Ainge on Weei this morning 7/22

[CoachCowens]

Anybody know where danny's vacationing... cuz i'm 99% sure i saw him at work today... i work at mcdonalds, and he was in drive thru but by the time i confirmed it was him, he was driving away in a black lexus with mass plates...
oh.. in Alton, NH.. i'm so mad at myself for not at least askin him if he was, indeed, mr ainge....

He said something about San Diego on the show.

[guava_wrench]

Anybody know where danny's vacationing... cuz i'm 99% sure i saw him at work today... i work at mcdonalds, and he was in drive thru but by the time i confirmed it was him, he was driving away in a black lexus with mass plates...
oh.. in Alton, NH.. i'm so mad at myself for not at least askin him if he was, indeed, mr ainge....

He said something about going on a tour of McDonalds in all 50 states.

[Andy Jick]

reminds me of a rick majerus quote: "there are coaches out there that get mcdonald's all-americans to play for them...i get players who worked at mcdonald's"...

(and preparing in advance for backlash / lawsuit - i have the utmost respect for those that work for the clown...)

[Chris]

Anybody know where danny's vacationing... cuz i'm 99% sure i saw him at work today... i work at mcdonalds, and he was in drive thru but by the time i confirmed it was him, he was driving away in a black lexus with mass plates...
oh.. in Alton, NH.. i'm so mad at myself for not at least askin him if he was, indeed, mr ainge....

He said something about San Diego on the show.

It was clearly a smokescreen

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Anybody know where danny's vacationing... cuz i'm 99% sure i saw him at work today... i work at mcdonalds, and he was in drive thru but by the time i confirmed it was him, he was driving away in a black lexus with mass plates...
oh.. in Alton, NH.. i'm so mad at myself for not at least askin him if he was, indeed, mr ainge....

He said something about San Diego on the show.

It was clearly a smokescreen

he's very good at those.

[MaxwellSmart]

My favorite part of the interview was when Danny basically admitted that Doc made a mistake by not using Eddie House early on in the playoffs (which a lot of us were complaining about at the time)...and that Doc finally realized his error and made the adjustment.

[Jon]

My favorite part of the interview was when Danny basically admitted that Doc made a mistake by not using Eddie House early on in the playoffs (which a lot of us were complaining about at the time)...and that Doc finally realized his error and made the adjustment.

The only thing that drives me crazy about that is that that logic ignores the reason Doc benched House in the first place: he's not that good.  He played great in a couple games in the playoffs (game 4 of the Finals comes to mind), but most of the time he was mediocre to poor.  Furthermore, the reason he got minutes was more a testament to how poorly Cassell was playing (the worst I ever saw him play), than a testament to House's ability.  People like to pretend that Cassell stunk up the first half of the playoffs and then Doc "came to his senses," benched him, and House lit it up in the playoffs.  Actually, it went more like this:

Cassell played OK against Atlanta, scoring in double digits in 3 of the Celtics 4 wins.  Cassell continued to play well in the first two wins against Cleveland, scoring 13 and 9 points respectively.  Then he preceded to stink it up for the next 3 games, inspiring Doc to use House to finish off Cleveland.  House did OK in the last two games of the Cleveland series, playing 18 minutes in a Celtic loss in game 6, scoring 8 points; he did rather poorly in the game 7 win, going 1-5 in 15 minutes.  However, despite Cassell's poor play in Cleveland and House's mediocrity, Doc showed his true fear in playing House against a strong defensive team, going back to Cassell in Detroit.  He didn't play well in limited minutes; but neither did House when Doc tried him.  In the NBA Finals, House played reasonably well, but he only played in 4 games, in which the Celtics went 2-2.  Cassell played less minutes, but appeared in 5 games in which the C's went 3-2.  The only game where House really stood out was game 4, when he put up 11 points in the great come from behind victory.  He put up decent stats in game 6, but that was mostly in garbage time. 

Overall, I'm not trying to disparage House too much.  I just think there's a bit of a myth going on right now about how good he was last year.  I think it's of little surprise that Doc only went to him a) after Cassell had a string of rotten games and b) probably most importantly, only against the worst defensive team they saw in the playoffs. 

[crownsy]

My favorite part of the interview was when Danny basically admitted that Doc made a mistake by not using Eddie House early on in the playoffs (which a lot of us were complaining about at the time)...and that Doc finally realized his error and made the adjustment.

The only thing that drives me crazy about that is that that logic ignores the reason Doc benched House in the first place: he's not that good.  He played great in a couple games in the playoffs (game 4 of the Finals comes to mind), but most of the time he was mediocre to poor.  Furthermore, the reason he got minutes was more a testament to how poorly Cassell was playing (the worst I ever saw him play), than a testament to House's ability.  People like to pretend that Cassell stunk up the first half of the playoffs and then Doc "came to his senses," benched him, and House lit it up in the playoffs.  Actually, it went more like this:

Cassell played OK against Atlanta, scoring in double digits in 3 of the Celtics 4 wins.  Cassell continued to play well in the first two wins against Cleveland, scoring 13 and 9 points respectively.  Then he preceded to stink it up for the next 3 games, inspiring Doc to use House to finish off Cleveland.  House did OK in the last two games of the Cleveland series, playing 18 minutes in a Celtic loss in game 6, scoring 8 points; he did rather poorly in the game 7 win, going 1-5 in 15 minutes.  However, despite Cassell's poor play in Cleveland and House's mediocrity, Doc showed his true fear in playing House against a strong defensive team, going back to Cassell in Detroit.  He didn't play well in limited minutes; but neither did House when Doc tried him.  In the NBA Finals, House played reasonably well, but he only played in 4 games, in which the Celtics went 2-2.  Cassell played less minutes, but appeared in 5 games in which the C's went 3-2.  The only game where House really stood out was game 4, when he put up 11 points in the great come from behind victory.  He put up decent stats in game 6, but that was mostly in garbage time. 

Overall, I'm not trying to disparage House too much.  I just think there's a bit of a myth going on right now about how good he was last year.  I think it's of little surprise that Doc only went to him a) after Cassell had a string of rotten games and b) probably most importantly, only against the worst defensive team they saw in the playoffs. 

no, we all know eddie isn't a superstar. that doesn't change the fact that it goes house > a folding chair > sam cassell in terms of usefulness to the team.

not only did sam kill posesions with his horrid offense, he allowed bad driving PG's to look like superstars. (my favroite was when gibson tourched him for 6 points in 2 minutes, though farmer scoring on him 3 succesive times on an iso was also great .)

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My favorite part of the interview was when Danny basically admitted that Doc made a mistake by not using Eddie House early on in the playoffs (which a lot of us were complaining about at the time)...and that Doc finally realized his error and made the adjustment.

The only thing that drives me crazy about that is that that logic ignores the reason Doc benched House in the first place: he's not that good.  He played great in a couple games in the playoffs (game 4 of the Finals comes to mind), but most of the time he was mediocre to poor.  Furthermore, the reason he got minutes was more a testament to how poorly Cassell was playing (the worst I ever saw him play), than a testament to House's ability.  People like to pretend that Cassell stunk up the first half of the playoffs and then Doc "came to his senses," benched him, and House lit it up in the playoffs.  Actually, it went more like this:

Cassell played OK against Atlanta, scoring in double digits in 3 of the Celtics 4 wins.  Cassell continued to play well in the first two wins against Cleveland, scoring 13 and 9 points respectively.  Then he preceded to stink it up for the next 3 games, inspiring Doc to use House to finish off Cleveland.  House did OK in the last two games of the Cleveland series, playing 18 minutes in a Celtic loss in game 6, scoring 8 points; he did rather poorly in the game 7 win, going 1-5 in 15 minutes.  However, despite Cassell's poor play in Cleveland and House's mediocrity, Doc showed his true fear in playing House against a strong defensive team, going back to Cassell in Detroit.  He didn't play well in limited minutes; but neither did House when Doc tried him.  In the NBA Finals, House played reasonably well, but he only played in 4 games, in which the Celtics went 2-2.  Cassell played less minutes, but appeared in 5 games in which the C's went 3-2.  The only game where House really stood out was game 4, when he put up 11 points in the great come from behind victory.  He put up decent stats in game 6, but that was mostly in garbage time. 

Overall, I'm not trying to disparage House too much.  I just think there's a bit of a myth going on right now about how good he was last year.  I think it's of little surprise that Doc only went to him a) after Cassell had a string of rotten games and b) probably most importantly, only against the worst defensive team they saw in the playoffs. 

no, we all know eddie isn't a superstar. that doesn't change the fact that it goes house > a folding chair > sam cassell in terms of usefulness to the team.

not only did sam kill posesions with his horrid offense, he allowed bad driving PG's to look like superstars. (my favroite was when gibson tourched him for 6 points in 2 minutes, though farmer scoring on him 3 succesive times on an iso was also great .)

cassell stunk it up on every road game. granted he was okay vs. atlanta at home, on the road was another story.
home: 14 for 26 54%. road: 3 for 15 20%

he shot 24% from the field vs. the cavs (8 for 33) and he shot 22% against detroit (3 for 13).
cavs: home: 8 for 22 36%. road: 0 for 11 0%
pistons: home: 0 for 0. away: 3 for 13 23%.

and the nba finals?
9 for 24 38%
home: 4 for 11 36%. away: 5 for 13 38%.

cassell = garbage.

[MaxwellSmart]

House brought the energy (and chemistry) back to the team when he was finally allowed to play...THAT is the reason he should have been used instead of Sam....end of discussion.

[Proctology]

House is a useful player who gets along with the team and plays defense a little. You can play him at point a little and put him on the floor when you need spacing or at the end of a game when you need someone who can shoot free throws. This team doesn't need world-beaters on the bench. It just needs guys who aren't net minuses. House has quantifiable skills (shooting, hustle) and that's all you need on this team.

[OhioGreen]

Really psyched for the new season! Bummed--three months away!
Seems like DA is set--and pretty much thought that, as they like to leave that last roster spot open for options down the road.
Think any/all of TA,BBD,POB,Giddens,Walker, and Pruitt could really suprise with their games, or improvements from last year! They are all athletic and have generally good all around talents---and are hungry as reserves. Think our bench could be better than last year, despite losing BGJ!  POB could be the biggest suprise, now that he'll be working extensively with Cliff Ray.(and getting intensity lessons from KG!)Would still like to see a deal with Pacers(as their roster seems to be in flux)for JFoster! Maybe BBD, Scal and a 2nd rounder???  The new season can't get here fast enough! Go C's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[guava_wrench]

My favorite part of the interview was when Danny basically admitted that Doc made a mistake by not using Eddie House early on in the playoffs (which a lot of us were complaining about at the time)...and that Doc finally realized his error and made the adjustment.

The only thing that drives me crazy about that is that that logic ignores the reason Doc benched House in the first place: he's not that good.

It was more they over-valued what they though Cassell could contribute.

Overall, I'm not trying to disparage House too much.  I just think there's a bit of a myth going on right now about how good he was last year.

I agree. The legends of House and Posey are both blown out of proportion. Nevertheless, House was solid all season in his role. Cassell's arrival made a mess of things.

[Jon]

My favorite part of the interview was when Danny basically admitted that Doc made a mistake by not using Eddie House early on in the playoffs (which a lot of us were complaining about at the time)...and that Doc finally realized his error and made the adjustment.

The only thing that drives me crazy about that is that that logic ignores the reason Doc benched House in the first place: he's not that good.  He played great in a couple games in the playoffs (game 4 of the Finals comes to mind), but most of the time he was mediocre to poor.  Furthermore, the reason he got minutes was more a testament to how poorly Cassell was playing (the worst I ever saw him play), than a testament to House's ability.  People like to pretend that Cassell stunk up the first half of the playoffs and then Doc "came to his senses," benched him, and House lit it up in the playoffs.  Actually, it went more like this:

Cassell played OK against Atlanta, scoring in double digits in 3 of the Celtics 4 wins.  Cassell continued to play well in the first two wins against Cleveland, scoring 13 and 9 points respectively.  Then he preceded to stink it up for the next 3 games, inspiring Doc to use House to finish off Cleveland.  House did OK in the last two games of the Cleveland series, playing 18 minutes in a Celtic loss in game 6, scoring 8 points; he did rather poorly in the game 7 win, going 1-5 in 15 minutes.  However, despite Cassell's poor play in Cleveland and House's mediocrity, Doc showed his true fear in playing House against a strong defensive team, going back to Cassell in Detroit.  He didn't play well in limited minutes; but neither did House when Doc tried him.  In the NBA Finals, House played reasonably well, but he only played in 4 games, in which the Celtics went 2-2.  Cassell played less minutes, but appeared in 5 games in which the C's went 3-2.  The only game where House really stood out was game 4, when he put up 11 points in the great come from behind victory.  He put up decent stats in game 6, but that was mostly in garbage time. 

Overall, I'm not trying to disparage House too much.  I just think there's a bit of a myth going on right now about how good he was last year.  I think it's of little surprise that Doc only went to him a) after Cassell had a string of rotten games and b) probably most importantly, only against the worst defensive team they saw in the playoffs. 

no, we all know eddie isn't a superstar. that doesn't change the fact that it goes house > a folding chair > sam cassell in terms of usefulness to the team.

not only did sam kill posesions with his horrid offense, he allowed bad driving PG's to look like superstars. (my favroite was when gibson tourched him for 6 points in 2 minutes, though farmer scoring on him 3 succesive times on an iso was also great .)

cassell stunk it up on every road game. granted he was okay vs. atlanta at home, on the road was another story.
home: 14 for 26 54%. road: 3 for 15 20%

he shot 24% from the field vs. the cavs (8 for 33) and he shot 22% against detroit (3 for 13).
cavs: home: 8 for 22 36%. road: 0 for 11 0%
pistons: home: 0 for 0. away: 3 for 13 23%.

and the nba finals?
9 for 24 38%
home: 4 for 11 36%. away: 5 for 13 38%.

cassell = garbage.

I don't disagree that Cassell played poorly; however, if you want to use that logic, how about this?

House shot 36% from the field in the NBA Finals (in a series some insisted he lit the world on fire) and a whopping 31% from the field during the entire playoffs.  He shot 26% from the field in the Cleveland series when he supposedly rescued us from the horrific play of Sam Cassell. 

My point isn't that House is horrible.  He'd be a heck of a shooting guard to if he was 5 inches taller.  However, he has his flaws and didn't play all that great in the playoffs with the exception of a game or two.  I'm OK with him back this year because I have a ton of confidence in Rondo.  But I don't like this myth that he played great in the playoffs.  He outplayed Cassell, but not by as much as most people want to think. 

[Birdbrain]

Sort of the like the James Posey myth.

Averages 6.3 pts and 3.6 rbs during the playoffs

Shot 31% from 3's and 34% overall vs Detroit although he did comeback to average a whopping 8 pts a game 3 rbs in 25 minutes vs the Fakers.

House and Posey spread the floor even if they aren't shooting very well.