Tyronn Lue to the Celtics?

[fairweatherfan06]

What's the problem with Lue.  Slide him in the rotation in between Rondo and Pruitt (with Pruitt getting more minutes if he earns them) and slide eddie to two where he belongs.  He'll still get plenty of minutes because unless we bring in a wing via free agency (which I doubt) we'll be getting one in the draft (much more likely) and he won't likely be ready for major minutes right away.

[bostonfan23]

I'm interested in how we would pay for Lue, whether for the vets min (doubtful) bi-annual, or part of the MLE.

[bucknersrevenge]

Why does everyone seem to think that if the Cs get Lue that Cassell wont be back?  I think if the Cs get Lue that House wont be back because the Cs have had Gabe Pruitt who is a better sg then pg and he bring a little more to the table then Eddie House. If the Cs can get Lue for small money, re-sign Cassell for the short money and they have Pruitt who will be more of a 2 then a 1 for short money it's a win/win for the Cs. 

Eddie House is gone.  I knew he was gone back in the Atlanta series when he had his son wearing a Hawks Jersey and hanging out with the Hawks bench during games.

well if thats not proof nothing is. you DO realize mike bibby is the kids uncle right?? that was probably the jersey he was wearing.

i dont think(and most dont either) that sam will be back regardless. that experiment didnt work. i think the house issue is way overblown but if we do sign lue(who is a great friend of kg's) i guess it is what it is. id rather anthony johnson though if we had to replace house.

[kw10]

I agree with most, Eddie over Tyronne (but I havn't seen much of Lue-so I guess I can't really comment),  but one player I really like and think would be a great fit would be Thabo Sefolosha of the bulls.
I know he's not a FA(not that I know of anyway), but atm it looks like the bulls will draft Rose which means an overload of guards for them, I'm sure DA can work something out for Thabo. Thabo is a big guard, 6'7  if I'm not mistaken, ability to play both guard positions (better at point than Eddie IMHO), so eddie can be the 2 on O and 1 at D just because the size of Thabo-similar to a Thabo/Gordon lineup off the bench.

[crownsy]

imo its been WAY WAY WAY over-dramatized house's ballhandling. its not great but its been passable for the most part and generally when hes in there paul is making the plays which i actually LIKE. when rondos in he should be the playmaker but when hes not i WANT paul facilitating on a short time basis. it keeps him involved and it makes him even more dangerous. eddie keeps the ball moving out there he doesnt take many bad shots out there or stop the flow. hes a game-changer when hes on the floor. he gives energy and hustle. im all set with rondo, eddie and gabe pruitt being our ballhandlers next year.

It made him a huge liablity in the detroit series, nothing about his ball handling skills was over drmatcized. he can't dribble against a good FC PG (like hunter)

that being said, i don't think lue is a good fit for this team. though you have to wonder if both he and sam are convinced they have jobs here next season because both are good friends of KG....

he barely played at all in the detroit series. i think i saw him in part of just one game and thats it. he barely had a chance to be a liability. either way, ray or paul can bring the ball up. set a pick for house. bring the kid in to play next to him and have pruitt bring it up. any of those options would be absolutely fine to me. way too big a deal was made of that to keep him off the floor. his pluses outweigh his minuses in my book. give me these 3 at point with kg, paul or ray facilitating for 10-15 whole min a game. ill take my chances that theyll handle it just fine.

right, he barley played because they knew it would be a problem. kind of a self fulfilling prophecy.

that said, im a huge eddie fan and hope he's resigned.

[Proctology]

I think people on this board are underrating Lue. For what we need him for -- to be a backup or really a third point guard, veteran insurance in case Pruitt can't handle the primary backup job -- he's fine. He takes care of the ball, plays good on-ball D, and hits the open 3. What else do we need? On this team we don't need a creator at the point guard spot. If I'm not mistaken, he has a better career 3-point percentage than House, and he's a much better ballhandler. Negatives are that he's way too small to cover any big point guards straight up, and, well, he's kind of unpleasant-looking. But so what?

I personally think Pruitt is going to be fine as the backup. And for all those people who want Keyon Dooling -- what does Dooling give you that Pruitt won't? They're the same kind of player, aren't they?

[rondofan1255]

I don't know much about Lue. However, I do remember maybe 7 or 8 years ago during 76ers vs. Lakers that he had some "WOW" steals on Allen Iverson, where he just took it full court for a layup at least two times that I can remember. It was awesome.

I saw him in Dallas a few times, and I think he's just OK, but I don't think he's a shoot-first, and that's good enough. He can handle the ball, and he's not bad at defense either like SamIAm is.

[TripleOT]

I'm a fan of Lue.  He's not afraid to take (and make) big shots, and he can run a team better than House and shoot the three slightly better than House (38.9% to 38.3%) over their careers.  Lue's a slightly better defender, and he's surprisingly a better overall FG% shooter, 43.7 to 40.9%.

I'd say objectively that Lue is a slightly better player than House, but considering that House just put in a relatively successful season and made some big plays in the Finals, I don't care either way.  If House is playing a lot of minutes with a SG than can penetrate and break defenses down with the dribble, like Tony Allen earlier in the year, he's way more effective.  He's not at all good a setting the tables for others, but luckily Rajon Rondo should be stretching out his minutes next, year, deemphasizing the role of the backup PG.

[bucknersrevenge]

I'm a fan of Lue.  He's not afraid to take (and make) big shots, and he can run a team better than House and shoot the three slightly better than House (38.9% to 38.3%) over their careers.  Lue's a slightly better defender, and he's surprisingly a better overall FG% shooter, 43.7 to 40.9%.

I'd say objectively that Lue is a slightly better player than House, but considering that House just put in a relatively successful season and made some big plays in the Finals, I don't care either way.  If House is playing a lot of minutes with a SG than can penetrate and break defenses down with the dribble, like Tony Allen earlier in the year, he's way more effective.  He's not at all good a setting the tables for others, but luckily Rajon Rondo should be stretching out his minutes next, year, deemphasizing the role of the backup PG.

the whole ballhandling thing and statwise i understand. but for all the above reasons and more id rather keep him than lue. house is undeniably a game changer as much for his ability to hit shots as it is for his hustle and his just out and out infectious energy. he energizes his team, gets the crowd going. and he knows his role and handles it with class and professionalism even when hes not playing. he "stays ready so that when hes called on he doesn't have to GET ready". snd when he IS called on he makes an impact. thats just a great attitude to have on a team with the kind of stars we have and a great standard to set for our young players. to me thats everything that being a Celtic is about and no stat can tell me that.

[cordobes]

What about salaries? Why isn't nobody talking about salaries? We are in tax hell, salaries are very important. I mean, if House is asking for the LLE or to be resigned with the non-Bird, that's almost $4M/year which the organization must pay. That's an awful lot of money. It's basically the same amount that the combined salaries of Rondo+Pruitt+Min. Salary (Cassell/Lue)+Rookie. Ray Allen is a little bit more expensive.

[lon3lytoaster]

What about salaries? Why isn't nobody talking about salaries? We are in tax hell, salaries are very important. I mean, if House is asking for the LLE or to be resigned with the non-Bird, that's almost $4M/year which the organization must pay. That's an awful lot of money. It's basically the same amount that the combined salaries of Rondo+Pruitt+Min. Salary (Cassell/Lue)+Rookie. Ray Allen is a little bit more expensive.

I don't think Wyc and company are worry about that, and if they aren't worrying about that then C's fans shouldn't worry about that because they're not paying the salaries. If Wyc thinks a player can help us win another championship he's going to sign them. If we can find players this offseason I don't think Wyc would have any problem using all of the MLE and and other exceptions to sign players. He'll sign the checks, as he's already proved.

[Bahku]

I don't care for Lue ... never have. I don't think he's anywhere near the ball player some here are giving him credit for, and he's not remotely the kind of personality that fits with this team, and let's face it, chemistry is a huge part of what made this team so successful this year, and it has to remain a priority. I'd take Eddie over Lue any day.

[wolfceltic215]

Resigning Eddie House and giving minutes to Gabe Pruitt should be what's in the mind of the Cs regarding the point/combo guard position..

[johnnyrondo]

Why does everyone seem to think that if the Cs get Lue that Cassell wont be back?  I think if the Cs get Lue that House wont be back because the Cs have had Gabe Pruitt who is a better sg then pg and he bring a little more to the table then Eddie House. If the Cs can get Lue for small money, re-sign Cassell for the short money and they have Pruitt who will be more of a 2 then a 1 for short money it's a win/win for the Cs. 

Eddie House is gone.  I knew he was gone back in the Atlanta series when he had his son wearing a Hawks Jersey and hanging out with the Hawks bench during games.

well if thats not proof nothing is. you DO realize mike bibby is the kids uncle right?? that was probably the jersey he was wearing.

i dont think(and most dont either) that sam will be back regardless. that experiment didnt work. i think the house issue is way overblown but if we do sign lue(who is a great friend of kg's) i guess it is what it is. id rather anthony johnson though if we had to replace house.

Why does it seem that half the point guards in the league are great friends of KG (Lue, Cassell, Billups, Troy Hudson). Marbury and KG used to  be super tight too, before Marbury got jealous. I think Lue's interest in the C's is probably greater than the C's interest in him. I liked the idea of adding Lue last year, so I'm fine with adding him this yr. I definitely prefer him over Cassell. but if it comes down to House or Lue, I'm going to go with House.

[Last Train]

Eddie - In 2 fewer seasons than Lue - has attempted nearly 250 more 3 point shots than Lue. His sample size is much bigger. I think you are going to get better production beyond the arc from Eddie. Now, if we are talking Lue vs. Sam, I am willing to soften my position on Lue.