If no Posey, Artest?

[dark_lord]

Okay, this whole scenario is rather farfetched and presupposes many things, but hear me out.

James Posey has now won two World Campionships in two different places. he's accomplished his goal in life and his stock as a player probably couldn't get much higher. So if he decides financial security is his number one next step and we can not afford him what do we do?

Well, if Artest opts out, which I know, reports out of Sacramento are that he may not, could we make a run at him. Sure all we have is the MLE but if we address the back up PG with someone like Roger Mason, and draft a big and reup PJ Brown, wouldn't Artest be a nice piece to have.

Granted, we would be relying on the lure of being on a repeat World Championship team and hope Artest would be willing to sacrifice cash for legacy, but considering his past would you do it?

I happen to think that with an established championship core, a strong coach and front office situation, and three superstars that will keep him in order or kill him, it would be a perfect upgrade over Posey.

Think of it as Rodman joining the Bulls. Or even better, DJ joining the Celtics. Bad apples that bettered their teams while at least, to some extent at first with Rodman, calming down their antics for the good of the team.

Or if not, I like Matt Barnes on the cheap and Andris Beadrins in a similar MLE scenario.

weei was discussing this on the dale and holly show, claiming this was max's ideology.

i like artests game and think he is a perfect fit, however, there is no way i want him and risk the chemistry that we have had in the organization from top to bottom.

i pass!

[BudweiserCeltic]

I think Artest in the right situation can be great. He's a heck of a player. I doubt he'd want to come off the bench though.

I'm pretty sure he said at some point in Sacramento that he was willing to come off the bench to let the young guys develop... they had a couple of SF's that were putting good numbers up, and Artest was making way for them. At least he said as much.

[liam]

It'd take a shot at Artest. He should be fine with all the vets we have and a promise of a championship.

[jimmyt]

Okay, this whole scenario is rather farfetched and presupposes many things, but hear me out.

James Posey has now won two World Campionships in two different places. he's accomplished his goal in life and his stock as a player probably couldn't get much higher. So if he decides financial security is his number one next step and we can not afford him what do we do?

Well, if Artest opts out, which I know, reports out of Sacramento are that he may not, could we make a run at him. Sure all we have is the MLE but if we address the back up PG with someone like Roger Mason, and draft a big and reup PJ Brown, wouldn't Artest be a nice piece to have.

Granted, we would be relying on the lure of being on a repeat World Championship team and hope Artest would be willing to sacrifice cash for legacy, but considering his past would you do it?

I happen to think that with an established championship core, a strong coach and front office situation, and three superstars that will keep him in order or kill him, it would be a perfect upgrade over Posey.

Think of it as Rodman joining the Bulls. Or even better, DJ joining the Celtics. Bad apples that bettered their teams while at least, to some extent at first with Rodman, calming down their antics for the good of the team.

Or if not, I like Matt Barnes on the cheap and Andris Beadrins in a similar MLE scenario.

I think you listen to WEEI too much and let it get to your head...


Some guys are able to put the team ahead of themselves, some aren't. Kobe has shown numerous times that he thinks he's bigger than his team. Artest is one of those selfish players who I dont really think cares one way or the other if he wins a championship.

Regardless of if Posey wants more money or not if will be less money than Artest will want.

Oh by the way Artest was part of rock bottom in the NBA when he attacked fans in the stands, something that I will not forgive him for. He is someone that doesn't represent what the Celtics are about and I wouldn't want to cheer for him.

[Triboy16]

I think if posey is out artest could think about signing. He isn't as dedicated on defense as posey (diving for loose balls etc) but he is a heck of a defender nonetheless and i can't imagine him not being able to understand the celts defensive schemes.

he is a better offensive option than posey

at all cost i want posey back but if he leaves and house leaves too then we could give artest the full mle for a year and hope he signs up with us on a longer deal there after.

Man this is great everyone wants to play for us

[fairweatherfan06]

Costs too much, might mess up team chemistry and he'll want to start.  And exactly where would he start?  SG, SF, not likely.

[threzd]

For the awful rep Artest is getting, he's only made one real big mistake in his career - the brawl at the Palace of Auburn Hills, where he had fully calmed down from his argument with Ben Wallace until someone threw a cup of beer at him. Sure, he has some character issues, but he's not as bad as people are saying

[Norcalceltic]

Looks like Artest wants to play for the Lakers. He's never really got a contract that pays him what he is worth. But he is dumb enough to do it.

Listen to the interview he did on LA radio. They were kissing his butt like crazy.


http://www.am570radio.com/pages/podcasting/

[nickagneta]

Okay, this whole scenario is rather farfetched and presupposes many things, but hear me out.

James Posey has now won two World Campionships in two different places. he's accomplished his goal in life and his stock as a player probably couldn't get much higher. So if he decides financial security is his number one next step and we can not afford him what do we do?

Well, if Artest opts out, which I know, reports out of Sacramento are that he may not, could we make a run at him. Sure all we have is the MLE but if we address the back up PG with someone like Roger Mason, and draft a big and reup PJ Brown, wouldn't Artest be a nice piece to have.

Granted, we would be relying on the lure of being on a repeat World Championship team and hope Artest would be willing to sacrifice cash for legacy, but considering his past would you do it?

I happen to think that with an established championship core, a strong coach and front office situation, and three superstars that will keep him in order or kill him, it would be a perfect upgrade over Posey.

Think of it as Rodman joining the Bulls. Or even better, DJ joining the Celtics. Bad apples that bettered their teams while at least, to some extent at first with Rodman, calming down their antics for the good of the team.

Or if not, I like Matt Barnes on the cheap and Andris Beadrins in a similar MLE scenario.

I think you listen to WEEI too much and let it get to your head...

Some guys are able to put the team ahead of themselves, some aren't. Kobe has shown numerous times that he thinks he's bigger than his team. Artest is one of those selfish players who I dont really think cares one way or the other if he wins a championship.

Regardless of if Posey wants more money or not if will be less money than Artest will want.

Oh by the way Artest was part of rock bottom in the NBA when he attacked fans in the stands, something that I will not forgive him for. He is someone that doesn't represent what the Celtics are about and I wouldn't want to cheer for him.

As I said in a previous post I did not hear this on WEEI, and I don't appreciate the insinuation that I'm lying and playing this off as if I am some false intellectual. If you want to make a comment regarding the subject that's fine, but there's no need to take pot shots at me. If you have read this site enough you will find that I have a bit more integrity than that!!

[Who]

Ron Artest is one of the most selfish self important players in the league. He can't even accept being the 2nd option on any of his teams nevermind being the 5th option that Posey was. Artest wouldn't be able to handle having no plays called for him.

No issues with the talent. He's a very good player who's a borderline all-star talent. If he got his head together he'd be very succesful on good teams. I think he'll need to go a team where he's the second or third option instead of the 5th though, because realistically I just can't see him keeping his head in gear with any less touches than that.

[nickagneta]

Looks like Artest wants to play for the Lakers. He's never really got a contract that pays him what he is worth. But he is dumb enough to do it.

Listen to the interview he did on LA radio. They were kissing his butt like crazy.


http://www.am570radio.com/pages/podcasting/

TP4U for the link, it was an interesting listen.

Pretty obvious from the interview that he wouldn't want to come to Boston and definitely wants more than the $8.5 million he's making now. When you get rid of all the basketball washing those talk show guys were spewing, I think you come away that Artest wants to get paid like the man and that he isn't taking less to play for Boston or LA unless there's big money involved.

[Onslaught]

For the awful rep Artest is getting, he's only made one real big mistake in his career - the brawl at the Palace of Auburn Hills, where he had fully calmed down from his argument with Ben Wallace until someone threw a cup of beer at him. Sure, he has some character issues, but he's not as bad as people are saying

One REALLY BIG mistake like that one is more than enough. The guy is poison to a team and when you hear him talk you can tell he's not got much in between his ears.
3 current players I would never accept on the Celtics

J.Kidd
Kobe
Artest

[guava_wrench]

Okay, this whole scenario is rather farfetched and presupposes many things, but hear me out.

James Posey has now won two World Campionships in two different places. he's accomplished his goal in life and his stock as a player probably couldn't get much higher. So if he decides financial security is his number one next step and we can not afford him what do we do?

Well, if Artest opts out, which I know, reports out of Sacramento are that he may not, could we make a run at him. Sure all we have is the MLE but if we address the back up PG with someone like Roger Mason, and draft a big and reup PJ Brown, wouldn't Artest be a nice piece to have.

Granted, we would be relying on the lure of being on a repeat World Championship team and hope Artest would be willing to sacrifice cash for legacy, but considering his past would you do it?

I happen to think that with an established championship core, a strong coach and front office situation, and three superstars that will keep him in order or kill him, it would be a perfect upgrade over Posey.

Think of it as Rodman joining the Bulls. Or even better, DJ joining the Celtics. Bad apples that bettered their teams while at least, to some extent at first with Rodman, calming down their antics for the good of the team.

Or if not, I like Matt Barnes on the cheap and Andris Beadrins in a similar MLE scenario.

Some clown called WEEI suggesting the Artest idea and was laughed off the air.

Why would Artest opt out to earn far less money with us? MLE is way below his pay scale.

[MaxwellSmart]

Artest almost single-handedly Destroyed Larry Bird's Indiana Pacer team....I think Danny learned from that...Let the Lakers have him,and we'll see how long it takes him and Kobe to choke each other to death.

[pearljammer10]

Love the idea but Posey would be cheaper plus would be better chemistry wise because he has played with this team for a full season. Artest would cost more money and who knows how he would mesh with this team. Also like someone else said, i dont think he would be happy coming off the bench.