Celticsblog Fantasy Roster Review

[Edgar]

"lamar odom did have a bad finals. i do think the nba dpoy had something to do with that. along with the best team defense in the league by far. against the 3rd best defense last year in SA lamar put up 13/10 but against utah against boozer he put up 18/11 and utah is better defensively than phoenix and amare is a turnstile on defense. check www.82games.com for opp per for amare. you cant chalk that all up to pace. odom is a better defender than amare stoudamire.

parker is arguably a top 5 pg in this league with nash, cp3, deron, and billups. martin was one of the most efficient scorers in the league last year. superb shooter, athletic and gets to the line a ton."

A PM a received from an onlooker of this thread.

Boozer eat Odoms for breakfast
Gasol eats Bogut for dinner
Big man win championships


Parker is distracted since he married that latin angel.
And I will send a letter to Eva to ask her to keep him even more distracted.

[zerophase]

it's really hard to tell who's better right now. i say complete the rosters and put it into an nba simulation, best of 7.

[JSD]

"lamar odom did have a bad finals. i do think the nba dpoy had something to do with that. along with the best team defense in the league by far. against the 3rd best defense last year in SA lamar put up 13/10 but against utah against boozer he put up 18/11 and utah is better defensively than phoenix and amare is a turnstile on defense. check www.82games.com for opp per for amare. you cant chalk that all up to pace. odom is a better defender than amare stoudamire.

parker is arguably a top 5 pg in this league with nash, cp3, deron, and billups. martin was one of the most efficient scorers in the league last year. superb shooter, athletic and gets to the line a ton."

A PM a received from an onlooker of this thread.

Boozer eat Odoms for breakfast
Gasol eats Bogut for dinner
Big man win championships


Parker is distracted since he married that latin angel.
And I will send a letter to Eva to ask her to keep him even more distracted.

A letter huh? what would this letter say?

[Rondo2287]

Still think my team should get some love even though my bench is prtty darn thin at this point.

[Edgar]

"I put your team at the top of their division.  But they are not the best team in this league.
"

This team is one of the least flawed. I agree with Hobbs in Welcoming 3 teams in this discussion, The Nets, Blazers and Hornets.

No love for the Magics?    I'm curious what you (or anyone) think our flaws/weaknesses are... especially vs. the teams you listed.  (honest question i'm not trying to bait anyone... i just haven't seen any analysis of our team):

PG: Delonte West
SG: Allen IVerson
SF: Danny Granger / Matt Harpring
PF: Tim Duncan / Thaddeus Young
C: Brad Miller / Joakim Noah

(P.S. Keep in mind that we're *this close* to trading Delonte West for Eddy Curry and two 16th round picks )

youre ugly and your mammi dresses u funny   ( the best offensive line i could think right now )

  good one Gains

[wdleehi]

"I put your team at the top of their division.  But they are not the best team in this league.
"

This team is one of the least flawed. I agree with Hobbs in Welcoming 3 teams in this discussion, The Nets, Blazers and Hornets.

No love for the Magics?    I'm curious what you (or anyone) think our flaws/weaknesses are... especially vs. the teams you listed.  (honest question i'm not trying to bait anyone... i just haven't seen any analysis of our team):

PG: Delonte West
SG: Allen IVerson
SF: Danny Granger / Matt Harpring
PF: Tim Duncan / Thaddeus Young
C: Brad Miller / Joakim Noah

(P.S. Keep in mind that we're *this close* to trading Delonte West for Eddy Curry and two 16th round picks )

I really like your team except for AI.  I think you would be better off with larger SG.  (especially when you look at he size of some of the SGs you would have to face in the playoffs)  And I don't trust AI to involve Duncan enough, and Duncan is the player on your team that can deliver a title. 

[JSD]

"I put your team at the top of their division.  But they are not the best team in this league.
"

This team is one of the least flawed. I agree with Hobbs in Welcoming 3 teams in this discussion, The Nets, Blazers and Hornets.

No love for the Magics?    I'm curious what you (or anyone) think our flaws/weaknesses are... especially vs. the teams you listed.  (honest question i'm not trying to bait anyone... i just haven't seen any analysis of our team):

PG: Delonte West
SG: Allen IVerson
SF: Danny Granger / Matt Harpring
PF: Tim Duncan / Thaddeus Young
C: Brad Miller / Joakim Noah

(P.S. Keep in mind that we're *this close* to trading Delonte West for Eddy Curry and two 16th round picks )

youre ugly and your mammi dresses u funny  ( the best offensive line i could think right now )

  good one Gains

Yes Nice Gaines ECF.

Edgar, you would write these insults to Eva and expect her to help you distract Parker? Haha oh man

[Edgar]

"I put your team at the top of their division.  But they are not the best team in this league.
"

This team is one of the least flawed. I agree with Hobbs in Welcoming 3 teams in this discussion, The Nets, Blazers and Hornets.

No love for the Magics?    I'm curious what you (or anyone) think our flaws/weaknesses are... especially vs. the teams you listed.  (honest question i'm not trying to bait anyone... i just haven't seen any analysis of our team):

PG: Delonte West
SG: Allen IVerson
SF: Danny Granger / Matt Harpring
PF: Tim Duncan / Thaddeus Young
C: Brad Miller / Joakim Noah

(P.S. Keep in mind that we're *this close* to trading Delonte West for Eddy Curry and two 16th round picks )

youre ugly and your mammi dresses u funny  ( the best offensive line i could think right now )

  good one Gains

Yes Nice Gaines ECF.

Edgar, you would write these insults to Eva and expect her to help you distract Parker? Haha oh man

Actually that one was for gains
and playing with my feelings with delonte

For eva I have better lines..

[Steve Weinman]

Houston VS. Portland (WCF)

Scoring Type: Boxing rounds:


Bogut (10) > Horford (9) - The numbers are pretty close with Bogut having an edge in every statistical category last season. Bogut has a track record of progress and improved every year in this league. Horford is an undersized C and will eventually log the majority of his minutes at the 4 spot.

Odom (8 ) < Amare (10) - Amare is a monster, nothing more to add here.


Wallace(10) > Gay (9) - The numbers are almost identical offensively with Wallace a superior defensive player at this point in his career.

Kevin Martin (9) < Iguodala (10) - Martin is a better shooter and offensive player, while A.I individual defense and passing skills earn him a slight nod.

Tony Parker (10) - TJ Ford (8 )- Parker is one of the best scoring PG's in the league and annually posts one of the highest FG% in the NBA. Ford is a good play maker who will be on his third team in 5 years.

Bench (10) > (8 ) - Although we still have a ways to go, experience and talent heavily favor Houston at this point in the draft.


Final Score:

Rockets (57) > Blazers (54)

Blazers are better.  They have more players putting up similar stats but on winning (playoff) teams. 


Though a deciding factor can be healthy.   Ford (back) and Wallace (concussions) could both be out of this league really fast. 

You are ignoring the experience and talent coming off of my bench. ATl wasn't even .500 last season and Ford barely played so the "playoff team" in this comparison is overrated.

But look at some of your starters.  Wallace - lotto.  Bogut - lotto.  Martin - lotto.  Thomas - lotto.  Ridnour - lotto.  And how many of them were the best player on their team? 

Talent is talent and experience is experience.

Your logic is flawed:

Peirce in 07 - Lotto
KG in 07 - Lotto
Ray Allen in 07 - Lotto

And all had lead their teams to conference finals in the past.  All still were in their prime.  All three of those players are better then all the players on your team (Parker and Ray is close)



Which one of your lotto guys can say that? 




Also, good luck convincing Shaq to come off the bench.

Two of my 5 starters have been to the Finals, one has 3 rings. Bogut and Martin have both been key contributors on playoff teams and Gerald Wallace has appeared in 3 separate playoff years (granted in a more limited role).

Historically, the East was never weaker then in "01" and "02" when Allen and Peirce went to the ECF respectively. And Garnett only made it past the 1st round of the playoffs 1 time before going green

so again, your logic is flawed.

Stop being lazy, do some research and crunch some numbers.

Just a thought: Might be beneficial from a credibility standpoint to lay off some of the rhetoric on this.  Sure, you didn't say anything inaccurate here, but Bogut played for a 40-win team that got wiped out of the first round of the playoffs and two teams that didn't crack 30 wins in the two years after that.  Gerald Wallace has averaged 3.5 minutes per game for his 15-game playoff career -- and he has 25 playoff DNPs to match those 15 playoff games played.  These references aren't helping your case regarding your team and seem to only lend to further scrutiny of what might be more viable points on your part.

Further, I'm not exactly sure why Bogut gets the edge over Al Horford, one of the game's most promising young bigs on both ends of the floor.

-sw

[JSD]

Further, I'm not exactly sure why Bogut gets the edge over Al Horford, one of the game's most promising young bigs on both ends of the floor.

Bogut is better in every statistical category and He's 23. How does he not get the nod?

[Rondo2287]

Haha as the comments blasting wallace go ignored. 

[fugazzi24]

I am not sure why everyone sleeps on the Bobcats.

Yao Ming - Is a top 3 center in the league and has to be doubled at all times.

Deron Williams - Top 2 point guard and is showing he might be the best during olympics.

Ben Gordon- Lights out jump shooter you cannot double Yao off him.

Z. Randolph - Great 17 ft jumper and rebounder, will spread floor for Yao.

Marvin Willaims- Athletic 3 man plays solid D, Good Mid-range game.

Love, Stevenson, Gasol - All tough players, the Love to Williams connection could be pure magic ont he fast break. 

[wdleehi]

I am not sure why everyone sleeps on the Bobcats.

Yao Ming - Is a top 3 center in the league and has to be doubled at all times.

Deron Williams - Top 2 point guard and is showing he might be the best during olympics.

Ben Gordon- Lights out jump shooter you cannot double Yao off him.

Z. Randolph - Great 17 ft jumper and rebounder, will spread floor for Yao.

Marvin Willaims- Athletic 3 man plays solid D, Good Mid-range game.

Love, Stevenson, Gasol - All tough players, the Love to Williams connection could be pure magic ont he fast break. 

get rid of Randolf, and I think people will like your team even better. 


They also had the poor luck of being in the same division as Duncan. 




Also, I would start Stevenson over Gordon.  Gordon is a good 6th man combo guard. 

[Gainesville Celtic]

"I put your team at the top of their division.  But they are not the best team in this league.
"

This team is one of the least flawed. I agree with Hobbs in Welcoming 3 teams in this discussion, The Nets, Blazers and Hornets.

No love for the Magics?    I'm curious what you (or anyone) think our flaws/weaknesses are... especially vs. the teams you listed.  (honest question i'm not trying to bait anyone... i just haven't seen any analysis of our team):

PG: Delonte West
SG: Allen IVerson
SF: Danny Granger / Matt Harpring
PF: Tim Duncan / Thaddeus Young
C: Brad Miller / Joakim Noah

(P.S. Keep in mind that we're *this close* to trading Delonte West for Eddy Curry and two 16th round picks )

I really like your team except for AI.  I think you would be better off with larger SG.  (especially when you look at he size of some of the SGs you would have to face in the playoffs)  And I don't trust AI to involve Duncan enough, and Duncan is the player on your team that can deliver a title. 

Well FWIW, here's my thinking....

For the most part Delonte and AI are gonna switch up (Delonte PG on offense, AI PG on D), that's an imperfect solution, but the one we have right now.  We added Harpring exactly to deal with guys like Maggette and Vince Carter.   In a pinch, if we're getting beat up by a big SG, we'll move AI to PG, put in Harpring or Thad Young and ask them + Granger to lock down the wings....

Delonte showed in the semifinals vs. Boston, while not the worlds best PG, he works well with star players and knows when to take the shot and when to pass.  So we're simplfying the game for him to allow Iverson to focus on scoring and secondary passing --- and Tommy's gonna be on AI and Delonte to RUN RUN RUN with Granger and Young.

As far as Iverson goes..... Iverson is who we think he is.... a warrior.  But AI also knows that this is his last shot for a ring after the attempt in Denver fell apart.  And Hubie will get him to see that the team has the best shot to win if he's involving other players --- something he does quite well btw, in addition to volume scoring.  Everyone said he couldn't play with Melo and they've worked well togehter and have gotten others involved in DEN (their problem was they played no defense as a team).

Iverson will be this year's Pierce in the playoffs, he won't change his stripes, but he'll alter their hue to get that ring.  Like Pierce he's not played with a player of Duncan's caliber and took far inferior teams much further.

And we've still got a few picks/trades we're working on.... thanks for the critique.

[Edgar]

"I put your team at the top of their division.  But they are not the best team in this league.
"

This team is one of the least flawed. I agree with Hobbs in Welcoming 3 teams in this discussion, The Nets, Blazers and Hornets.

No love for the Magics?    I'm curious what you (or anyone) think our flaws/weaknesses are... especially vs. the teams you listed.  (honest question i'm not trying to bait anyone... i just haven't seen any analysis of our team):

PG: Delonte West
SG: Allen IVerson
SF: Danny Granger / Matt Harpring
PF: Tim Duncan / Thaddeus Young
C: Brad Miller / Joakim Noah

(P.S. Keep in mind that we're *this close* to trading Delonte West for Eddy Curry and two 16th round picks )

I really like your team except for AI.  I think you would be better off with larger SG.  (especially when you look at he size of some of the SGs you would have to face in the playoffs)  And I don't trust AI to involve Duncan enough, and Duncan is the player on your team that can deliver a title. 

Well FWIW, here's my thinking....

For the most part Delonte and AI are gonna switch up (Delonte PG on offense, AI PG on D), that's an imperfect solution, but the one we have right now.  We added Harpring exactly to deal with guys like Maggette and Vince Carter.   In a pinch, if we're getting beat up by a big SG, we'll move AI to PG, put in Harpring or Thad Young and ask them + Granger to lock down the wings....

Delonte showed in the semifinals vs. Boston, while not the worlds best PG, he works well with star players and knows when to take the shot and when to pass.  So we're simplfying the game for him to allow Iverson to focus on scoring and secondary passing --- and Tommy's gonna be on AI and Delonte to RUN RUN RUN with Granger and Young.

As far as Iverson goes..... Iverson is who we think he is.... a warrior.  But AI also knows that this is his last shot for a ring after the attempt in Denver fell apart.  And Hubie will get him to see that the team has the best shot to win if he's involving other players --- something he does quite well btw, in addition to volume scoring.  Everyone said he couldn't play with Melo and they've worked well togehter and have gotten others involved in DEN (their problem was they played no defense as a team).

Iverson will be this year's Pierce in the playoffs, he won't change his stripes, but he'll alter their hue to get that ring.  Like Pierce he's not played with a player of Duncan's caliber and took far inferior teams much further.

And we've still got a few picks/trades we're working on.... thanks for the critique.

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get rid of delonte
trade with edgar