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Re: we CAN replace posey
« Reply #150 on: July 17, 2008, 07:12:34 AM »

Offline TrueGreen

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Posey is a unique player. He can't be replaced. Hopefully we find a player or someone on the roster will step up as a reliable 6th man so we can move on to #18.

Re: we CAN replace posey
« Reply #151 on: July 17, 2008, 07:19:14 AM »

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What does Posey do that we need to replace?  A couple of major things are he plays good defense, can guard 2's, 3's and 4's.  He also has shown he has ice water in his veins as he is willing to take and can make the big shot.

Well then I think the perfect replacement would be our good friend Antoine Walker.  Antoine guards 3's as well as he guards 4's and also as well as he guard's 2's (and as well as he guards 1's and 5's too for that matter).  He also has no conscience when he shoots, so clutch moments won't effect his judgement or shot.  He'll shoot the same way in the first quarter as he would in the end of a nail biter 4th.  So since Antoine can guard all positions equally well, and isn't scared to take big shots (or any shots, from any distance) he sounds like a good fit to replace Posey to me.  ::) ;D

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Re: we CAN replace posey
« Reply #152 on: July 17, 2008, 07:34:53 AM »

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 I'm surprised no one has brought up our brief love affair of last summer (vegas, pre-big 3)..Brandon Wallace! :)
 I for one never saw it, but a lot of folks seemed to think he was the next ron artest, without the 'tude.
 remember how excited we were when they signed him to a rookie deal like in the locker room at halftime of a summer league game?
 he was the flavor of the week, until "the other shoe" dropped and then he was forgotten like a bad memory.
 anyway, i haven't heard about him since. he was supposed to tear up the D-league wasn't he? and he would've been a defensive wing type.
 so if not him, then i guess jackie manuel, right?
 In a way, it's more fun that posey left, makes me nostalgic for last summer. I feel like we're waiting for the other shoe all over again. :)

Re: we CAN replace posey
« Reply #153 on: July 17, 2008, 07:40:28 AM »

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What does Posey do that we need to replace?  A couple of major things are he plays good defense, can guard 2's, 3's and 4's.  He also has shown he has ice water in his veins as he is willing to take and can make the big shot.

Well then I think the perfect replacement would be our good friend Antoine Walker.  Antoine guards 3's as well as he guards 4's and also as well as he guard's 2's (and as well as he guards 1's and 5's too for that matter).  He also has no conscience when he shoots, so clutch moments won't effect his judgement or shot.  He'll shoot the same way in the first quarter as he would in the end of a nail biter 4th.  So since Antoine can guard all positions equally well, and isn't scared to take big shots (or any shots, from any distance) he sounds like a good fit to replace Posey to me.  ::) ;D

I'd love to see Walker back at the vets minimum.

He does have playoff experience and still is a Celtic at heart.

I'm just not sure that C's management feels another go-around with AW would be a good thing...although I do think it will add another dimension to the fan base and a sense of drama to each game.

When will Walker do the wiggle next?!

Re: we CAN replace posey
« Reply #154 on: July 17, 2008, 07:42:31 AM »

Offline GreenPride

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i say bring antione walker in to replace posey.  we know antione can drain the 3's like posey...defense...ah...nevermind about the defense...but why not give antione a shot to give us 15 minutes of gun shooting a game?

Re: Evaluating Replacement Options
« Reply #155 on: July 17, 2008, 07:45:47 AM »

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Posey's ability to guard the 4 in a small lineup will be tough to replace. I think Childress and Gomes are the only ones from this list who could do that. I am guessing Powe and Baby will get more time in such situations. 

I think I'd resign TA, and take another look at Kirk Snyder.

Are there any NBADL/ foreign options? Brandon Wallace? It would be nice if Danny could find a player like Jamario Moon.

Re: we CAN replace posey
« Reply #156 on: July 17, 2008, 07:46:41 AM »

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If we bring back Antoine we do not want him shooting threes, we want him rebounding passing and finishing in the post. The things he does well that do not involve destroying the teams offense. I'd love to bring him back but he's not a replacement for Posey just a guy we can stick at the end of our bench who could be productive but doesn't kill us if he's not.

What we do need to do is bring back TA asap, if we lose out on Posey and then TA we are completely relying on two rookies.
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Re: Evaluating Replacement Options
« Reply #157 on: July 17, 2008, 07:51:07 AM »

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I don't know about you, but I'm excited about next year. Everyone wants more VETS more Leadership, remember we have KG, RAY, PP that's 35 years of  EXPERIENCE. After last season, we can graduate Rondo, Perk, Powe, Baby to VET status.

Posey is NOT replaceable. We'll just upgrade give me some JR add a little Bill > Posey.

Same stuff I heard last season I'm hearing now, so i guess we can raise #18 with #17.


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JR and BW are NOT upgrades over Posey.

They have done nothing in the NBA to warrant such blatant homerism.

Posey would eat these two for lunch and then shoot a cold-blooded 3 pointer infront of their dead mama's graveyards (if they were/are dead) and he wouldn't blink an eye.

Re: we CAN replace posey
« Reply #158 on: July 17, 2008, 07:54:03 AM »

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Antoine Walker as a replacement for Posey? :o

Antoine can't do anything that Posey does.... not anymore.  Can't rebound, can't defend and is a terrible shooter. 
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Re: we CAN replace posey
« Reply #159 on: July 17, 2008, 07:54:39 AM »

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If we bring back Antoine we do not want him shooting threes, we want him rebounding passing and finishing in the post. The things he does well that do not involve destroying the teams offense. I'd love to bring him back but he's not a replacement for Posey just a guy we can stick at the end of our bench who could be productive but doesn't kill us if he's not.

What we do need to do is bring back TA asap, if we lose out on Posey and then TA we are completely relying on two rookies.

Not only two rookies but one with character/motivational issues and another with health issues.

I'm very concerned that these two will be playing major minutes next year.

Re: we CAN replace posey
« Reply #160 on: July 17, 2008, 08:13:50 AM »

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I think Walker, Giddens and Allen will do fine under the guidence of PP and Allen. Forget about Posey the guy is gone he wanted what he wanted, thank you sir and goodbye.

As forthe charachter issues of Giddens and Walker - they certainly had nothing to do with motivation and desire from what I had read - they seem to relate to not being able to control their emotion/desire.

I think they can step in.

I'd rather the MLE be worked into a deal for a veteran Big - in my opinion that is a bigger need than getting posey back was - especially after the draft picks

Re: Evaluating Replacement Options
« Reply #161 on: July 17, 2008, 08:19:28 AM »

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Good list

I don't want Childress. He doesn't provide what I want from the backup on the wings. Poor defender, Poor shooter, no go-to offense. I'm not wild about garbage men on the wings. I also do not think he's worth the MLE, although it wouldn't be too bad because it would be a trade-able contract

I don't want Ryan Gomes. I don't think he's worth the money.

JR Smith is unavailable. I don't believe there's any chance they let him go and they're absolutely right. Smith is more important than Camby.

Bonzi Wells - I like Bonzi. Put him on the shortlist

Ricky Davis - The talent is there but he's a very difficult player to play alongside because you never know what he's going to do on any given night, heck forget any given night you never what he's going to do on any given possession. Too unreliable for my taste. I could live with him but he's definitely not one of my first choices, he needs to prove himself as a reliable player at a non-contender level first.

Matt Barnes - Grossly overrated on this board. Barely an upgrade, ever so slightly and upgrade, on Scal. I too worry about his contributions away from Nellie.

Boki - I like Boki. He'd be alright. Not a frontrunner for the job. He has some offensive talent but is too inconsistent with it, his defense is borderline acceptable but not good. Fall back option.

Mo Evans - Good backup who would do his job well

Kirk Snyder - Buster. Scratch him off the list

Michael Finley - Best days, heck good days, are behind him. Very difficult to watch this past season and he has been struggling ever since he landed in San Antonio. Doesn't play well off the bench either. Scratch him off the list.

Quinton Ross - Another overrated player on this board. He's been a slightly above average defender for the past two seasons, all that promise he showed three years ago has been unfulfilled. Can't do anything offensively, downright liability offensively. He's also stick thin and can't guard bigger forwards at a high enough level. I don't want him.

Darius Miles - Not fit enough to play. That's my stance until I see him on the court for an extended period of time. No way should Danny risk bringing in Miles to be his main veteran on the wings, far too risky.

Tony Allen - One of the best unrestricted free agents on the market. I'd be very happy bringing Tony back. Himself and Bonzi are two similar players in that they can't shoot but can create their offense and give the second unit a go-to option.

Walter Herrmann - I'd be very happy with Herrmann. I haven't seen him defend small forwards enough in the NBA so I don't know what his defense is like there. On power forwards he's very good and perimeter bigs. He's also very athletic. Great shooter. Tough as nails. If the team signs Herrmann they should bring in another wing, a two guard (Tony, Bonzi, Mo), who can defend both guards and small forwards in case Herrmann can't defend them at a high enough level. I'd rather Herrmann than Boki.

Kareem Rush - Restricted but I don't think Bird matches an offer considering what Indy already have on the wings. Good defender, good shooter, good scorer, good teammate. Just a very solid player.

Azubuike - Mully won't match the offer but I wouldn't pay him long term money. Too much is unknown about how good he could actually be. He's only proven himself to be a second backup wing off the bench.

Devean George - Good defender, good shooter, a well rounded player overall. Solid contributor. Can't be a 6th man but a good 8th man.

Okay so I've a shortlist of seven guys I'm comfortable with.

Re: Evaluating Replacement Options
« Reply #162 on: July 17, 2008, 08:21:46 AM »

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JR and BW are NOT upgrades over Posey.

They have done nothing in the NBA to warrant such blatant homerism.

Posey would eat these two for lunch and then shoot a cold-blooded 3 pointer infront of their dead mama's graveyards (if they were/are dead) and he wouldn't blink an eye.

That's easy to see as 60% of Posey's shots were three's last season. He's becoming pretty one dimensional in that sense. Tho I agree JR and BW are definitely not upgrades on Posey ... at least this season.

Re: we CAN replace posey
« Reply #163 on: July 17, 2008, 08:41:23 AM »

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All of you people who are insane enough to consider bringing Antoine "Pass me another pork chop" Walker back to the Celts, I would advise you to get a grip. He is lazy, out of shape, and prone to toss more bricks than a construction worker. Replace Posey w/ Walker???? I repeat, ARE YOU INSANE????? He can't rebound, he has no lateral movement on defense, and oh, by the way,
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Re: we CAN replace posey
« Reply #164 on: July 17, 2008, 08:51:26 AM »

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All of you people who are insane enough to consider bringing Antoine "Pass me another pork chop" Walker back to the Celts, I would advise you to get a grip. He is lazy, out of shape, and prone to toss more bricks than a construction worker. Replace Posey w/ Walker???? I repeat, ARE YOU INSANE????? He can't rebound, he has no lateral movement on defense, and oh, by the way,

just for the record hes not THAT bad rebounding hes just old.
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