How do you hope our 12-man roster looks like come opening day?

[guava_wrench]

I didn't put much thought into that, I agree with you completely I'd rather have Tony running the point than Lue, he has the ability to be great on defense and explosive on offense at times. Maybe after getting one year in on the knee and a little summer rest he'll be back to his old self next season.

Tony is a disaster waiting to happen at the PG position.  Why on earth would you put a guy who doesn't distribute and has high turnover rates at the PG position?   

He's a good ball defender and slasher, but his issues are only amplified at the PG position. 

TA definitely has dribbling issues and, thus, a lot of turnovers, but he was great passing in traffic while taking it to the hoop.

Like Pierce, he is also prone to throwing the ball away when being aggressive and getting stuck with no play.

[bucknersrevenge]

i was thinking about this on a different site. what deal do you offer posey to stay here? his value to this club speaks for itself. so we dont need to go there. i think we all know. that said, considering the investment danny and doc just made on the wings how long do you hold them out? a year? 2? 3? if we believe what danny and doc say giddens could step on the floor right now and get minutes because of his defense. now obviously you dont want to force a major 6th man role down the kids throat as a rookie. but after a year getting comfortable in the system he very well could be ready for substantial minutes. maybe walker after a couple. how many years do you give posey with the understanding hell likely be playing his usual 20 or so min off the bench knowing the following year giddens could cut into those minutes some? and thats even if you play paul and ray less than this past season.

[cordialb]

Rondo House Pruitt
Allen Giddens
Pierce Posey Walker
KG Powe
Perk BBD


This works early on in the year and is very flexible.  It gives playing time to our young guys and allows us to see what we have and our biggest needs. 

- Our most glaring need i would think is to find another defensive minded big (vet preferred) to back up perk so it keeps kg from playing the 5 much.

- If we find a vet PG, or if Pruitt isnt showing much, we move him back to the dleague and insert said vet.  perhaps even cassell. 

- If giddens/walker isnt playing well, house/posey or tony if he is still with us fills the role or we look for a FA. 

This allows us to have max flexibility, while getting a good look at what we have in these young players.  Finding out early in the year if they can contribute and to what extent is a big part of who/what we need.  The backup C position needs to be addressed, but how desperate that is depends on how much or if BBD has improved.  His energy can make up for his lack of height in spots.  Also, not having house with us to be able to play the 1 really hurts us at times too.  Having a gunslinging shooter who is also a smart passer and team player is a tough thing to find.  Having the offense run through pierce/ray while house is in just helps to spread the floor and create impossible matchup situations for the other team.

[MattG12]

I keep reading people suggesting BBD + Tony + Scal for a center.  What team is going to accept that package for any center who isn't overpaid and terrible?  BBD is extraordinarily inconsistent and is still a short power forward with weight issues, Tony is a defensive role player, and Scal has negative trade value.  I can't imagine getting anything at all for that, and otherwise reassonable people make it sound like Danny could turn that into an impact player.  I don't get it.

You can always offer some picks, etc. to a rebuilding team. They get young players in Tony and BBD. BBD is also an expiring contract, small, but he doesn't give a financial burden.  The idea of finding a Center is not really that we find the back-up center we need, but simply a body to add depth, while improving our roster flexibility and hopefully our financial situation just the same.

What about Mikki Moore or Brad Miller in Sacramento? I think Sacramento would be willing to take a look at this, especially if they part ways with Ron Artest.

What about Stomile Swift in the Nets? I think the Nets might take a look at this trade, especially if they are planning to part ways with Vince Carter.

What about Seattle and one of their Centers? I think they have some depth problems in their SG position, they could use Tony.

I don't know, I'm sure various opportunities are around. Anyways, Scal won't make our 12-man roster so we need to find a way to trade him. If we find some capable centers, with Powe in here, BBD becomes more than expendable, and then there's Tony who should facillitate any deal involving those two. At worst, we keep Tony who I think can still help this team in various ways.

Stromile Swift makes a lot of money, it wouldn't be equivalent.

[BudweiserCeltic]

I keep reading people suggesting BBD + Tony + Scal for a center.  What team is going to accept that package for any center who isn't overpaid and terrible?  BBD is extraordinarily inconsistent and is still a short power forward with weight issues, Tony is a defensive role player, and Scal has negative trade value.  I can't imagine getting anything at all for that, and otherwise reassonable people make it sound like Danny could turn that into an impact player.  I don't get it.

You can always offer some picks, etc. to a rebuilding team. They get young players in Tony and BBD. BBD is also an expiring contract, small, but he doesn't give a financial burden.  The idea of finding a Center is not really that we find the back-up center we need, but simply a body to add depth, while improving our roster flexibility and hopefully our financial situation just the same.

What about Mikki Moore or Brad Miller in Sacramento? I think Sacramento would be willing to take a look at this, especially if they part ways with Ron Artest.

What about Stomile Swift in the Nets? I think the Nets might take a look at this trade, especially if they are planning to part ways with Vince Carter.

What about Seattle and one of their Centers? I think they have some depth problems in their SG position, they could use Tony.

I don't know, I'm sure various opportunities are around. Anyways, Scal won't make our 12-man roster so we need to find a way to trade him. If we find some capable centers, with Powe in here, BBD becomes more than expendable, and then there's Tony who should facillitate any deal involving those two. At worst, we keep Tony who I think can still help this team in various ways.

Stromile Swift makes a lot of money, it wouldn't be equivalent.

You mean Brad Miller? Because 6 million is not a lot of money.

[indeedproceed]

I keep reading people suggesting BBD + Tony + Scal for a center.  What team is going to accept that package for any center who isn't overpaid and terrible?  BBD is extraordinarily inconsistent and is still a short power forward with weight issues, Tony is a defensive role player, and Scal has negative trade value.  I can't imagine getting anything at all for that, and otherwise reassonable people make it sound like Danny could turn that into an impact player.  I don't get it.

You can always offer some picks, etc. to a rebuilding team. They get young players in Tony and BBD. BBD is also an expiring contract, small, but he doesn't give a financial burden.  The idea of finding a Center is not really that we find the back-up center we need, but simply a body to add depth, while improving our roster flexibility and hopefully our financial situation just the same.

What about Mikki Moore or Brad Miller in Sacramento? I think Sacramento would be willing to take a look at this, especially if they part ways with Ron Artest.

What about Stomile Swift in the Nets? I think the Nets might take a look at this trade, especially if they are planning to part ways with Vince Carter.

What about Seattle and one of their Centers? I think they have some depth problems in their SG position, they could use Tony.

I don't know, I'm sure various opportunities are around. Anyways, Scal won't make our 12-man roster so we need to find a way to trade him. If we find some capable centers, with Powe in here, BBD becomes more than expendable, and then there's Tony who should facillitate any deal involving those two. At worst, we keep Tony who I think can still help this team in various ways.

Stromile Swift makes a lot of money, it wouldn't be equivalent.

You mean Brad Miller? Because 6 million is not a lot of money.

Six million is a lot of cap space when we have over 56 million invested in 3 players before the season even starts. Six million would re-sign posey.

[BudweiserCeltic]

I keep reading people suggesting BBD + Tony + Scal for a center.  What team is going to accept that package for any center who isn't overpaid and terrible?  BBD is extraordinarily inconsistent and is still a short power forward with weight issues, Tony is a defensive role player, and Scal has negative trade value.  I can't imagine getting anything at all for that, and otherwise reassonable people make it sound like Danny could turn that into an impact player.  I don't get it.

You can always offer some picks, etc. to a rebuilding team. They get young players in Tony and BBD. BBD is also an expiring contract, small, but he doesn't give a financial burden.  The idea of finding a Center is not really that we find the back-up center we need, but simply a body to add depth, while improving our roster flexibility and hopefully our financial situation just the same.

What about Mikki Moore or Brad Miller in Sacramento? I think Sacramento would be willing to take a look at this, especially if they part ways with Ron Artest.

What about Stomile Swift in the Nets? I think the Nets might take a look at this trade, especially if they are planning to part ways with Vince Carter.

What about Seattle and one of their Centers? I think they have some depth problems in their SG position, they could use Tony.

I don't know, I'm sure various opportunities are around. Anyways, Scal won't make our 12-man roster so we need to find a way to trade him. If we find some capable centers, with Powe in here, BBD becomes more than expendable, and then there's Tony who should facillitate any deal involving those two. At worst, we keep Tony who I think can still help this team in various ways.

Stromile Swift makes a lot of money, it wouldn't be equivalent.

You mean Brad Miller? Because 6 million is not a lot of money.

Six million is a lot of cap space when we have over 56 million invested in 3 players before the season even starts. Six million would re-sign posey.

That's not the context. The context is in being able to match salaries to acquire him. Swift is also an expiring contract.

[PRIDE]

Perk
KG
Pierce
Ray
Rondo
6. Posey
7. Powe
8. House
9. FA VET BIG
10. Giddens
11. BBD
12. Pruitt
13. Walker
14. Scal
15. Left open for mid-season pickup.

Rondo/House/Pruitt
Allen/Giddens/House
Pierce/Posey/Walker
KG/Powe/BBD/Scal
Perk/..../BBD

Resign Posey full MLE 3 years.
Sign Eddie House.

PG - Rondo will see most of the minutes at PG. House can handle the bench minutes and let Pierce and Ray Ray take over the offense while he spread the floor. Pruitt should get all of the garbage minutes and hopefully some important minutes to develop so he can be a reliable backup point next season.

SG - Ray Allen should see fewer minutes this season to keep him healthy for the playoffs. Giddens should get a chance to play and House will see some minutes at SG as well as PG.

SF - Pierce, Posey, nuff said.

PF - I expect KG to see a few less minutes this year. Without KG we dont go to the finals. Powe is more than capable of playing extended minutes off the bench even though he wont be used that much. BBD should be able to fill the role as well. Hes a gamer.

C - Perk is a great defender and his offense is coming along as well. He needs help off the bench in case he is hurt or in foul trouble. This issue needs to be addressed through free agency. BBD can play spot minutes as center depending on who is on the floor for the other team.

I hope that FA VET Big man is Zo. Imagine Mourning on this team? Sign Posey QUICK and get him to hook it up. They were teammates in MIA.

[Bankshot]

15 man playoff roster:

PG - Rondo/Jason Wms/House/Pruitt
SG - Allen/TAllen/Giddens (House)
SF - Pierce/Posey/Walker (not Antoine )
PF - Garnett/Powe (Davis & Mourning)
C  - Perkins/Mourning/Davis

I would keep Tony because we have no idea whether Giddens will produce in the NBA yet and I wouldn't want to count on a rookie for anything.

I re-sign House because... I just love the guy and the way he plays with passion. Great energy and instant offense off the bench.

This is somewhat unrealistic in the sense that I have omitted Scal and I have no idea how they can dump him.  I just think it would be peachy if he were gone somehow.  

[Donoghus]

Rondo/House/Pruitt
R. Allen/Giddens
Pierce/Posey/Walker
KG/Powe/BBD/Scals
Perk/FA Big

1 Open Spot

Some versatility with this roster.  Obviously, we need to acquire a big. Put BBD with the PF but he obviously could slide to that backup C position if absolutely necessary.  I'll think we'll find something via free agency.  The other concern I have is our ability to resign House.  I'm not positive that we will but I threw him out there.  If not, looking at another FA pickup there.  Leave an open roster spot for the season in case of a in-season buyout or pickup.

[silvershamrocker]

1 Rondo
2 R. Allen
3 Pierce
4 Garnett
5 Perk
6 Posey
7 FA BIG
8 Powe
9 Giddens
10 BBD
11 House (or another backup point)
12 Pruitt

13 Scal ("injured")
14 Walker (dleague)
15 open


Rondo/House/Pruitt
R. Allen/Giddens/Posey
Pierce/Posey/Walker
Garnett/Powe/BBD
Perk/FA big/BBD or KG

[BudweiserCeltic]

1 Rondo
2 R. Allen
3 Pierce
4 Garnett
5 Perk
6 Posey
7 FA BIG
8 Powe
9 Giddens
10 BBD
11 House (or another backup point)
12 Scal

13 Pruitt (dleague)
14 Walker (dleague)
15 open


Rondo/House/Pruitt
R. Allen/Giddens/Posey
Pierce/Posey/Walker
Garnett/Powe/BBD
Perk/FA big/BBD or KG

I don't like your 12... move Pruitt in and take Scal out and it makes some sense. Scal is redundant in that roster, and he won't help. Pruitt can help in the extremely thin PG situation.

[silvershamrocker]

1 Rondo
2 R. Allen
3 Pierce
4 Garnett
5 Perk
6 Posey
7 FA BIG
8 Powe
9 Giddens
10 BBD
11 House (or another backup point)
12 Scal

13 Pruitt (dleague)
14 Walker (dleague)
15 open


Rondo/House/Pruitt
R. Allen/Giddens/Posey
Pierce/Posey/Walker
Garnett/Powe/BBD
Perk/FA big/BBD or KG

I don't like your 12... move Pruitt in and take Scal out and it makes some sense. Scal is redundant in that roster, and he won't help. Pruitt can help in the extremely thin PG situation.

You're right.  I'll edit it.