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Re: FREE POB!
« Reply #135 on: January 01, 2009, 11:48:48 PM »

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Perhaps Danny will be freeing POB soon.

He shouldn't have signed him in the first place.

Waive him.
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Re: FREE POB!
« Reply #136 on: January 02, 2009, 12:11:15 AM »

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You people who keep insisting on thinking that giving Patrick O'Bryant minutes is going to make him a better player just do not get it. Have any of you ever coached any type of team on any level that was competitively based? Have you coached a team where the main goal was winning and not teaching the kids to have fun and making sure everyone gets to play a minimum of minutes or innings?

Because if you have then you should know that coaches make players better in practice and that the players earn the right to get to play by getting better in practice. You just don't give players time on the floor to see what they can do. If they can't get the job done against their own team mates who they are extremely familiar with, know all their moves and tendencies, know the plays they are running and how to best defend them and who they get to guard more than any other players in the league, what makes you think that player is going to get the job done against players they are unfamiliar with, who's moves they haven't seen a thousand times, who's plays they don't already know. The concept is ridiculous.

Doc, Coach T, and Coach Ray know what POB can do and do not need to gift wrap valuable minutes in a game where every minute needs to be a productively positive minute in order to suddenly unlock some skill that POB has been hiding from them. If he's not doing it in practice, and apparently from KG's one on one tutorial with POB today he obviously isn't getting it done in practice, then he's only going to hurt this team when he gets on the floor.

This is not Little League or Pop Warner or Youth League BB. It is the NBA and coaches get paid to win and get fired for losing. Doc isn't going to put his trust in a player to produce wins for him if that player just isn't performing, learning and executing in practice. The notion is just plain silly.

POB, Giddens, Walker and Pruitt will play when they have earned the right to play by earning Doc's trust in the quality and consistency of their game. Until then don't expect those players to get minutes simply because the players in front of them aren't wildly successful. Because chances are those players you are calling for might have made the bench players in front of them look like All Stars in comparison had they been put into the same exact circumstances.

Re: FREE POB!
« Reply #137 on: January 02, 2009, 08:38:02 AM »

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Can I give more than one TP to Nick?

I am standing and applauding, Nick. Sometimes, I feel like I'm surrounded by high school parents at the pre-season meeting on this board. "Play my kid. Play my kid. Never mind that he doesn't come to practice. Play my kid."

As I've said before, it's the Celtics Blog way: "Out of sight, top of mind."
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Re: FREE POB!
« Reply #138 on: January 02, 2009, 11:29:31 AM »

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Can I give more than one TP to Nick?


I did it for you ;)

Re: FREE POB!
« Reply #139 on: January 19, 2009, 10:08:49 PM »

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the suns had a real center tonight and yet Patrick O'Benched still can't get off the pine...

such a shame...

i'm holding out hope that marbury and mourning or j. smith become celtics in the near future...i'm guessing that will spell the end of our tall specimen of potential.
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Re: FREE POB!
« Reply #140 on: January 19, 2009, 10:09:54 PM »

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check that...

at the 5:32 mark he was freed...
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Re: FREE POB!
« Reply #141 on: January 19, 2009, 10:14:38 PM »

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his decision making reaction is slow in the nba.

Danny should cut him and admit his mistakes

we need a viable c/pf option come playoffs

Re: FREE POB!
« Reply #142 on: January 19, 2009, 10:25:39 PM »

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A foul, two turnovers, and lousy defense in 4 minutes of playing time.  A pretty typical night from POB.

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Re: FREE POB!
« Reply #143 on: January 19, 2009, 10:26:44 PM »

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A foul, two turnovers, and lousy defense in 4 minutes of playing time.  A pretty typical night from POB.

He did block a shot.  He is still tall, you know.

Re: FREE POB!
« Reply #144 on: January 19, 2009, 10:28:05 PM »

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I am standing and applauding, Nick. Sometimes, I feel like I'm surrounded by high school parents at the pre-season meeting on this board. "Play my kid. Play my kid. Never mind that he doesn't come to practice. Play my kid."

 ;D ;D ;D

That's hilarious. And so true. TP.

Re: FREE POB!
« Reply #145 on: January 19, 2009, 10:58:59 PM »

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A foul, two turnovers, and lousy defense in 4 minutes of playing time.  A pretty typical night from POB.

Why people continue to beg for playing time for him escapes me. He's one release away from disappearing forever.
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Re: FREE POB!
« Reply #146 on: January 19, 2009, 11:13:22 PM »

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You people who keep insisting on thinking that giving Patrick O'Bryant minutes is going to make him a better player just do not get it. Have any of you ever coached any type of team on any level that was competitively based? Have you coached a team where the main goal was winning and not teaching the kids to have fun and making sure everyone gets to play a minimum of minutes or innings?

Because if you have then you should know that coaches make players better in practice and that the players earn the right to get to play by getting better in practice. You just don't give players time on the floor to see what they can do. If they can't get the job done against their own team mates who they are extremely familiar with, know all their moves and tendencies, know the plays they are running and how to best defend them and who they get to guard more than any other players in the league, what makes you think that player is going to get the job done against players they are unfamiliar with, who's moves they haven't seen a thousand times, who's plays they don't already know. The concept is ridiculous.

Doc, Coach T, and Coach Ray know what POB can do and do not need to gift wrap valuable minutes in a game where every minute needs to be a productively positive minute in order to suddenly unlock some skill that POB has been hiding from them. If he's not doing it in practice, and apparently from KG's one on one tutorial with POB today he obviously isn't getting it done in practice, then he's only going to hurt this team when he gets on the floor.

This is not Little League or Pop Warner or Youth League BB. It is the NBA and coaches get paid to win and get fired for losing. Doc isn't going to put his trust in a player to produce wins for him if that player just isn't performing, learning and executing in practice. The notion is just plain silly.

POB, Giddens, Walker and Pruitt will play when they have earned the right to play by earning Doc's trust in the quality and consistency of their game. Until then don't expect those players to get minutes simply because the players in front of them aren't wildly successful. Because chances are those players you are calling for might have made the bench players in front of them look like All Stars in comparison had they been put into the same exact circumstances.

Then again, we don't practice much because of the hectic schedule. I'm not a POB advocate, just throwing it out there.
Grab a few boards, keep the TO's under 14, close out on shooters and we'll win.

Re: FREE POB!
« Reply #147 on: January 20, 2009, 12:23:27 AM »

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I will agree that tonight wasn't the best of the showings out there by him in his limited minutes this year, however what did he do that was so awful?! He didn't take a shot, but had a block shot, an assist, and a steal. Yes he had a couple turnovers and a foul, and once again I repeat tonight wasn't a great one for him, but you act like the guy was 0-10 from the floor, committed 5 turnovers and 5 fouls. He was a non-factor. As you all like to say though, it was in garbage time. If the positives don't count in your book in garbage time, then the negatives shouldn't either. Unless of course you have an agenda...

Re: FREE POB!
« Reply #148 on: January 20, 2009, 12:26:08 AM »

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If the positives don't count in your book in garbage time, then the negatives shouldn't either. Unless of course you have an agenda...

Its a giant Celticsblog conspiracy to keep POB's minutes down. OH THE HUMANITY!  ;)

Re: FREE POB!
« Reply #149 on: January 20, 2009, 12:32:28 AM »

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If the positives don't count in your book in garbage time, then the negatives shouldn't either. Unless of course you have an agenda...

Its a giant Celticsblog conspiracy to keep POB's minutes down. OH THE HUMANITY!  ;)

Well obviously no one's comments on here mean anything to Doc or Danny since none of us really have any clue and are just armchair quarterbacks. If the naysayers had their way he would have already been cut and replaced with a different 3rd stringer. It is accurate though to call out someone who twists the argument to fit their own opinion, but yet to not consider the same argument when it doesn't fit. If you are right, then fine. If wrong, then fine. When someone refuses to admit they aren't always correct, then they lose all credibility.