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Re: If no Posey, Artest?
« Reply #60 on: June 23, 2008, 04:29:06 AM »

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Maybe I can't remember or maybe I have just never payed too much attention to news coming out of northern California, but what exactly has Artest done in Sacramento that shows what a giant cancer he is?

He got there at the end of the Kings good run with Bibby, Peja, and Miller falling out of their prime. In 2007 they lost 11 games more than the year before but came back with 5 more wins this year in a very tough conference.

I'm not saying that Artest isn't a volcano waiting to explode, because he probably is. What I am saying is that his recent behavior, at least from what I can remember or have heard or read about isn't that bad. If he has turned a corner, and that's a gigantic if, is he such a bad option to think about if there is no Posey?

If there is no Posey is a Scal, Allen, Davis and a pick such a bad option in a trade? They got a lot less for Bibby!!


which allen? if its tony, why on earth would sac take on scal's albatross contract and a guy with a history of catstropic injurys and incosistant play, and a bench rookie for ron artest? the 30th pick in the draft? no way they even look at that.

Thats a terrable trade for sac, unless their GM's been drinking, i don't think they take it. its a no risk trade for us, espacially if they don't sign him to an extension, but again this trade is so awful for sac...i don't see how you get them to take it. it would be diffrent if scal's contract was expiring.

as to what he's done, off the top of my head, he's had his commitment to basketball questioned by his owners, cused out an espn reporter, used team interviews to promote his rap label (this has been quashed since year one), and had his commitment to the team questioned by bibby.

other than that and assaulting a fan, he's been a model citizen.


Explain to me exactly how much more they got for Mike Bibby. Sheldon "I've never done anything to warrant being picked 5th" Willimas, the 42nd pick in this year's draft, and 3 absolute scrubs who's contracts expired.

The Kings are still $5-$6 million over the cap after dumping Bibby. They have to dump Kenny Thomas' and Artest's contracts to start getting under the cap. If Allen reup's for the one year offer Sactown gets some more relief at the end of next year and a first round pick. This team needs to start rebuilding. When doing so sometimes you have to take it on the chin in a trade or two to acquire picks.

Dumping Artest now for a first and a second, a serviceable SG that plays defense and may, yes may, rebound from his injury better and produce on a team like the Kings isn't bad for getting rid of $17 million left on Artest's contract. They assume a Tony Allen one year deal and 2 years of $3 million per for Scal. It saves them $7 million, gives them a one year audition to look at Allen and gets them a pick or two.

They got a whole lot less for Bibby. Or maybe their GM was drunk when he made that trade.

Re: If no Posey, Artest?
« Reply #61 on: June 23, 2008, 09:11:08 AM »

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as to what he's done, off the top of my head, he's had his commitment to basketball questioned by his owners, cused out an espn reporter, used team interviews to promote his rap label (this has been quashed since year one), and had his commitment to the team questioned by bibby.

other than that and assaulting a fan, he's been a model citizen.

Eight flagrant fouls in one year (one of them against Paul Pierce on the first play of the game, a blow to the back of the head). Smashing a TV camera. Asking for a month off to promote "his" girl group. Shoving match with an opposing coach. Multiple domestic abuse charges and restraining orders. Animal abuse. Multiple ejections and fines, one for failing to leave the court on an ejection. Broke Michael Jordan's ribs in a pickup game. Refusing to play for his team. Other than that ... well, I'm skipping the rest ...

We don't need him on the Celtics.

Re: If no Posey, Artest?
« Reply #62 on: June 28, 2008, 10:59:19 AM »

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I don`t think that anyone will be sad by this but Artest is heading to Greece


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Re: If no Posey, Artest?
« Reply #63 on: June 28, 2008, 11:23:58 AM »

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I don`t think that anyone will be sad by this but Artest is heading to Greece


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Panathinaikos is very close to agree terms with an NBA legend, a transfer which considers being even bigger name than the one of Dominique Wilkins (204-F-60, college: Georgia Tech) 12 years ago. The player is 32 years of age and has 10 active and productive seasons in the NBA with double digits in points and rebounds. Eurobasket.com, will give o its readers more information very soon.
http://eurobasket.com/GRE/GRE.asp

Artest isn't 32.

Re: If no Posey, Artest?
« Reply #64 on: June 28, 2008, 11:51:42 AM »

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I don`t think that anyone will be sad by this but Artest is heading to Greece


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Panathinaikos is very close to agree terms with an NBA legend, a transfer which considers being even bigger name than the one of Dominique Wilkins (204-F-60, college: Georgia Tech) 12 years ago. The player is 32 years of age and has 10 active and productive seasons in the NBA with double digits in points and rebounds. Eurobasket.com, will give o its readers more information very soon.
http://eurobasket.com/GRE/GRE.asp

Artest isn't 32.
Lot of persistent rumours about Anthony Parker being offered a mega-deal from a Greek team. Seems more likely.

Re: If no Posey, Artest?
« Reply #65 on: June 28, 2008, 12:11:09 PM »

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As for the Artest if no Posey option, no thanks. That guy's a certified team killer. Why do you think he's been bouncing around the league all his career? I have a feeling we'll be seeing him on at least two more teams before he calls it quits (like he never has done this before in his career, see '07-'08 season with the Kings).

Very interesting find you got here. I also don't think this is Artest cause, as mentioned earlier, he's not 32 and he doesn't average double digits in rebounds for his career. I think we're looking for a big man here, possibly a PF or C. As of this writing, I still am in the dark as to who this guy is.

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I don`t think that anyone will be sad by this but Artest is heading to Greece


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Panathinaikos is very close to agree terms with an NBA legend, a transfer which considers being even bigger name than the one of Dominique Wilkins (204-F-60, college: Georgia Tech) 12 years ago. The player is 32 years of age and has 10 active and productive seasons in the NBA with double digits in points and rebounds. Eurobasket.com, will give o its readers more information very soon.
http://eurobasket.com/GRE/GRE.asp

Re: If no Posey, Artest?
« Reply #66 on: June 28, 2008, 12:14:04 PM »

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I don`t think that anyone will be sad by this but Artest is heading to Greece


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Panathinaikos is very close to agree terms with an NBA legend, a transfer which considers being even bigger name than the one of Dominique Wilkins (204-F-60, college: Georgia Tech) 12 years ago. The player is 32 years of age and has 10 active and productive seasons in the NBA with double digits in points and rebounds. Eurobasket.com, will give o its readers more information very soon.
http://eurobasket.com/GRE/GRE.asp

Artest isn't 32.

  He's also a far cry from a double digit rebounder.

Re: If no Posey, Artest?
« Reply #67 on: June 28, 2008, 12:19:16 PM »

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32? Could he be talking about Kevin Garnett or Tim Duncan.  ;D :'(

Maybe Antwan Jamison.

Re: If no Posey, Artest?
« Reply #68 on: June 28, 2008, 12:27:51 PM »

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Lot of persistent rumours about Anthony Parker being offered a mega-deal from a Greek team. Seems more likely.

Different team.

Panathinaikos is linked to Artest (and Delfino)
Olympiacos is interested in Parker offering 4-5 mil Euros ....


You are right about the quote. It`s not about Artest. My bad, i didn`t pay enough attention. But Greek sports radios today keep saying about him.

Re: If no Posey, Artest?
« Reply #69 on: June 28, 2008, 01:09:51 PM »

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Lot of persistent rumours about Anthony Parker being offered a mega-deal from a Greek team. Seems more likely.

Different team.

Panathinaikos is linked to Artest (and Delfino)
Olympiacos is interested in Parker offering 4-5 mil Euros ....


You are right about the quote. It`s not about Artest. My bad, i didn`t pay enough attention. But Greek sports radios today keep saying about him.
Do you know why Anthony Parker is linked so strongly with a move?

He has another year on his contract so he's unavailable. Toronto won't release a starter who's their second best scorer, second best shooter, and their best perimeter defender.

Re: If no Posey, Artest?
« Reply #70 on: June 28, 2008, 02:22:46 PM »

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I didn`t know he has another year. The sports journalism in Greece  has one main focus. Keep the fans happy. So in many occasions we read a lot of BS. Before the Parker roumour Gerald Green wasn in plane flighing to Athens!

I won`t be surprised if in a couple of years Garnet and Duncan (as some said a few posts above) will be "signed" by Greek clubs

Re: If no Posey, Artest?
« Reply #71 on: June 28, 2008, 02:40:44 PM »

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I didn`t know he has another year. The sports journalism in Greece  has one main focus. Keep the fans happy. So in many occasions we read a lot of BS. Before the Parker roumour Gerald Green wasn in plane flighing to Athens!

I won`t be surprised if in a couple of years Garnet and Duncan (as some said a few posts above) will be "signed" by Greek clubs

FYI ... I was being sarcastic.

I could see Stephon Marbury doing it.

Re: If no Posey, Artest?
« Reply #72 on: June 28, 2008, 02:47:43 PM »

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I know :D But a little googling will lead a "journalist" here and he will read your post and write an article "Our American sources informed us that Obradovic has an eye on Garnet"

Re: If no Posey, Artest?
« Reply #73 on: June 28, 2008, 04:01:34 PM »

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Artest is a great player when he wants to be, but he'd cost more than Posey would, so it would make more sense to just resign Posey and not disrupt the team's chemistry.

Re: If no Posey, Artest?
« Reply #74 on: June 28, 2008, 04:04:06 PM »

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unless we want someone to attack Pistons fans (literally), say no to Ron... (not to say it wouldn't be entertaining... Detroit Baske...What the, Ouch!)

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