Celtics free agents

[Mr October]

Sometimes beggars can't be choosers. If all the top level backup 5's are gone. Then all I am saying is that Kwame may be a better FA option then say:

M. Ely
C. Anderson
B. Skinner
T. Ratliff
M. Doleac

Otherwise we're sticking with 6'7" guys as our backup 5s.

I honestly think Kwame's problems are STRONGLY related to his expectations (#1 pick and traded for Caron Butler and Pau Gasol... well his salary was anyway). As a bench scrub, the expectations won't be as high. It would be a gamble, and I don't think the C's will roll those dice. But I am intrigued by the possibility if all other options fail.

[Chris]

Sometimes beggars can't be choosers. If all the top level backup 5's are gone. Then all I am saying is that Kwame may be a better FA option then say:

M. Ely
C. Anderson
B. Skinner
T. Ratliff
M. Doleac

Otherwise we're sticking with 6'7" guys as our backup 5s.

I honestly think Kwame's problems are STRONGLY related to his expectations (#1 pick and traded for Caron Butler and Pau Gasol... well his salary was anyway). As a bench scrub, the expectations won't be as high. It would be a gamble, and I don't think the C's will roll those dice. But I am intrigued by the possibility if all other options fail.

I would definitely take Skinner over Kwame.  Ely and Anderson also might be ahead on the list.

Remember, the C's aren't looking to hit a homerun on that, they just want someone who can step in and be 6 fouls against the few real centers in the league.

[CoachCowens]

I really like Duhon's game but he is kind of a poor mans Rondo. I think this depend on who the C's pick up in the draft. If Chalmers from Kansas falls to the C's. I'd rather have him.

Kwame might be worth a gamble for the right price. Better gamble than Pollard was. Put him with KG and Clifford Ray and he may turn out ok.

Matt Barnes can play the 3 . Would be great addition 

[Mr October]

Remember, the C's aren't looking to hit a homerun on that, they just want someone who can step in and be 6 fouls against the few real centers in the league.

Very true. I would like to see the C's close down the paint a little better when they go to the bench. The opposition gets a heck of a lot more layups when KG and Perkins are sitting. PJ has been a big help in closing it down.

I don't think Skinner is much of an upgrade over Powe/Davis at this point. He's not much taller/bigger either.

Anyway, I hope the C's do hit the jackpot and grab Mourning or Diop! Then the paint would be owned by the C's for 48 minutes! 

[cdif911]

Does anybody think Tony Allen WILL generate much interest around the league?  I mean, I don't like sounding like a hater, but it's his inconsistency this far into his career that scares the hell out of me.  I have a really hard time imagining anyone offering him more than a one-year deal, bring him in, give him some PT, and see if the light finally stays on. 

I thought he'd get a decent bit of interest back in Feb-early-March but he finished the season poorly and now isn't even in the rotation. I think that'll hurt him, and now I'm not sure if he'll get much interest.

That said he should get a lot of interest. I said earlier in the year that I think the Toronto Raptors should sign him. He's exactly what they need, a great penetrator who score on the wing. Plays some good one-on-one perimeter defense. Nice. Tony could help a lot of teams.

Teams should try and sign him. Several teams should take a risk on him because the potential payoff is worth it. Should Boston? Not with Ray and Pierce on board. Not with Posey re-signing. There simply aren't enough minutes to go around.

Tony Allen has the capacity to be a very good player on a very bad team - I think he can score 20+ per night, a la Michael Redd, Bonzi Wells (at various points in his career - not this year) Shareef Abdur Rahim, etc.  I would not be surprised to see him end up with a team like the Griz, the Heat, the Nets, that type of thing on a 1-2 year deal, score a ton, get signed by a contender and become a role player again - the kid can play, but he's not an upper echelon player by any means of the imagination, if I'm him, I follow the money now though, keep my deal short, then really get paid when I break out with a bad team... as they say, someone's gotta score, and the kid is a scorer

[Chris]

Does anybody think Tony Allen WILL generate much interest around the league?  I mean, I don't like sounding like a hater, but it's his inconsistency this far into his career that scares the hell out of me.  I have a really hard time imagining anyone offering him more than a one-year deal, bring him in, give him some PT, and see if the light finally stays on. 

I thought he'd get a decent bit of interest back in Feb-early-March but he finished the season poorly and now isn't even in the rotation. I think that'll hurt him, and now I'm not sure if he'll get much interest.

That said he should get a lot of interest. I said earlier in the year that I think the Toronto Raptors should sign him. He's exactly what they need, a great penetrator who score on the wing. Plays some good one-on-one perimeter defense. Nice. Tony could help a lot of teams.

Teams should try and sign him. Several teams should take a risk on him because the potential payoff is worth it. Should Boston? Not with Ray and Pierce on board. Not with Posey re-signing. There simply aren't enough minutes to go around.

Tony Allen has the capacity to be a very good player on a very bad team - I think he can score 20+ per night, a la Michael Redd, Bonzi Wells (at various points in his career - not this year) Shareef Abdur Rahim, etc.  I would not be surprised to see him end up with a team like the Griz, the Heat, the Nets, that type of thing on a 1-2 year deal, score a ton, get signed by a contender and become a role player again - the kid can play, but he's not an upper echelon player by any means of the imagination, if I'm him, I follow the money now though, keep my deal short, then really get paid when I break out with a bad team... as they say, someone's gotta score, and the kid is a scorer

I agree completely with this.  I really think Allen is one of those guys who can light up the scoreboard if he is allowed to, but just can't play within a team system.

He is not mentally equiped to be a role player, but if a team wants to get their fans excited, he would be a great fit.

I think there is a chance that some team is going to look like a genius next season, or the season after, because Allen is going to come in, and score 17 points per game (with 4 TOs), and really excite the fanbase with his aggressive play...but they aren't actually going to win much more games.

[KungPoweChicken]

I would like to see Mourning entertain celtic offers. I am also interested in Barnes, Grant Hill, and Micheal Finley at the 2/3. But especially Matt Barnes and Grant Hill. At the point, I think Duhon would be a good option.

If we could come out of free agency with Mourning, Barnes, and Duhon we are in really, really good shape.

[Chief]

Sometimes beggars can't be choosers. If all the top level backup 5's are gone. Then all I am saying is that Kwame may be a better FA option then say:

M. Ely
C. Anderson
B. Skinner
T. Ratliff
M. Doleac

Otherwise we're sticking with 6'7" guys as our backup 5s.

I honestly think Kwame's problems are STRONGLY related to his expectations (#1 pick and traded for Caron Butler and Pau Gasol... well his salary was anyway). As a bench scrub, the expectations won't be as high. It would be a gamble, and I don't think the C's will roll those dice. But I am intrigued by the possibility if all other options fail.

I would definitely take Skinner over Kwame.  Ely and Anderson also might be ahead on the list.

Remember, the C's aren't looking to hit a homerun on that, they just want someone who can step in and be 6 fouls against the few real centers in the league.

I've watched Kwame a lot through his career. He is talented. The problem is he is not #1 pick talented. He is more like Perk talented. And definitely more talented than anyone on that list.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Regardless of how talented Kwame is, he's not a lockerroom pressence I want in here. He's also not shown me the work ethic. He's also as dumb as it comes here. Many here want to throw Tony away for his smarts, and you guys are going to consider this guy?

[Chief]

Regardless of how talented Kwame is, he's not a lockerroom pressence I want in here. He's also not shown me the work ethic. He's also as dumb as it comes here. Many here want to throw Tony away for his smarts, and you guys are going to consider this guy?

KG would fix the work ethic.

[Chris]

Sometimes beggars can't be choosers. If all the top level backup 5's are gone. Then all I am saying is that Kwame may be a better FA option then say:

M. Ely
C. Anderson
B. Skinner
T. Ratliff
M. Doleac

Otherwise we're sticking with 6'7" guys as our backup 5s.

I honestly think Kwame's problems are STRONGLY related to his expectations (#1 pick and traded for Caron Butler and Pau Gasol... well his salary was anyway). As a bench scrub, the expectations won't be as high. It would be a gamble, and I don't think the C's will roll those dice. But I am intrigued by the possibility if all other options fail.

I would definitely take Skinner over Kwame.  Ely and Anderson also might be ahead on the list.

Remember, the C's aren't looking to hit a homerun on that, they just want someone who can step in and be 6 fouls against the few real centers in the league.

I've watched Kwame a lot through his career. He is talented. The problem is he is not #1 pick talented. He is more like Perk talented. And definitely more talented than anyone on that list.

I would have agreed with you until last year.  Hell, I was even throwing out trade proposals to bring him in here last year (before the Garnett trade happened).

But he looked completely disinterested last year, and was completely out of shape.  That was the final red flag that it would just be throwing money away.

[Redz]

Given the choice I'd say what Chalmers says "SKINNER"



The dude's a work horse

Kwaeme...not so much

[Mr October]

Regardless of how talented Kwame is, he's not a lockerroom pressence I want in here. He's also not shown me the work ethic. He's also as dumb as it comes here. Many here want to throw Tony away for his smarts, and you guys are going to consider this guy?

The difference between Kwame and Tony is that Kwame wouldn't have the ball in his hands much on offense at all. Again, think Kendrick Perkins.

I've actually heard that he had worked hard in Laker practices, but just mentally rushes things on offense in games. He panics a bit when he posts up. But on defense he is/was solid. I haven't heard anything negative about him off the court either (at least by professional athlete standards).

I don't think Kwame is THE ANSWER. But if other options don't pan out, he could be a decent backup at the 5.

[Mr October]

Sometimes beggars can't be choosers. If all the top level backup 5's are gone. Then all I am saying is that Kwame may be a better FA option then say:

M. Ely
C. Anderson
B. Skinner
T. Ratliff
M. Doleac

Otherwise we're sticking with 6'7" guys as our backup 5s.

I honestly think Kwame's problems are STRONGLY related to his expectations (#1 pick and traded for Caron Butler and Pau Gasol... well his salary was anyway). As a bench scrub, the expectations won't be as high. It would be a gamble, and I don't think the C's will roll those dice. But I am intrigued by the possibility if all other options fail.

I would definitely take Skinner over Kwame.  Ely and Anderson also might be ahead on the list.

Remember, the C's aren't looking to hit a homerun on that, they just want someone who can step in and be 6 fouls against the few real centers in the league.

I've watched Kwame a lot through his career. He is talented. The problem is he is not #1 pick talented. He is more like Perk talented. And definitely more talented than anyone on that list.

I would have agreed with you until last year.  Hell, I was even throwing out trade proposals to bring him in here last year (before the Garnett trade happened).

But he looked completely disinterested last year, and was completely out of shape.  That was the final red flag that it would just be throwing money away.

Phil Jackson likes to have a wiping boy to ride. And Kobe is pretty darn good at pointing fingers and making people feel terrible. This was not the way to get through to Brown.

Playing for Doc (who manages personalities pretty well), and along side the gym rat workhorses on the Celtics could be good for him.

[the_Bird]

Regardless of how talented Kwame is, he's not a lockerroom pressence I want in here. He's also not shown me the work ethic. He's also as dumb as it comes here. Many here want to throw Tony away for his smarts, and you guys are going to consider this guy?

KG would fix the work ethic.

If the fire's not burning inside, you can't light it.  I mean, how much of an impact did KG's presence have on Buckets and Blount up in Minny?  You can't force it.