Glenn Davis Outscores James Posey!!

[EJPLAYA]

I used to like the Hornets (Byron Sctt notwithstanding) because Chris Paul is so much fun to watch.  But now I root against them so that folks here will stop the incessant whining about Posey's departure.

Come on, Brick.  The Celtics would be better with Posey still here, and I expect you know that and are choosing to be a bit of a contrarian.  The players, management, coaching staff, fans, and commentators all seem to think that Posey's presence is missed, and the statistics bear that out as well.

Yep, I'm a contrarian.  I don't think Posey would have added much at all.  They are better off giving Posey's minutes to Tony Allen.  Unfortunately, Allen is hurt.

Unfortunately Allen sucks... You really didn't just say that we are better off with TA in there than Posey did you?!

[Brickowski]

In the short run, no.  In the long run, yes.

In fact, I like both of the players who are the prime targets of the haters this year.  BBD and TA are frustratingly inconsistent at times, but the potential is there. 

[Chris]

In the short run, no.  In the long run, yes.

In fact, I like both of the players who are the prime targets of the haters this year.  BBD and TA are frustratingly inconsistent at times, but the potential is there. 

Honestly, I don't even think BBD is inconsistent.  He may be inconsistent on the offensive end, but he is (by a large margin) their most consistent defender off the bench.

[EJPLAYA]

In the short run, no.  In the long run, yes.

I have heard some pretty off the wall things out of you Brick, but that takes the cake I think!

It isn't even close unless you mean how they will both be playing in 7 years. I think even then TA won't be playing better than Posey. The guy has hit his ceiling. The only thing he does well, defending, he doesn't do as well as Posey does. Plus he is a lot shorter which doesn't allow him to defend the players we need him to. Posey is clutch. TA is a turnover waiting to happen.

I think "a bit contrarian" with this line of comments out of you is putting it mildly... Wow!

[winsomme]

I used to like the Hornets (Byron Sctt notwithstanding) because Chris Paul is so much fun to watch.  But now I root against them so that folks here will stop the incessant whining about Posey's departure.

Come on, Brick.  The Celtics would be better with Posey still here, and I expect you know that and are choosing to be a bit of a contrarian.  The players, management, coaching staff, fans, and commentators all seem to think that Posey's presence is missed, and the statistics bear that out as well.

  I think that, until we hit the recent skid, the statistics showed that we weren't missing Posey at all.

yeah, but until that skid, we were overworking our starters to win games and then the fatigue started to set in....

if we had Posey (or someone like him) contributing like Pose is in NO, it is certainly a sound argument that the starters would not have had the same burden to win the games and would not be as worn down...possibly avoiding at least the length of that bad stretch.

[Roy Hobbs]

Roy,

I'm surprised that you would suggest that the Celtics would have done appreciably better during our ten game dolldrums if we had Posey. We were soundly beaten in most of those games by some mediocre teams because everyone was playing poorly, including the Big 3.  To suggest that things would have been different had we had James Posey during that stretch is fantasy.  TP for you, Brick.

Despite the words you put in my mouth, all I said was that the Celtics are a better team with Posey than without.  Do you disagree?  If so, based upon what?

[Roy Hobbs]

In the short run, no.  In the long run, yes.

In fact, I like both of the players who are the prime targets of the haters this year.  BBD and TA are frustratingly inconsistent at times, but the potential is there. 

Honestly, I don't even think BBD is inconsistent.  He may be inconsistent on the offensive end, but he is (by a large margin) their most consistent defender off the bench.

Well, one sign of that inconsistency on defense was last night.  BBD was terrible.

[Chris]

In the short run, no.  In the long run, yes.

In fact, I like both of the players who are the prime targets of the haters this year.  BBD and TA are frustratingly inconsistent at times, but the potential is there. 

Honestly, I don't even think BBD is inconsistent.  He may be inconsistent on the offensive end, but he is (by a large margin) their most consistent defender off the bench.

Well, one sign of that inconsistency on defense was last night.  BBD was terrible.

Its all relatively speaking.  If BBD is inconsistent defensively, Powe is Gerald Green.

[crownsy]

In the short run, no.  In the long run, yes.

In fact, I like both of the players who are the prime targets of the haters this year.  BBD and TA are frustratingly inconsistent at times, but the potential is there. 

Honestly, I don't even think BBD is inconsistent.  He may be inconsistent on the offensive end, but he is (by a large margin) their most consistent defender off the bench.

Well, one sign of that inconsistency on defense was last night.  BBD was terrible.

Its all relatively speaking.  If BBD is inconsistent defensively, Powe is Gerald Green.

lol

[Brickowski]

Posey has his bad games too, as he did last night against the Knicks.  Don't romanticize the past.  Posey is no panacea, as the Hornets are discovering. 

He did a fine job for the Celtics last year, but how long he can continue to perform at that level remains to be seen-- and certainly he does not seem to be performing as well for the Hornets as he did for the Celtics.  Maybe the fit isn't as good, but maybe Posey is in decline.  He's has knee issues in the past.

[EJPLAYA]

Posey has his bad games too, as he did last night against the Knicks.  Don't romanticize the past.  Posey is no panacea, as the Hornets are discovering. 

He did a fine job for the Celtics last year, but how long he can continue to perform at that level remains to be seen-- and certainly he does not seem to be performing as well for the Hornets as he did for the Celtics.  Maybe the fit isn't as good, but maybe Posey is in decline.  He's has knee issues in the past.

He is shooting 50% from the floor 44% from three. Both of those are better than last year with us! He is averaging more points and rebounds. Where is this decline?! So what if he has had knee issues in the past. TA has knee issues in the present!

The Hornets aren't the Celtics either. They are a young squad who will be a true contender soon, but not yet. It isn't the same. They need a Posey in 2-3 years. By then maybe he won't be the same guy. That's probably why Danny wouldn't go four. But to say TA is more valuable than Posey is something that YOU don't even believe. You just like to throw comments out there to see if people are paying attention I've decided. It does keep it interesting though...

[Brickowski]

Numbers schnumbers. Tony Allen has better numbers than he did last year, too.  So what?

The Hornets are 21-11 and should have a better record. That's my bottom line.

[footey]

Roy, sorry for putting words in your mouth. Of course they would be a better team if they still had Posey.  And they would be better if they had Marbury too.  Now please answer my question: Do you think the dramatic funk that this team has just suffered would have been appreciably different had Posey been playing for us?  The discussion on Posey of late has been drummed up alot because of the team's recent doldrums, which is why I think my question is relevant. Thanks.

[Roy Hobbs]

Do you think the dramatic funk that this team has just suffered would have been appreciably different had Posey been playing for us?  The discussion on Posey of late has been drummed up alot because of the team's recent doldrums, which is why I think my question is relevant. Thanks.

It's hard to say.  Posey's contribution goes well beyond his stats and his defense.  He also brings a lot of leadership and fire to the team.  Two of the Celts problems during the slump were energy and hustle; Posey would have helped not only in allowing the starters to play less minutes and solidifying the bench, but also by psyching up his teammates.

Would it have changed the results that much?  I can't say that it would have, but I also can't say that it would not have.

[housecall]

I have watched 90%of Hornets game this season,and without Posey in this first half of the season,their record would look closer to 15-17 because they got off to a slow start.If it wasn't for Posey's play they would have lost about 5-6games that he helped lift them to wins .He has played starter minutes in some of their games.I find it odd when he has 1 subpar game his name,stats,etc. is compared to BBD's.

Posey has done some things i didn't think he was still physical capable of in games,like a reverse dunk on someone.Posey looks better than he did with the Celtics so far.