Celticsblog Fantasy Roster Review

[wdleehi]

ill definitely take some critiques on my Bucks squad

pg-kirk hinrich(27)
sg-ricky davis(28)
sf-brandon rush(23)
pf-josh smith(22)
c -marcus camby(34)

bench: marreese speights(21)

my own critique that i see thus far is unfortunately a team of 2nd and 3rd bananas at best. unfortunately couldnt get in early enough to draft a star and as such leadership is an issue. however i like the way the defense is shaping up with camby and josh protecting the rim and hinrich and rush on the perimeter as solid defenders. i think speights projects as the next solid post big man. hes got moves in the post. he can hit the midrange shot and can rebound and block a shot. great summer league to begin his career. think he has a bright future.

wow...no comments nor advice for my Bucks. do we scare everyone that much or do we need that much work it takes too long to be discussed?? lol

My take... your two primary scorers are both jumpshooters with happy trigger fingers that don't shoot for a high percentage.  You have Smith playing out of position and I don't see anyone that is going to get Rush, Smith, or Camby the ball to score.  You have two great help defenders inside, but still a lack of size or bulk, except for your rookie 6th man.  I think the team needs work...

thanks BT for the critique. for smith i see him playing time at both forward spots. as for him playing out of position. last year he almost exclusively played the 4 in real life so its not nearly as out of position as one might think. plus by him manning minutes at the 4 he can use his athleticism to create certain mismatches at times on offense. he gave boston fits in the series doing this. not to mention by playing some pf he can also play closer to the rim on defense where he can help more with his shot-blocking then he can when hes on the perimeter guarding 3s. but as i said while i will start him at the 4, i plan to play him at BOTH forward spots.

as for hinrich i think you might be underestimating his pg abilities especially in the halfcourt with pick n pop and pick n rolls. hinrichs a smart pg. he knows who to get the ball to and he knows how to make himself a weapon on offense and is as comofrtable playing with the ball as he is off of it. but i do plan to draft another pg to augment the things he can do.

and i agree about needing at least one more big.

TP and thanks for your thoughts.

I know Smith technically played the 4 last year, but that was in a strange, undersized and athletic lineup... if that's the style you're going for, then it would work.  I don't necessarily know if that is a style you do by choice though... more by necessity. 

Hinrich is just coming off a miserable year... maybe he can return to form, maybe not.  I'm also just not a huge fan of Ricky Davis.

But if you like and believe in your team, that is the most important thing.

Honestly, I see a lotto team.  You have some weakside shot blockers.  No real go to guy.  Small and athletic bigs, but a PG that is a halfcourt PG. 

[bucknersrevenge]

ill definitely take some critiques on my Bucks squad

pg-kirk hinrich(27)
sg-ricky davis(28)
sf-brandon rush(23)
pf-josh smith(22)
c -marcus camby(34)

bench: marreese speights(21)

my own critique that i see thus far is unfortunately a team of 2nd and 3rd bananas at best. unfortunately couldnt get in early enough to draft a star and as such leadership is an issue. however i like the way the defense is shaping up with camby and josh protecting the rim and hinrich and rush on the perimeter as solid defenders. i think speights projects as the next solid post big man. hes got moves in the post. he can hit the midrange shot and can rebound and block a shot. great summer league to begin his career. think he has a bright future.

wow...no comments nor advice for my Bucks. do we scare everyone that much or do we need that much work it takes too long to be discussed?? lol

My take... your two primary scorers are both jumpshooters with happy trigger fingers that don't shoot for a high percentage.  You have Smith playing out of position and I don't see anyone that is going to get Rush, Smith, or Camby the ball to score.  You have two great help defenders inside, but still a lack of size or bulk, except for your rookie 6th man.  I think the team needs work...

thanks BT for the critique. for smith i see him playing time at both forward spots. as for him playing out of position. last year he almost exclusively played the 4 in real life so its not nearly as out of position as one might think. plus by him manning minutes at the 4 he can use his athleticism to create certain mismatches at times on offense. he gave boston fits in the series doing this. not to mention by playing some pf he can also play closer to the rim on defense where he can help more with his shot-blocking then he can when hes on the perimeter guarding 3s. but as i said while i will start him at the 4, i plan to play him at BOTH forward spots.

as for hinrich i think you might be underestimating his pg abilities especially in the halfcourt with pick n pop and pick n rolls. hinrichs a smart pg. he knows who to get the ball to and he knows how to make himself a weapon on offense and is as comofrtable playing with the ball as he is off of it. but i do plan to draft another pg to augment the things he can do.

and i agree about needing at least one more big.

TP and thanks for your thoughts.

I think speights could've waiting 2 more rounds. Ricky Davis is a lot like a pot of gold; if you could only reach him there is no telling what you could accomplish. The problem is that much like a fictional pot of gold, no one has ever been able to reach Ricky Davis and turn him into a team player.

thats true. i got put in a tough spot that cost me my ability to draft a more go to guy than him and then made a trade that cost me the guy i wanted ahead of him. despite the fact that ive been a davis fan since his tenure in boston. maybe speights couldve but when i pick came around i surveyed the board and just thought this kid showed a lot of promise in the summer league. cliff ray would like this kid.

[Gainesville Celtic]

ill definitely take some critiques on my Bucks squad

pg-kirk hinrich(27)
sg-ricky davis(28)
sf-brandon rush(23)
pf-josh smith(22)
c -marcus camby(34)

bench: marreese speights(21)

my own critique that i see thus far is unfortunately a team of 2nd and 3rd bananas at best. unfortunately couldnt get in early enough to draft a star and as such leadership is an issue. however i like the way the defense is shaping up with camby and josh protecting the rim and hinrich and rush on the perimeter as solid defenders. i think speights projects as the next solid post big man. hes got moves in the post. he can hit the midrange shot and can rebound and block a shot. great summer league to begin his career. think he has a bright future.

I think speights could've waiting 2 more rounds. Ricky Davis is a lot like a pot of gold; if you could only reach him there is no telling what you could accomplish. The problem is that much like a fictional pot of gold, no one has ever been able to reach Ricky Davis and turn him into a team player.

thats true. i got put in a tough spot that cost me my ability to draft a more go to guy than him and then made a trade that cost me the guy i wanted ahead of him. despite the fact that ive been a davis fan since his tenure in boston. maybe speights couldve but when i pick came around i surveyed the board and just thought this kid showed a lot of promise in the summer league. cliff ray would like this kid.

probably....Too bad i hired Mr. Ray as big man coach the first or 2nd day...

[Evantime34]

Bucks, if you are going to play Smith at the four you need more of a fast break pg than Kirk. My advice would be to get a good defensive four move Smith to the 5, move Kirk to the two and get a good defensive point. Then you have one of the best defenses in the league.

Only one person commented on my team, what do people think? I think at this point I have to compete for the West elite. I have vets at every position and young players who will back up and bring energy.

After realizing that my biggest division competition is the Clippers, I have decided my team is coming out to Aenima by Tool. Great pump up song, and it's about LA being swallowed by the sea ;-).

[bucknersrevenge]

ill definitely take some critiques on my Bucks squad

pg-kirk hinrich(27)
sg-ricky davis(28)
sf-brandon rush(23)
pf-josh smith(22)
c -marcus camby(34)

bench: marreese speights(21)

my own critique that i see thus far is unfortunately a team of 2nd and 3rd bananas at best. unfortunately couldnt get in early enough to draft a star and as such leadership is an issue. however i like the way the defense is shaping up with camby and josh protecting the rim and hinrich and rush on the perimeter as solid defenders. i think speights projects as the next solid post big man. hes got moves in the post. he can hit the midrange shot and can rebound and block a shot. great summer league to begin his career. think he has a bright future.

wow...no comments nor advice for my Bucks. do we scare everyone that much or do we need that much work it takes too long to be discussed?? lol

My take... your two primary scorers are both jumpshooters with happy trigger fingers that don't shoot for a high percentage.  You have Smith playing out of position and I don't see anyone that is going to get Rush, Smith, or Camby the ball to score.  You have two great help defenders inside, but still a lack of size or bulk, except for your rookie 6th man.  I think the team needs work...

thanks BT for the critique. for smith i see him playing time at both forward spots. as for him playing out of position. last year he almost exclusively played the 4 in real life so its not nearly as out of position as one might think. plus by him manning minutes at the 4 he can use his athleticism to create certain mismatches at times on offense. he gave boston fits in the series doing this. not to mention by playing some pf he can also play closer to the rim on defense where he can help more with his shot-blocking then he can when hes on the perimeter guarding 3s. but as i said while i will start him at the 4, i plan to play him at BOTH forward spots.

as for hinrich i think you might be underestimating his pg abilities especially in the halfcourt with pick n pop and pick n rolls. hinrichs a smart pg. he knows who to get the ball to and he knows how to make himself a weapon on offense and is as comofrtable playing with the ball as he is off of it. but i do plan to draft another pg to augment the things he can do.

and i agree about needing at least one more big.

TP and thanks for your thoughts.

I know Smith technically played the 4 last year, but that was in a strange, undersized and athletic lineup... if that's the style you're going for, then it would work.  I don't necessarily know if that is a style you do by choice though... more by necessity. 

Hinrich is just coming off a miserable year... maybe he can return to form, maybe not.  I'm also just not a huge fan of Ricky Davis.

But if you like and believe in your team, that is the most important thing.

it was but if you check his numbers the last couple of years he was more effective from an offensive defensive standpoint at the 4. he had more impact on games from that spot. i checked with 82games.com. opponents PER was lower when he guarded 4's the last 2 years. i think you can start him at the 4 and then bring in more size and move him to the 3 to give teams a different look.

as for hinrich that whole chicago team is coming off a miserable year but his previous numbers do no show that to be indicative of his real game. not to mention from a ppg and apg standpoint his numbers did not suffer all that much. hinrichs hasnt been asked to run all that much with the teams chicago has put out there. but his effectiveness in the half i think bodes well for a team that wants to win not just in the regular season but the playoffs too. you cant win in the playoffs without being effective in the halfcourt. not to mention staying in line with the defense first mantra. i think he gives us solid d at the 1,4,and 5 spots with potential at the 3.

as for ricky davis...well i have no comeback for that lol. buckets is well...buckets 

[bucknersrevenge]

ill definitely take some critiques on my Bucks squad

pg-kirk hinrich(27)
sg-ricky davis(28)
sf-brandon rush(23)
pf-josh smith(22)
c -marcus camby(34)

bench: marreese speights(21)

my own critique that i see thus far is unfortunately a team of 2nd and 3rd bananas at best. unfortunately couldnt get in early enough to draft a star and as such leadership is an issue. however i like the way the defense is shaping up with camby and josh protecting the rim and hinrich and rush on the perimeter as solid defenders. i think speights projects as the next solid post big man. hes got moves in the post. he can hit the midrange shot and can rebound and block a shot. great summer league to begin his career. think he has a bright future.

I think speights could've waiting 2 more rounds. Ricky Davis is a lot like a pot of gold; if you could only reach him there is no telling what you could accomplish. The problem is that much like a fictional pot of gold, no one has ever been able to reach Ricky Davis and turn him into a team player.

thats true. i got put in a tough spot that cost me my ability to draft a more go to guy than him and then made a trade that cost me the guy i wanted ahead of him. despite the fact that ive been a davis fan since his tenure in boston. maybe speights couldve but when i pick came around i surveyed the board and just thought this kid showed a lot of promise in the summer league. cliff ray would like this kid.

probably....Too bad i hired Mr. Ray as big man coach the first or 2nd day...

then i will just have to hire pete newell as a team consultant.

[bucknersrevenge]

Bucks, if you are going to play Smith at the four you need more of a fast break pg than Kirk. My advice would be to get a good defensive four move Smith to the 5, move Kirk to the two and get a good defensive point. Then you have one of the best defenses in the league.

Only one person commented on my team, what do people think? I think at this point I have to compete for the West elite. I have vets at every position and young players who will back up and bring energy.

After realizing that my biggest division competition is the Clippers, I have decided my team is coming out to Aenima by Tool. Great pump up song, and it's about LA being swallowed by the sea ;-).

i definitely plan at some point to grab another pg because hinrichs ability to play both with and without the ball is a trait i like. but when the game is close in the 4th quarter and you need your pg to make a play for you when the game is on the line you want someone that is smart and wont make mistakes. and hinrich knows how to get a shot for someone else and himself.

on the other hand i love your team man. extremely dangerous. i assume you start gordon at the 2 to help spread the floor with his shooting. smart move to get some defense coming in off the bench with bowen. i like nash, godeon, and thornton but theyre gonna keep martin and howard busy rotating on penetration if theyre playing the lions share of minutes so bowen is a solid pickup. id say find you another good pg to back nash up and you may have a winner.

ill be honest. if you had put hinrich on those teams nash had in phoenix i think he wouldve performed just as well. hes that smart a pg. he plays in a halfcourt system but the system doesnt define him as a player.

[zerophase]

mike bibby
raja bell
richard jefferson
paul millsap
elton brand

bibby is a solid pg; he can pass and create for himself. bell is an all defense 2nd team player and can shoot the 3 very well. jefferson is a good scorer- he slashes and shoots well. millsap, granted the weakest of the starting line up, played well on the jazz for limited minutes and is a decent rebounder with good potential. he had some nice career nights the previous season. and well brand is brand. the franchise man. the, "you got branded" stamper. he can do it all. plus with this small lineup, the team can run, run, run, and run some more.

what are your thoughts? obviously i need a bench. scoring seems pretty taken care of. more defensive minded players wouldn't hurt.

i have 2 picks in the 7th so i'm going to build my bench there. i know already who i'm targeting. in my opinion, another steal if he falls that far.

[Big Ticket]

All I can say on my team...  if Amir Johnson pans out the way I think he can (please trade Rasheed, Joe!!) I think I've got a contender for the next 8-10 years.  If not, I'm going to need to make a move to add a solid PF.

[Kwhit10]

C: Chris Wilcox
PF: Carmelo Anthony
SF: Shane Battier
SG: Stephen Jackson
PG: Mo Williams

6th: Andres Nocioni

I know my team is small, but I think they could cause some problems for teams.  I think they'd be able to run fairly well, Capt. Jack and Battier are good defensive players and Wilcox will bang down low, and we have a true #1 in Melo.

[Kwhit10]

Once a trade goes through with the Clippers my team will be:

C: Brendan Haywood
PF: Chris Wilcox
SF: Carmelo Anthony
SG: Ron Artest
PG: Rafer Alston

6th: Shane Battier
7th: Andres Nocioni

The team just got a whole lot bigger shifting everyone down.

[Roy Hobbs]

Once a trade goes through with the Clippers my team will be:

C: Brendan Haywood
PF: Chris Wilcox
SF: Carmelo Anthony
SG: Ron Artest
PG: Rafer Alston

6th: Shane Battier
7th: Andres Nocioni

The team just got a whole lot bigger shifting everyone down.

I like that team much better for you.

You traded Jackson + Williams for Haywood + Artest + Alston?  Not bad.

[celticmaestro]

Once a trade goes through with the Clippers my team will be:

C: Brendan Haywood
PF: Chris Wilcox
SF: Carmelo Anthony
SG: Ron Artest
PG: Rafer Alston

6th: Shane Battier
7th: Andres Nocioni

The team just got a whole lot bigger shifting everyone down.

I like that team much better for you.

You traded Jackson + Williams for Haywood + Artest + Alston?  Not bad.

that's a great trade for you if it goes through.

is it going to go through? where is wdleehi? i also have a trade pending...

[Kwhit10]

I think this trade actually helps both of us out in the end.

[RebusRankin]

Clippers have:

C: ?
PF: Dirk
SF: Jackson
SG: Hamilton
PG: Williams

Bench: Hill

It was a tough trade to make but I feel I strengthened my team at pg and didn't drop off at all (possibly improved it) at sf.