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Re: Celticsblog Fantasy Roster Review
« Reply #180 on: August 11, 2008, 10:04:43 PM »

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I'd have to concede that right now the Nets are #1 in the East and the league.

Portland is going to run their old bones out of the gym. ;)

Portland is kind of young to talk deep playoffs is it not? Team of the future, not now IMO.

Re: Celticsblog Fantasy Roster Review
« Reply #181 on: August 11, 2008, 10:05:16 PM »

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C – Andrew Bogut
PF – Lamar Odom
SF – Gerald Wallace
SG – Kevin Martin
PG – Tony Parker

Bench:
C  - Shaquille O’neal
PF – Tyrus Thomas
SG – Michael Finley

Well here we are so far, incomplete like most teams but the roster is filling out pretty nicely with young veterans, Finals MVP running the point and championship experience coming off the bench.

I'm not the biggest fan of Odom playing the 4 but looking back to last season and the NBA playoffs where he held  his own against Western Conference foe, I'm becoming comfortable with it.

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Gasol and Boozer eats Bogut and Odom for breakfast
And I am only getting strong in the shorters....

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Re: Celticsblog Fantasy Roster Review
« Reply #182 on: August 11, 2008, 10:06:10 PM »

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After the first preseason ranking had the Orlando Magic as winning the Southeast division, Wizards' GM KCatthestripe had this to say:

" That's probably fair. I mean they have Tim Duncan right? AND Allen Iverson? To heck with this. Brad MILLER? Man, that's just unnecessary. I quit, we should all just go home. Pack it up, seasons over.

What? Whats that you say? It's NOT 2001? It's 2008? And Duncan is old? 32? and in the decline of his career? Iverson is 33? And is playing 2 guard? Brad Miller is NOT 32! Really? And they drafted that guy with the funny hair from Florida who shoots free throws like his daddy putting backspin on a tennis ball? And that guy who used to be from Boston that always talked out of the side of his mouth? And a guy named 'Thaddeus"? There are people who aren't civil war re-anactors named Thaddeus? Get out of town?

And you say we have Shawn Marion And Andrei Kirelenko, two of the most versitle defenders in the league? Two guys who like to get out and run? And the best two guard prospect not named "Roy"? And a young, athletic big, with good post moves, interior passing ability and averaged a block and a half in RESERVE minutes last year? Get out of town, somebody smart drafted him. And we've got a scoring point guard who can get out and lead the break and is adept at driving to the hoop and dishing out? Wait, now you're telling me we have a guy named JR, and nobody's shot him? And we have that kid from Yonkers who had the TV show? Plus a guy who scored 48 points that one time, that's pretty cool.

So I guess it is fair to say that the Orlando Magic are better than us, even though they probably keep their AARP cards in their gym lockers. Did I mention they have a guy named Thaddeus?

So I guess that's fair.

ORLANDO -- The state's AARP issued a statement today after lunacy-filled comments by KCatthestripe, GM of the Washingotn Wizards.

"We don't know if KCatthestripe realizes this or not, but AARP stands for American Association of RETIRED People.  So since all of the Orlando Magics are still in the NBA, they're clearly not retired.  Furthermore we're troubled that rather than extoll the virtues of their own team, KCatthestripe resorted to making fun of the Magic's core for being so-called 'old'.  We have enough age discrimination to deal with without 32-year olds being called "old"."

When reached for comment about the age of his team Gainesville Celtic, the architect of the Orlando Magics, said "didn't they say that about the last team that won the NBA title? Get real folks.  Talent and heart wins titles.  Our team is anchored by Tim Duncan and his 4 NBA rings --- one more and you might get an NBA Title Knuckle-Sandwich fool!  And his frontcourt mate, the "funny-haired" Joakim Noah oh yeah he has 2 NCAA titles."

"And show me a player hungrier for an ring in this league that Mr. Iverson.  He's less than a year older than the guy who he took over that spot from, Mr. Kevin Garnett.  And look at AI's numbers they're barely going down."

"Don't get me wrong, the Wiz have a nice young team, but we're building our team to win THIS YEAR.  The people on Orlando and Gainesville are hungry for another winner."  Before ending the call with his familiar if odd "Ubuntu, Y'all" signoff, Gainesville Celtic offered this positional breakdown.

Ivereson vs. Felton -- No contest, AI can stay with Felton and will give him fits on the defensvie end disrupting Washington's offense.

West vs. Stuckey -- Stuckey might be the Flavor of the Month, but is he really that much better than Delonte West, Randy Foye or even a newbie like Jerryd Bayless?   Sure, the kid's gonna be good but C'mon.  6 games vs. the Celtics in the ECF doesn't make you a star.

Granger vs. Marion  --- here's where it gets dicey for the Wiz.... Marion can't guard Duncan so he faces off versus a 24 year old, pre-Steve Nash, version of himself.  Don't believ me?  check it out:  http://tinyurl.com/6bkxdk

Duncan vs. Kirilenko --- AK47 might be able to bother Duncan a little with his quickness, but otherwise a slaughter.  Kirilenko can't create his own shot and won't get putbacks with Duncan boxing him out.

Miller vs. Blatche --- This is where Hubie Brown earns his keep.  Against most teams we'll start Noah, but versus teams like WAS we'll probably throw Brad Miller against a make-believe Center like Blatche. 

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Re: Celticsblog Fantasy Roster Review
« Reply #183 on: August 11, 2008, 10:08:02 PM »

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I'd have to concede that right now the Nets are #1 in the East and the league.

Portland is going to run their old bones out of the gym. ;)

Portland is kind of young to talk deep playoffs is it not? Team of the future, not now IMO.

I agree. Dominate the regular season but come playoff time they'll lose in the WCF to either the Rockets or Warriors. Lebron will be tough to beat in the 2nd round, too.
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« Reply #184 on: August 11, 2008, 10:10:10 PM »

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I'd have to concede that right now the Nets are #1 in the East and the league.

Portland is going to run their old bones out of the gym. ;)

Portland is kind of young to talk deep playoffs is it not? Team of the future, not now IMO.

I agree. Dominate the regular season but come playoff time they'll lose in the WCF to either the Rockets or Warriors. Lebron will be tough to beat in the 2nd round, too.

Yes, any team with Lebron is in the conversation.

Re: Celticsblog Fantasy Roster Review
« Reply #185 on: August 11, 2008, 10:12:11 PM »

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C – Andrew Bogut
PF – Lamar Odom
SF – Gerald Wallace
SG – Kevin Martin
PG – Tony Parker

Bench:
C  - Shaquille O’neal
PF – Tyrus Thomas
SG – Michael Finley

Well here we are so far, incomplete like most teams but the roster is filling out pretty nicely with young veterans, Finals MVP running the point and championship experience coming off the bench.

I'm not the biggest fan of Odom playing the 4 but looking back to last season and the NBA playoffs where he held  his own against Western Conference foe, I'm becoming comfortable with it.

 Feedback?

Gasol and Boozer eats Bogut and Odom for breakfast
And I am only getting strong in the shorters....

BTW Curry is available

What about Big daddy coming off the bench? ;D

Re: Celticsblog Fantasy Roster Review
« Reply #186 on: August 11, 2008, 10:13:33 PM »

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I'd have to concede that right now the Nets are #1 in the East and the league.

Portland is going to run their old bones out of the gym. ;)

Portland is kind of young to talk deep playoffs is it not? Team of the future, not now IMO.

I agree. Dominate the regular season but come playoff time they'll lose in the WCF to either the Rockets or Warriors. Lebron will be tough to beat in the 2nd round, too.

I don't buy it.  I'm fairly skeptical about the "you can't win in the playoffs unless you've won in the playoffs before" argument.  Elite talent, coupled with strong defense, wins.  I mean, most of the Lakers lacked playoff experience before this year.  Same thing with the Hornets.  Or even the Celtics (look up KG's, Ray's, and even Paul's playoff record some time).

Experience might tip a series if it's close in terms of talent, but i think a team of elite players would win in the playoffs, regardless of their age.  I think it would be close between the Blazers and Rockets, and close between the winner of that series and the Nets.  Really, though, I don't see any other team touching those three, barring something major happening here.

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Re: Celticsblog Fantasy Roster Review
« Reply #187 on: August 11, 2008, 10:29:33 PM »

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"Elite talent, coupled with strong defense, wins."

I want to focus on this because I think it is missing the word team.

Elite talent and a cohesive team defense wins.

The problem is strong team defense takes a couple years to develop. The Celtics had Veterans that bought in to the system  because they were at that point in their career where they could put aside individual success for the better of the team. A lot of players are "me first" to start. At least thats the NBA trend over the last 25 years

Celtics handed off to Detriot to Chicago to LA To SA with Detriot, Miami and the Celtics veteran teams that have been able to put a year together with veterans playing together.

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« Reply #188 on: August 11, 2008, 10:31:36 PM »

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But Don't get me wrong overall I agree.  It just usually takes time for young players to humble.

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« Reply #189 on: August 11, 2008, 10:33:32 PM »

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Re: Celticsblog Fantasy Roster Review
« Reply #190 on: August 11, 2008, 10:36:29 PM »

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You know Roy... I'm starting to wonder about this assumed dominance I awarded your team...  the more I think about it, the more I see 3-4 starters that like to shoot, and 3 that as of this year will be "the guy" on their respective teams.  They're also young and unlikely to willing sacrifice the way KG-PP-Ray did this year.  Ray easily transitioned into a 3rd option because his greatest strength fit perfectly with the other two and as a contingency.  I have to assume Amare is your go to guy, with Gay being the lead dog on the perimeter?  But Iguodala was clear about wanting to be the alpha and TJ Ford has never been too afraid of shooting.  Horford is also growing into himself and based on last year's playoffs is starting to get awfully confident, dare I say even cocky.

It's going to be an interesting juggle for you... there's no denying the massive talent, but how will they play together... that is the question I pose to you.


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« Reply #191 on: August 11, 2008, 10:37:22 PM »

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mike bibby
raja bell
richard jefferson
paul millsap
elton brand

bibby is a solid pg; he can pass and create for himself. bell is an all defense 2nd team player and can shoot the 3 very well. jefferson is a good scorer- he slashes and shoots well. millsap, granted the weakest of the starting line up, played well on the jazz for limited minutes and is a decent rebounder with good potential. he had some nice career nights the previous season. and well brand is brand. the franchise man. the, "you got branded" stamper. he can do it all. plus with this small lineup, the team can run, run, run, and run some more.

what are your thoughts? obviously i need a bench. scoring seems pretty taken care of. more defensive minded players wouldn't hurt.

i have 2 picks in the 7th so i'm going to build my bench there. i know already who i'm targeting. in my opinion, another steal if he falls that far.

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Re: Celticsblog Fantasy Roster Review
« Reply #192 on: August 11, 2008, 10:38:32 PM »

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mike bibby
raja bell
richard jefferson
paul millsap
elton brand

bibby is a solid pg; he can pass and create for himself. bell is an all defense 2nd team player and can shoot the 3 very well. jefferson is a good scorer- he slashes and shoots well. millsap, granted the weakest of the starting line up, played well on the jazz for limited minutes and is a decent rebounder with good potential. he had some nice career nights the previous season. and well brand is brand. the franchise man. the, "you got branded" stamper. he can do it all. plus with this small lineup, the team can run, run, run, and run some more.

what are your thoughts? obviously i need a bench. scoring seems pretty taken care of. more defensive minded players wouldn't hurt.

i have 2 picks in the 7th so i'm going to build my bench there. i know already who i'm targeting. in my opinion, another steal if he falls that far.

i get no love at all guys?

you need another big

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Re: Celticsblog Fantasy Roster Review
« Reply #193 on: August 11, 2008, 10:43:28 PM »

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mike bibby
raja bell
richard jefferson
paul millsap
elton brand

bibby is a solid pg; he can pass and create for himself. bell is an all defense 2nd team player and can shoot the 3 very well. jefferson is a good scorer- he slashes and shoots well. millsap, granted the weakest of the starting line up, played well on the jazz for limited minutes and is a decent rebounder with good potential. he had some nice career nights the previous season. and well brand is brand. the franchise man. the, "you got branded" stamper. he can do it all. plus with this small lineup, the team can run, run, run, and run some more.

what are your thoughts? obviously i need a bench. scoring seems pretty taken care of. more defensive minded players wouldn't hurt.

i have 2 picks in the 7th so i'm going to build my bench there. i know already who i'm targeting. in my opinion, another steal if he falls that far.

i get no love at all guys?

you need another big

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Re: Celticsblog Fantasy Roster Review
« Reply #194 on: August 11, 2008, 10:44:19 PM »

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You know Roy... I'm starting to wonder about this assumed dominance I awarded your team...  the more I think about it, the more I see 3-4 starters that like to shoot, and 3 that as of this year will be "the guy" on their respective teams.  They're also young and unlikely to willing sacrifice the way KG-PP-Ray did this year.  Ray easily transitioned into a 3rd option because his greatest strength fit perfectly with the other two and as a contingency.  I have to assume Amare is your go to guy, with Gay being the lead dog on the perimeter?  But Iguodala was clear about wanting to be the alpha and TJ Ford has never been too afraid of shooting.  Horford is also growing into himself and based on last year's playoffs is starting to get awfully confident, dare I say even cocky.

It's going to be an interesting juggle for you... there's no denying the massive talent, but how will they play together... that is the question I pose to you.

Rudy Gay has shown a willingness to defer to others; in fact, the most oft-repeated criticism of him in college was that he *wasn't* an alpha-dog.  Iggy has played in a system where he's deferred to teammates his entire career, as has Amare.  Neither has been a major locker room problem in that regard (although there are other issues with Amare's attitude from time to time).  Horford is used to being overshadowed, and is a "quiet leader" type, as is Ford.

I drafted this team as much on "fit" and attitude as I did in terms of talent (thus, why I took Gay over several more talented players, including Beasley.)  Amare is the *only* guy who has been any sort of a problem at any stage of his career, and I don't have any major concerns with that.  The rest of the guys have all shown themselves to be team-first.

Plus, come on, my coach is Norman Dale.  If he can't get these guys to buy into an "all for one" attitude, there's no hope for the game.

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