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Re: Scalabrine
« Reply #30 on: October 09, 2008, 01:07:06 PM »

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I was VERY disapointed in Scal.  You'd think he'd come into the season in shape knowing he'd be fighting for minutes OR a spot.
I'd say the only reason(s) he will be with the team is expiring contract and he's a good guy.  He offers us nothing.  I'd expect to see a trade with him, davis (not so hot last night) and or Cassell.  I think Pruitt should be kept and Miles will help WAY more than scal for little money.  He looks like a good platoon sub for Posey's spot. 
Giddens will be in d league, scal ? and pruitt/cassell will be if guys
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Re: Scalabrine
« Reply #31 on: October 09, 2008, 01:10:17 PM »

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Every team needs a Kevin Millar, Scal is ours. He has one of the few financially movable contracts on the team, unfortunately that is way more valuable than his play.

then we need to move him, because if we cut pruitt or miles, both of whom are wayyyy more useful than scal, i'll be ticked.

how is pruitt more "useful" than Scal?  What has he done except make a nice pass last night in a preseason game or drop 20 in the d-league?

Scal is a smart and serviceable player.  He's also making 3M.

Pruitt is gonzo and Scal is here to stay.  Get over it.

what, pray tell has been servicable about scal for the last 2 seasons while he's sat around balloning up to ham sandwich size?

passing? opps, he's bad at that

rebounding? lets move along.

shooting? nope, just last night he airballed 2 open looks and clanged 3 others.

defense? nope, got toasted last night, as he did in his limited times last year.

offensive awarness? nope, he through the ball away 3 times last night anticipating a cut that never came, and once when he saw the cut and threw the ball 5 feet behind the cutter.

so what, pray tell, is "servicable" about him? the fact that he's still breathing?

i'm so sick and tired of the "well sure, i mean, he's not a good basketball player, but he's cerebral about the game!"

h does nothing. N-O-T-H-I-N-G that is useful to us.

seriously, name me one thing he's even average at, and not from 2 years ago. from right now, with a new spare tire around the waist.

your right in that he won't be the cut because of his terrable contract, but dont tell me he's worth something. He's a terrable player, easily the worst we have.

The question remains: what is useful about pruitt?  not much to say about that do you now...?

from last night alone? i'll take the  assists and pushing the fast break, 2 steals, his scoring and the fact that willhams went from scoring at will to 0-7 while gabe gaurded him, including a near block.

oh, and i guess the fact that he's a better shooter than scal can ever hope to be from behind the arc.

I can't help but notice in your rush to assume i would curl up in a ball about pruitt, you offered no defense of your claims that scal is a servicable player on this team.

So, go ahead, what exactly does scal bring from the SF position that walker, a rookie, and miles, a dude who may not even make it back to a shadow of himself because of a knee injury, don't do much better?

the funny part is, we agree gabe is probley the cut i think, sicne we are way to deep at gaurd to get him the minutes he needs to develop, but don't tell me scal isn't the cat turd in the room. hes a terrable player, but he's a good trade chip thanks to his retarded contract.
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Re: Scalabrine
« Reply #32 on: October 09, 2008, 01:58:38 PM »

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the funny part is, we agree gabe is probley the cut i think, sicne we are way to deep at gaurd to get him the minutes he needs to develop, but don't tell me scal isn't the cat turd in the room. hes a terrable player, but he's a good trade chip thanks to his retarded contract.

i didn't realize you realize pruitt will be cut - all i saw was that you'd be "ticked" if it happened.  anyways if that's the case then fine, i'm not going to waste my time (or yours) trying to defend air intangibles...
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Re: Scalabrine
« Reply #33 on: October 09, 2008, 02:04:45 PM »

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the funny part is, we agree gabe is probley the cut i think, sicne we are way to deep at gaurd to get him the minutes he needs to develop, but don't tell me scal isn't the cat turd in the room. hes a terrable player, but he's a good trade chip thanks to his retarded contract.

i didn't realize you realize pruitt will be cut - all i saw was that you'd be "ticked" if it happened.  anyways if that's the case then fine, i'm not going to waste my time (or yours) trying to defend air intangibles...

yea, i'll be upset froma  talent overall standpoint because i think he's a useful player, but even we don't play small enough to justify going 6 deep at the 1 and 2 heh.
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Re: Scalabrine
« Reply #34 on: October 09, 2008, 02:13:04 PM »

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Watching Scal play basketball makes me cry. He is the alpha and omega of suck.

If he ever gets hired as a coach for his "intangibles" I'll probably have to toss myself off a bridge.



Re: Scalabrine
« Reply #35 on: October 09, 2008, 02:17:20 PM »

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I don't get why people mention Scal's 'being in shape'. Did he look winded or tired? I haven't seen any evidence of his not being in playing condition. Just because he isn't chiseled doesn't mean he isn't in his top playing condition.

The problem is the way he is playing. It continues to be horrible. He seems to be getting worse, and he wasn't great to begin with. He needs to show something this preseason.

Re: Scalabrine
« Reply #36 on: October 09, 2008, 02:22:15 PM »

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I don't get why people mention Scal's 'being in shape'. Did he look winded or tired? I haven't seen any evidence of his not being in playing condition. Just because he isn't chiseled doesn't mean he isn't in his top playing condition.

The problem is the way he is playing. It continues to be horrible. He seems to be getting worse, and he wasn't great to begin with. He needs to show something this preseason.

how bout the fact that he was the slowest person in the arena and didn't husstle?

you only get tired if you try.
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Re: Scalabrine
« Reply #37 on: October 09, 2008, 02:28:17 PM »

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Scal has jowels, a gut and soft arms.
not in shape
You'd think he'd want to hang around in the nba at this point for the retirement package, 10 yrs=so much etc

Re: Scalabrine
« Reply #38 on: October 09, 2008, 02:55:48 PM »

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I don't get why people mention Scal's 'being in shape'. Did he look winded or tired? I haven't seen any evidence of his not being in playing condition. Just because he isn't chiseled doesn't mean he isn't in his top playing condition.

The problem is the way he is playing. It continues to be horrible. He seems to be getting worse, and he wasn't great to begin with. He needs to show something this preseason.

how bout the fact that he was the slowest person in the arena and didn't husstle?

you only get tired if you try.

Re-watch the game. I'll pay you a beer for every time that Scal was the last guy to get back on defense. What went so bad about Scal's? His shots weren't falling, but they were good shots. He had a couple of stupid consecutive turnovers, but in a possession he previously had earned with a steal. My biggest hit on him was that he was a step late on the help defense in a play that Walker forced Young to the baseline and it ended with a 3 point play to Philly.

This is clearly overreacting. A couple of days ago LeBron went like 1pt, 2rebs, 1 ast against Toronto. It's the pre-season...

If there was a guy who one should be worried about regarding physical condition is Miles. He ran like an old man and his defensive slide was slower than mine.

Re: Scalabrine
« Reply #39 on: October 09, 2008, 03:47:41 PM »

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first scal bashing thread of the year  8)

Scal stinks.
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Re: Scalabrine
« Reply #40 on: October 09, 2008, 03:50:33 PM »

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Re: Scalabrine
« Reply #41 on: October 09, 2008, 03:56:18 PM »

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I don't get why people mention Scal's 'being in shape'. Did he look winded or tired? I haven't seen any evidence of his not being in playing condition. Just because he isn't chiseled doesn't mean he isn't in his top playing condition.

The problem is the way he is playing. It continues to be horrible. He seems to be getting worse, and he wasn't great to begin with. He needs to show something this preseason.

how bout the fact that he was the slowest person in the arena and didn't husstle?

you only get tired if you try.

Re-watch the game. I'll pay you a beer for every time that Scal was the last guy to get back on defense. What went so bad about Scal's? His shots weren't falling, but they were good shots. He had a couple of stupid consecutive turnovers, but in a possession he previously had earned with a steal. My biggest hit on him was that he was a step late on the help defense in a play that Walker forced Young to the baseline and it ended with a 3 point play to Philly.

This is clearly overreacting. A couple of days ago LeBron went like 1pt, 2rebs, 1 ast against Toronto. It's the pre-season...

If there was a guy who one should be worried about regarding physical condition is Miles. He ran like an old man and his defensive slide was slower than mine.

Its useless, some people just are unable to watch Scal and see the positives.  All they see are the missed shots, and his body, but ignore the evidence of his hustle, excellent positioning, and good defense in general.  Some people just have blind spots with certain players...in fact, just about all of us are.  It just so happens that more people have this blindspot with Scal, because of the way he looks, and the fact that his negatives are so exagerated, even if they are not effecting the team as negatively as some other players negatives.

Re: Scalabrine
« Reply #42 on: October 09, 2008, 03:57:51 PM »

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Scal has jowels, a gut and soft arms.
not in shape
You'd think he'd want to hang around in the nba at this point for the retirement package, 10 yrs=so much etc

Go run some sprints with him, and see who gets more tired first.  I guarantee you, if he were out of shape like some of you think, he would no longer be on an NBA roster.

Re: Scalabrine
« Reply #43 on: October 09, 2008, 04:12:35 PM »

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I don't mean out of shape an old fart sitting around.  I mean out of shape compared to how he should be to actually help the team as possibly the backup sf.  Seeing Posey leave if I was scal i'd come in cut ready to help defend rebound whatever.  He is going with the veteran presence  ???, good help defender, occassional 3 pt threat ?.
Sorry I've defended scal enough, every player has to improve every year.  Explain how he's improved since signing?

Re: Scalabrine
« Reply #44 on: October 09, 2008, 04:17:12 PM »

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I don't mean out of shape an old fart sitting around.  I mean out of shape compared to how he should be to actually help the team as possibly the backup sf.  Seeing Posey leave if I was scal i'd come in cut ready to help defend rebound whatever.  He is going with the veteran presence  ???, good help defender, occassional 3 pt threat ?.
Sorry I've defended scal enough, every player has to improve every year.  Explain how he's improved since signing?

My point is, by what scale are you saying he is out of shape?  Being "cut" and being in top NBA shape are completely different things.  Although there is often a correlation between them, they are not the same.  You can be cut and not in good shape, just like you can be in excellent shape, but still have a body like Scals.  That's just how some peoples bodies are.

For years now, people have been saying Scal has been in bad shape, and for years he has been hustling like crazy, being all over the court, and never showing the slightest amount of fatigue.  I also have yet to see any reduction in his exceptional lateral quickness.
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