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Re: Jaylen Traded to PHI for PG, 2 First Round Picks & 2 Second Round Picks
« Reply #540 on: October 21, 2026, 09:06:07 AM »

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I'm curious. When you guys say "alpha", what is the specific definition in your heads? It's a word that gets thrown around in sports, or in organizations, all the time, but what does it mean? Is the alpha the guy that leads the team? Talks the most? Scores the most points? Takes the last shot? Highest usage? Runs the offense? The one who has the most plays run for them, or who features as the apex for most plays? Or "owns" the team (whatever that means).

In your minds, what is the alpha?

#1 player. Best player. Nearly always the first option. The guy who defines your team. How they play.

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I'm curious. When you guys say "alpha", what is the specific definition in your heads? It's a word that gets thrown around in sports, or in organizations, all the time, but what does it mean? Is the alpha the guy that leads the team? Talks the most? Scores the most points? Takes the last shot? Highest usage? Runs the offense? The one who has the most plays run for them, or who features as the apex for most plays? Or "owns" the team (whatever that means).

In your minds, what is the alpha?

#1 player. Best player. Nearly always the first option. The guy who defines your team. How they play.

I see it also as the guy who "takes charge", and who is capable of doing so.

For instance, I think when LeBron went to Miami, there was some role confusion, as LeBron didn't want to step on toes.  In Year Two, he clearly ascended to the lead alpha.
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« Reply #542 on: October 21, 2026, 01:48:17 PM »

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I'm curious. When you guys say "alpha", what is the specific definition in your heads? It's a word that gets thrown around in sports, or in organizations, all the time, but what does it mean? Is the alpha the guy that leads the team? Talks the most? Scores the most points? Takes the last shot? Highest usage? Runs the offense? The one who has the most plays run for them, or who features as the apex for most plays? Or "owns" the team (whatever that means).

In your minds, what is the alpha?

#1 player. Best player. Nearly always the first option. The guy who defines your team. How they play.

I see it also as the guy who "takes charge", and who is capable of doing so.

For instance, I think when LeBron went to Miami, there was some role confusion, as LeBron didn't want to step on toes.  In Year Two, he clearly ascended to the lead alpha.

I'm curious, right now, who here would be willing to trade Tatum straight up for Cade Cunningham? 

And how hard of a decision would that be for you?

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« Reply #543 on: October 21, 2026, 02:22:05 PM »

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The 08 C's big three were all Alphas. Heat's Lebron era big three were all Alphas. So you can have more than one Alpha on a team.

An Alpha is a guy you can go to and have a lot of confidence in. At this point Tatum and JB were probably never that for me. You always feared TOs with JB and clunked step backs with Tatum were coming too often. You really want to feel like your Alpha is a closer. You can also have non-scorers be Alphas, like a TD who was pretty much just a 20 point guy or Kidd who commanded the offense and could hit Fts.

An Alpha should make things happen and make positive plays. They should set a tone and dominate most their match ups. You shouldn't be able to play against one, one on one and feel comfortable you can stop them at the end of the game.

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The 08 C's big three were all Alphas. Heat's Lebron era big three were all Alphas. So you can have more than one Alpha on a team.

An Alpha is a guy you can go to and have a lot of confidence in. At this point Tatum and JB were probably never that for me. You always feared TOs with JB and clunked step backs with Tatum were coming too often. You really want to feel like your Alpha is a closer. You can also have non-scorers be Alphas, like a TD who was pretty much just a 20 point guy or Kidd who commanded the offense and could hit Fts.

An Alpha should make things happen and make positive plays. They should set a tone and dominate most their match ups. You shouldn't be able to play against one, one on one and feel comfortable you can stop them at the end of the game.

pretty well sums it up.  with JB, I found the will to be there but sometimes the skill was not.  with Tatum, I find the skill should be there but the will is not.

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« Reply #545 on: October 21, 2026, 03:24:54 PM »

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The 08 C's big three were all Alphas. Heat's Lebron era big three were all Alphas. So you can have more than one Alpha on a team.

An Alpha is a guy you can go to and have a lot of confidence in. At this point Tatum and JB were probably never that for me. You always feared TOs with JB and clunked step backs with Tatum were coming too often. You really want to feel like your Alpha is a closer. You can also have non-scorers be Alphas, like a TD who was pretty much just a 20 point guy or Kidd who commanded the offense and could hit Fts.

An Alpha should make things happen and make positive plays. They should set a tone and dominate most their match ups. You shouldn't be able to play against one, one on one and feel comfortable you can stop them at the end of the game.

pretty well sums it up.  with JB, I found the will to be there but sometimes the skill was not.  with Tatum, I find the skill should be there but the will is not.
That's an even better summary. TP

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« Reply #546 on: October 21, 2026, 03:31:17 PM »

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The 08 C's big three were all Alphas. Heat's Lebron era big three were all Alphas. So you can have more than one Alpha on a team.

An Alpha is a guy you can go to and have a lot of confidence in. At this point Tatum and JB were probably never that for me. You always feared TOs with JB and clunked step backs with Tatum were coming too often. You really want to feel like your Alpha is a closer. You can also have non-scorers be Alphas, like a TD who was pretty much just a 20 point guy or Kidd who commanded the offense and could hit Fts.

An Alpha should make things happen and make positive plays. They should set a tone and dominate most their match ups. You shouldn't be able to play against one, one on one and feel comfortable you can stop them at the end of the game.

pretty well sums it up.  with JB, I found the will to be there but sometimes the skill was not.  with Tatum, I find the skill should be there but the will is not.

I'd agree with this.


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« Reply #547 on: October 21, 2026, 03:54:05 PM »

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The 08 C's big three were all Alphas. Heat's Lebron era big three were all Alphas. So you can have more than one Alpha on a team.

An Alpha is a guy you can go to and have a lot of confidence in. At this point Tatum and JB were probably never that for me. You always feared TOs with JB and clunked step backs with Tatum were coming too often. You really want to feel like your Alpha is a closer. You can also have non-scorers be Alphas, like a TD who was pretty much just a 20 point guy or Kidd who commanded the offense and could hit Fts.

An Alpha should make things happen and make positive plays. They should set a tone and dominate most their match ups. You shouldn't be able to play against one, one on one and feel comfortable you can stop them at the end of the game.

pretty well sums it up.  with JB, I found the will to be there but sometimes the skill was not.  with Tatum, I find the skill should be there but the will is not.

I'd agree with this.

Yeah - that's probably on target unfortunately.  But there is growth potential even though JT has been around a while.  Not a good start though yesterday.  The ten-footer that he missed near the end was tough to watch - would have brought the deficit to 4 and given the C"s a legit chance.  It was actually a pretty easy, open shot and he clanked it.  It's a shot you should be able to count on him to make.

I love JT and he's enormously talented and he WILL come through in the clutch at times, but Game 1 was not good.

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An alpha leads by example, earning his teammates? trust through his actions. Players rally around him because they believe he can carry them when it matters most. But when he keeps bricking step-back jumpers, whining for calls on every drive, and disappearing in crunch time, that respect starts to fade. And one more thing, an alpha plays to his strengths, not to his weaknesses.

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« Reply #549 on: October 22, 2026, 03:38:16 AM »

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I'm curious, right now, who here would be willing to trade Tatum straight up for Cade Cunningham? 

And how hard of a decision would that be for you?

I'd rate Cade and Tatum about the same level. Given that Cade is a few years younger (Tatum 28 going on 29, Cade just turned 25) and not coming off a serious injury, Cade is the easy choice over Tatum.

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I'm curious, right now, who here would be willing to trade Tatum straight up for Cade Cunningham? 

And how hard of a decision would that be for you?

I'd rate Cade and Tatum about the same level. Given that Cade is a few years younger (Tatum 28 going on 29, Cade just turned 25) and not coming off a serious injury, Cade is the easy choice over Tatum.
Don't know if I'd go along with it being an easy choice but I'd give it some serious consideration.  when he's on, Tatum is the better player although Cade seems to have a bit more of that drive/will to win we're looking for in our top player

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« Reply #552 on: October 22, 2026, 03:27:42 PM »

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I'm curious, right now, who here would be willing to trade Tatum straight up for Cade Cunningham? 

And how hard of a decision would that be for you?

I'd rate Cade and Tatum about the same level. Given that Cade is a few years younger (Tatum 28 going on 29, Cade just turned 25) and not coming off a serious injury, Cade is the easy choice over Tatum.
Don't know if I'd go along with it being an easy choice but I'd give it some serious consideration.  when he's on, Tatum is the better player although Cade seems to have a bit more of that drive/will to win we're looking for in our top player

I like Tatum better at the current time, but Cade is right there.  The thing with Tatum is that he not only is your top scorer, he is your top rebounder too.  That is important.  Can defend PFs too.  Also important.  Allows BOS to play primarily with 1 big.  Cade is coming on though.  There may be a point in the future where he passes Tatum.  But he has not passed him yet, and may not in the near future.

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Tatum dropped a 'sit-down' about his summer on his YouTube channel. Without any buildup, he straightaway opened the video by recalling the moment he found out about the blockbuster deal that sent Jaylen Brown to the Philadelphia 76ers.

"We were in Vegas, I just got done playing pickup," Tatum recalled. "Sham [Shamgod] walked over. He handed me a towel. He's like, 'Yo, put this over your face. Don't react. They just traded him.' I'm like, 'Oh s?! Where?' He said, 'Philly.' You traded him down the street? I was just as caught off guard as the rest of the world."
The exact clip is circulating on Instagram. On one such post, his former co-star publicly challenged the narrative with a single, pointed social media reaction.

Dropping into the comment section, the new 76ers centerpiece posted a solitary blue cap emoji (🧢 ). In no uncertain terms, he called Tatum's comments "cap," implying that Jayson Tatum's claim of being blindsided was not entirely accurate.
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Tatum dropped a 'sit-down' about his summer on his YouTube channel. Without any buildup, he straightaway opened the video by recalling the moment he found out about the blockbuster deal that sent Jaylen Brown to the Philadelphia 76ers.

"We were in Vegas, I just got done playing pickup," Tatum recalled. "Sham [Shamgod] walked over. He handed me a towel. He's like, 'Yo, put this over your face. Don't react. They just traded him.' I'm like, 'Oh s?! Where?' He said, 'Philly.' You traded him down the street? I was just as caught off guard as the rest of the world."
The exact clip is circulating on Instagram. On one such post, his former co-star publicly challenged the narrative with a single, pointed social media reaction.

Dropping into the comment section, the new 76ers centerpiece posted a solitary blue cap emoji (🧢 ). In no uncertain terms, he called Tatum's comments "cap," implying that Jayson Tatum's claim of being blindsided was not entirely accurate.

And people really thought we could salvage that relationship. There was no coming back from last year. Brown has always felt a type of way about Tatum.

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