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Re: WEEI Reporting Darius Miles to the Celtics
« Reply #105 on: August 23, 2008, 12:28:47 PM »

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LR/HR signing. I hope we can screw the Blazers over.

I hope so to. That way we won't feel so bad losing Brandon Roy in the '06 draft to trade for Telfair. I still dry heave thinking about that. Although, of course, we did move Lafrentz's contract in that deal.

I love the signing.





well roy right now is unable to walk haha wait till he recovers. he may just turn out like tony allen for all we know.

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Re: WEEI Reporting Darius Miles to the Celtics
« Reply #106 on: August 24, 2008, 11:42:54 AM »

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Question:  Tony Allen, Bill Walker and Darius Miles...   who breaks first?



Answer:   Trick question.  It's Ray Allen's ankles.   The answer we were looking for is Ray Allen's ankles.  Thanks for playing!



I think Perk's shoulder will go first.
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Re: WEEI Reporting Darius Miles to the Celtics
« Reply #107 on: August 24, 2008, 12:21:03 PM »

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I guess one good thing about this is that it keeps other teams from getting Miles. if the guy suddenly started playing awesome next to Kobe or Lebron or Duncan that could have been a problem. Now it may happen next to KG and that could be a problem for other teams. Now that I think about it this isn't aimed at replacing Posey this year. It's aimed at replacing Tony Allen this year, with Tony aiming to replace Posey, but it's really aimed at taking a shot at replacing Ray Allen in a year or two. Or PP. It's the pipeline. The Pats and Red Sox do it routinely, it's just that on a 12 man team every signing is supposed to be the next Jordan or something, when actually it's just not like that. It's also an anti injury signing. It's like when the Pats sign 12 defensive backs and 5 of them get hurt. Aren't you glad you signed so many of the same thing?

Re: WEEI Reporting Darius Miles to the Celtics
« Reply #108 on: August 24, 2008, 01:22:20 PM »

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Question:  Tony Allen, Bill Walker and Darius Miles...   who breaks first?



Answer:   Trick question.  It's Ray Allen's ankles.   The answer we were looking for is Ray Allen's ankles.  Thanks for playing!



I think Perk's shoulder will go first.

pierce's knee ;D

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Re: WEEI Reporting Darius Miles to the Celtics
« Reply #109 on: August 24, 2008, 06:13:01 PM »

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I like our bench better this season compared to our bench at the start of last season.  We lose Pollard (who did nothing)and Posey (big loss). We gain a more experienced bench in BBD and POWE, hopefully Pruitt brings something more this season, added Walker and Giddens (athletic energy), POB (needed size) and now Miles (???).  Maybe a more healthy TA who gets more PT.
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Re: WEEI Reporting Darius Miles to the Celtics
« Reply #110 on: August 24, 2008, 09:02:41 PM »

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If Miles can get back to pre-injury form then the Celtics get a long 6'9" defender who can contribute minutes.  Low risk signing with upside.  I like it, let's just hope his recovery goes smoothly.

Re: WEEI Reporting Darius Miles to the Celtics
« Reply #111 on: August 24, 2008, 10:07:32 PM »

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Re: WEEI Reporting Darius Miles to the Celtics
« Reply #112 on: August 25, 2008, 10:39:26 AM »

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I love unbridled optimism but unbridled optimism to the point of having a one way ticket down the rabbit hole to Wonderland gets to be a bit much.

I don't have a problem with the signing because it is a non guaranteed contract. But lets please come back to reality with what will be expected out of Darius Miles this year.

1.) Doctors don't lie and they definitely don't don't collude to make sure a malcontent player is effectively wiped off the books and can't come back to play basketball. Three separate doctors took a look at the microfracture injury that Miles, two of the doctors called it the worst microfracture injury they had ever seen in their careers.They concluded that for the patient's own good he should get a knee replacement and never play basketball again. God bless Darius Miles if he does come back and actually makes this team. Don't be surprised if he goes down at some point and is carted off the court in a stretcher.

2.) The fact that he has been out of competitive basketball for two years makes me seriously doubt that he could come back and be the same type of player and be able to put up similar numbers to what he has in the past. Now couple that with the fact that he has serious knee problems and the likelihood and is greater that he won't be the player he once was. How some of you can just see Miles' name and then just jump to the conclusion that he will be antwhere near the same player astounds me.

3.) I think the fact that Danny gave him a non-guaranteed contract speaks volumes for Danny's expectations as to the chances of Darius Miles making this team. Other players that have been given non-guaranteed contracts by Danny in the past haven't made the team. I see no reason to expect any different.

Re: WEEI Reporting Darius Miles to the Celtics
« Reply #113 on: August 25, 2008, 11:22:08 AM »

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I love unbridled optimism but unbridled optimism to the point of having a one way ticket down the rabbit hole to Wonderland gets to be a bit much.

I don't have a problem with the signing because it is a non guaranteed contract. But lets please come back to reality with what will be expected out of Darius Miles this year.

1.) Doctors don't lie and they definitely don't don't collude to make sure a malcontent player is effectively wiped off the books and can't come back to play basketball. Three separate doctors took a look at the microfracture injury that Miles, two of the doctors called it the worst microfracture injury they had ever seen in their careers.They concluded that for the patient's own good he should get a knee replacement and never play basketball again. God bless Darius Miles if he does come back and actually makes this team. Don't be surprised if he goes down at some point and is carted off the court in a stretcher.

2.) The fact that he has been out of competitive basketball for two years makes me seriously doubt that he could come back and be the same type of player and be able to put up similar numbers to what he has in the past. Now couple that with the fact that he has serious knee problems and the likelihood and is greater that he won't be the player he once was. How some of you can just see Miles' name and then just jump to the conclusion that he will be antwhere near the same player astounds me.

3.) I think the fact that Danny gave him a non-guaranteed contract speaks volumes for Danny's expectations as to the chances of Darius Miles making this team. Other players that have been given non-guaranteed contracts by Danny in the past haven't made the team. I see no reason to expect any different.

Also, even when Miles was playing, it's not like he was a superstar.  He was very inconsistent, and was a terrible shooter.  (Just thought I'd add that to the mix.)

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Re: WEEI Reporting Darius Miles to the Celtics
« Reply #114 on: August 25, 2008, 11:37:32 AM »

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1.) Doctors don't lie and they definitely don't don't collude to make sure a malcontent player is effectively wiped off the books and can't come back to play basketball. Three separate doctors took a look at the microfracture injury that Miles, two of the doctors called it the worst microfracture injury they had ever seen in their careers.They concluded that for the patient's own good he should get a knee replacement and never play basketball again.

  Is this true? I thought it was more like if he played he risked an injury that would require a knee replacement. Also, I don't think the doctors commented on him publicly, but what we heard was a characterization of the doctor's opinions by the GM of the team that will be on the hook for $18M if another team signs and plays Miles.

  Not that I'm optimistic about Miles or anything...

Re: WEEI Reporting Darius Miles to the Celtics
« Reply #115 on: August 25, 2008, 11:55:54 AM »

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I guess one good thing about this is that it keeps other teams from getting Miles. if the guy suddenly started playing awesome next to Kobe or Lebron or Duncan that could have been a problem. Now it may happen next to KG and that could be a problem for other teams. Now that I think about it this isn't aimed at replacing Posey this year. It's aimed at replacing Tony Allen this year, with Tony aiming to replace Posey, but it's really aimed at taking a shot at replacing Ray Allen in a year or two. Or PP. It's the pipeline. The Pats and Red Sox do it routinely, it's just that on a 12 man team every signing is supposed to be the next Jordan or something, when actually it's just not like that. It's also an anti injury signing. It's like when the Pats sign 12 defensive backs and 5 of them get hurt. Aren't you glad you signed so many of the same thing?

My thinking is we waited a while to sign this guy so I don't think he was drawing any interest from other teams. Still I like the signing because once training camp starts they will be able to tell how bad his injury is. So in that regard, it wouldn't surprise me to hear that he gets cut.

Doctors are going to tell him not to play on it. They are scared of getting sued if they told him that the knee was fine. I'm not saying he's not damaged goods but whats the risk of bringing him into training camp and see if he can make the team?

Re: WEEI Reporting Darius Miles to the Celtics
« Reply #116 on: August 25, 2008, 12:26:23 PM »

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I love unbridled optimism but unbridled optimism to the point of having a one way ticket down the rabbit hole to Wonderland gets to be a bit much.

I don't have a problem with the signing because it is a non guaranteed contract. But lets please come back to reality with what will be expected out of Darius Miles this year.

1.) Doctors don't lie and they definitely don't don't collude to make sure a malcontent player is effectively wiped off the books and can't come back to play basketball. Three separate doctors took a look at the microfracture injury that Miles, two of the doctors called it the worst microfracture injury they had ever seen in their careers.They concluded that for the patient's own good he should get a knee replacement and never play basketball again. God bless Darius Miles if he does come back and actually makes this team. Don't be surprised if he goes down at some point and is carted off the court in a stretcher.

2.) The fact that he has been out of competitive basketball for two years makes me seriously doubt that he could come back and be the same type of player and be able to put up similar numbers to what he has in the past. Now couple that with the fact that he has serious knee problems and the likelihood and is greater that he won't be the player he once was. How some of you can just see Miles' name and then just jump to the conclusion that he will be antwhere near the same player astounds me.

3.) I think the fact that Danny gave him a non-guaranteed contract speaks volumes for Danny's expectations as to the chances of Darius Miles making this team. Other players that have been given non-guaranteed contracts by Danny in the past haven't made the team. I see no reason to expect any different.

4.)Also, even when Miles was playing, it's not like he was a superstar.  He was very inconsistent, and was a terrible shooter.  (Just thought I'd add that to the mix.)
1. Doctors just like every one else can be wrong.
2. Being out of competitive basketball for this long should have lit a fire under him, he was always touted as the next big thing, now he knows he has to work to get there.
3. The non guaranteed contract alleviates all pressure. If he is bad we cut him, if he is good we can stay. His ceiling is a good 6th man, his floor is an empty roster spot (which is where we were before we signed him).
4. Miles wasn't a superstar when he was playing, but it's not like players have never gotten better past the age of 26. He could be a valuable bench player with us for part of the year and then explode onto the scene in the second half of the season. The C's don't really need a superstar at this point.
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Re: WEEI Reporting Darius Miles to the Celtics
« Reply #117 on: August 25, 2008, 12:42:32 PM »

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i'm concerned about our bench...losing posey was big, and danny did NOTHING to replace his skill set.

darius miles is a luxury...honestly, i'm expecting nothing from him because of his health and poor shooting ability.

keep mining, danny...i give you a near failing grade this offseason if this is all the better you could do following a championship season.  come next season we have no laurels to rest upon because the entire league could care less about last year's achievements...
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Re: WEEI Reporting Darius Miles to the Celtics
« Reply #118 on: August 25, 2008, 03:25:10 PM »

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I love unbridled optimism but unbridled optimism to the point of having a one way ticket down the rabbit hole to Wonderland gets to be a bit much.

I don't have a problem with the signing because it is a non guaranteed contract. But lets please come back to reality with what will be expected out of Darius Miles this year.

1.) Doctors don't lie and they definitely don't don't collude to make sure a malcontent player is effectively wiped off the books and can't come back to play basketball. Three separate doctors took a look at the microfracture injury that Miles, two of the doctors called it the worst microfracture injury they had ever seen in their careers.They concluded that for the patient's own good he should get a knee replacement and never play basketball again. God bless Darius Miles if he does come back and actually makes this team. Don't be surprised if he goes down at some point and is carted off the court in a stretcher.

2.) The fact that he has been out of competitive basketball for two years makes me seriously doubt that he could come back and be the same type of player and be able to put up similar numbers to what he has in the past. Now couple that with the fact that he has serious knee problems and the likelihood and is greater that he won't be the player he once was. How some of you can just see Miles' name and then just jump to the conclusion that he will be antwhere near the same player astounds me.

3.) I think the fact that Danny gave him a non-guaranteed contract speaks volumes for Danny's expectations as to the chances of Darius Miles making this team. Other players that have been given non-guaranteed contracts by Danny in the past haven't made the team. I see no reason to expect any different.

...agree 100 percent...Miles is by far the greatest unknown and largest risk for all 3 points listed above...

Re: WEEI Reporting Darius Miles to the Celtics
« Reply #119 on: August 25, 2008, 05:07:34 PM »

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Wow .... I was just looking at the voting on the front page ... the question being do you like the Miles signing?

440 people say yes, 58 say no, that 88.4% in favour. Bigger margin than I expected.