Pruitt isn't PG material as far as I'm concerned at the moment. He simply has a better handle that the rest of our bench. And even though he has a nice shooting touch, he's not been consistantly making shots.

Tony allen is 6'4'' he is not a SF, and should not be covering SF. I was at the game yesterday and was watching Pruitt and giddens warm up for close to 20 minutes courtside. Pruitt was Consistently draining his threes and each time he shot he had the same form. Im not sure how you expect him to come into the game, play 8 minutes and be a consistent shooter. He is lucky to get 4 shots off in a game. His shooting should not be looked at until he is playing 15-20 mins.

I really could give a crap about how good a player looks shooting during practice time. Most players in the NBA look really good.

Well Giddens certainly proved your statement wrong when he was consistenly missing his shots, and he is a shooting guard... I do not think most NBA players go 8-10 from 3 point range even if it is practice.  

Right. Let's focus on one dude that doesn't fit the mold.  Anyways, no one here is disputing that Pruitt is a good shooter, but when it counts, during games, he hasn't been consistent. Games are a different monster, so I really could care less of what he does during practice time. That's really the bottom line.

So let me get this straight, you are saying that he is an inconsistently good shooter? Im again, curious how you expect him to shoot consistently in games when he is playing an avg of 8mins and taking maybe 4 shots? You say that it does not matter what you do in practice. If you can not hit the side of a barn in practice, why would anything change in a game situation? Practicing prepares you for game situations. I dont think you understand the logic behind shooting.

Pruitt is playing about 11 minutes in the month of January. He's shooting 29% from the floor and 33% from 3-point land. May not be the 15 minutes you're hoping for, but 11 minutes is quite a bit of playing time for someone at his current position, and 29% is quite bad.

If you really can't see the difference between practice and games, then this is a hopeless discussion we're having.

[ssspence]

See the front page.

Given Doc's comments regarding ball movement on the second team being the reason for the upsurge of scoring from the unit(see front page story), is it any wonder it is happening during a stretch when Tony Allen and Leon Powe have been playing either a seriously reduced role or no role at all? Both players are ball movement deterrents. Suddenly when Doc puts in a four man bench unit with Ray or Paul of BBD, Scal, Eddie, and Pruitt, the ball is moving, Eddie and BBD have gotten big scoring days, Ray is on an unreal shooting spree, the turnovers from the second unit have plummeted.

I don't think there's any surprise why. You now have five guys on the floor that have the ability to pass well and hit open outside shots and who all bring a decent defensive presence and lots of energy. A truly nice "small ball" lineup.

i agree, it's not a coincidence. tellin' ya, send powe and tony to memphis for warrick and q ross. it absolutely makes sense for both teams.

ross is insurance for gabe. warrick gives us a guy who can get to the basket in a tighter half-court game. work him in for scal some, see how it goes....

[Goldstar88]

When Tony comes back, I think we'll see a bit more of him playing some SF and probably some more of the 5-benchmen units. House has been playing quite good since he hasn't had to be the primary ball handler.

With all that said, Pruitt doesn't convince me, even though I like him. If and when we get another back-up PG or Cassell is ready to go, he should go back to the bench. Pruitt isn't PG material as far as I'm concerned at the moment. He simply has a better handle that the rest of our bench. And even though he has a nice shooting touch, he's not been consistantly making shots.

Tony allen is 6'4'' he is not a SF, and should not be covering SF. I was at the game yesterday and was watching Pruitt and giddens warm up for close to 20 minutes courtside. Pruitt was Consistently draining his threes and each time he shot he had the same form. Im not sure how you expect him to come into the game, play 8 minutes and be a consistent shooter. He is lucky to get 4 shots off in a game. His shooting should not be looked at until he is playing 15-20 mins.

I really could give a crap about how good a player looks shooting during practice time. Most players in the NBA look really good.

Well Giddens certainly proved your statement wrong when he was consistenly missing his shots, and he is a shooting guard... I do not think most NBA players go 8-10 from 3 point range even if it is practice.  

Right. Let's focus on one dude that doesn't fit the mold.  Anyways, no one here is disputing that Pruitt is a good shooter, but when it counts, during games, he hasn't been consistent. Games are a different monster, so I really could care less of what he does during practice time. That's really the bottom line.

So let me get this straight, you are saying that he is an inconsistently good shooter? Im again, curious how you expect him to shoot consistently in games when he is playing an avg of 8mins and taking maybe 4 shots? You say that it does not matter what you do in practice. If you can not hit the side of a barn in practice, why would anything change in a game situation? Practicing prepares you for game situations. I dont think you understand the logic behind shooting.

Pruitt is playing about 11 minutes in the month of January. He's shooting 29% from the floor and 33% from 3-point land. May not be the 15 minutes you're hoping for, but 11 minutes is quite a bit of playing time for someone at his current position, and 29% is quite bad.

If you really can't see the difference between practice and games, then this is a hopeless discussion we're having.

When did I ever say that "there is no difference between practice and games"? im simply saying that one impacts the other. Obviously shooting in a game when your covered is different then a shootaround or warmup. When Pruitt and Giddens were shooting together Pruitt looked to be a much better shooter. he was making alot more shots, had better form and release. From what I have experianced, when going into games for short stints it is hard to get a feel for your shot, and be consistent. (That may be hard to relate too if one has not played organized basketball.) What I was for the most part trying to get across is that he has not had enough attempts in games to state that he is an inconsistent shooter. Its hard to have a good fg% when your getting spotty minutes. I guess only time will tell.

cheers, Budd.